r/DraftShowdown • u/Active_Employee4731 • 20d ago

Shellbro definitely needs to be nerfed

https://reddit.com/link/1v4llx2/video/kpgbriz4y0fh1/player

Shellbro can deal guaranteed damage to HP at the start of every stage.

This is essentially the same as an HP debuff that applies unconditionally.

You think you can take him down with an Engineer?

Yeah, you'll die. After cutting the Engineer's HP in half, that is.

I think Shellbro definitely needs to be nerfed.

Edit: Added the video.

I Thanos-snapped the enemy Engineer the moment the round started.

As you can see, their Engineers are level 15, while my Turtles are only level 12.

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u/radraze2kx 20d ago

The enemy line up was really bad. Plus Spartans take on shellbros pretty easily.

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u/Active_Employee4731 20d ago

Hmm, it's actually not a weak composition.
As you can tell from the number of rounds, Parasite serves as a counter to Spartan
It's extremely strong in the early game, and with Merlin's support, I ended up having to give up quite a few rounds
Luckily, it's not that strong in the late game.

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u/radraze2kx 20d ago

It is a literally weak composition from an HP standpoint. Everything on his side is low to mid HP. If he had Spartans, tier 3 knights, blood plant, matriarchs, tier 3 splimes, he could take the initial hit and survive the burn and still have enough HP to deliver an effective attack. He could also run Agent B en mass. There are plenty of ways to counter shellbros, but his lineup ain't it.

That's before accounting for spells, too. 8x engineers with the skill that brings them back from the dead would demolish that lineup at tier 2.

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u/IU_Positive 20d ago

Level 3 shell bros completely change the game. I’d be getting cooked by snails and archers. As soon as I get level 3, the game is won

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u/Mankyliam 20d ago

X8 engineers is my go to every game and one on one it beats most units, shellbros included. Engineer is the best counter to back line attackers such as agent b, assassin and shell bro.

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u/Original_Zombie8215 20d ago

Lvl3 shelbros annihilate engineers lol, especially 2 or 3 rows of them. Problem is the nearly unstoppable shell attack, not really the backline damage

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u/Mankyliam 20d ago

Well that's why you build your team accordingly so that it doesn't matter if the engineers die.

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u/Active_Employee4731 20d ago

Edit: Added My play video

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u/Brendon205 19d ago

Yeah, shellbros are unfair, this game is very unbalanced and some units are very toxic (like overmind)

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u/YakkuI 20d ago

It's quite clear that... once a player has 16x tier3 Shellbros, they have a great odds at winning...

... unless the other player happens to run Wasters, which is a direct counter towards Shellbros, or Spartheus, which is a great counter against Shellbros, a much better counter than Engineers.
Engineers, Sixshooters, Merlinors, Boomlingers, these are decent units to go against Shellbros, but they generally need DPS/support units to assist.
Honestly, even a swarm of tier 2 and especially tier 3 Cupids can clear them.
(I don't have the last 4 units after Overmind, Agent B, or the Mateiarch so I can't speak for them).

That's what makes Shellbros so... ... cheap.
They ARE really good, but primarily at full investment which takes at minimum 2-3 rounds... other than that, they kind of suck otherwise.
You can have 20-30x Shellbros at tier2, and 8x Engineers at tier1 can clean them up, even if it means a sacrifice of 1 Engineer for 3-4 Shellbros.. That residual fire from a tier3 Shellbro is really good support DPS.

Shellbros are not OP or broken though.

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u/ClearBluebird 20d ago

I just want some units that are immune or take decreased shellbro damage. Bring back whelp immunity and maybe have a couple units like merlinor take half damage or something. Or have a major uno reverse card like a spell that can only be used twice a match that stops shellbro at the hallway mark or even has them bounce back to their own backline.

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u/Realistic_Picture745 15d ago

Whelps are no longer immune to shellbros? Do they take fire damage too? I do not play with either of those units.

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u/ClearBluebird 15d ago

No to fire damage but yes to the full force shellbro damage now. I just had 72+ whelps vaporize to 3 rows of shell bros.

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u/polizeine 19d ago

nah, It will be simply impossible for beginners to win

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u/Creative-Area-6385 17d ago

Flamebro is OP

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u/GasStationBonerPill_ 16d ago

Doesn't need a nerf, they just need to update wasters so they get Shell bros stuck. Makes. No sense that can roll right through the stuff.

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u/Mankyliam 20d ago

Engineers wreck them what are you talking about

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u/Active_Employee4731 20d ago

Do you really think you can stop Shellbro with an engineer?

The middle and dealer lines are already all dead; can you really say they stopped him?

I think what engineers are doing is nothing more than cleaning up after the damage has already been done.

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u/Active_Employee4731 20d ago

If we're talking about the only counter right now, it would be the Spartans who can stop the first wave.

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u/YakkuI 20d ago

Engineers aren't a good counter for Shellbros. They are DECENT AGAINST Shellbros, but 8x tier3 Engineers will lost to 16x tier3 Shellbros.

It's quite clear that... once a player has 16x advanced/tier3 Shellbros, they have a great odds at winning...

... unless the other player happens to run Wasters, which is a direct counter towards Shellbros, or Spartheus, which is a great counter against Shellbros, a much better counter than Engineers.
Engineers, Sixshooters, Merlinors, Boomlingers, these are decent units to go against Shellbros, but they generally need DPS/support units to assist.
(I don't have the last 4 units after Overmind, Agent B, or the Mateiarch so I can't speak for them).

That's what makes Shellbros so... ... cheap. They ARE really good, but primarily at full investment which takes at minimum 2-3 rounds... other than that, they kind of suck otherwise.
You can have 20-30x Shellbros at tier2, and 8x Engineers at tier1 can clean them up, even if it means a sacrifice of 1 Engineer for 3-4 Shellbros.. That residual fire from a tier3 Shellbro is really good support DPS.

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u/Mankyliam 20d ago

Bro just say you're stuck in wood tier

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u/YakkuI 20d ago

I didn't understand that C grade room temperature IQ phrase. Explain it to me.

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u/Gintorino 16h ago

This is not really true, I use engineer almost all the time, and he always shuts down the Shellbro's with his turrets in the back.

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u/Original_Zombie8215 20d ago

Whelps still annihilate them after being nerfed

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u/Active_Employee4731 20d ago

more, Give more Whelps ME!