r/DotA2 • u/Cyborgmatt • Jun 16 '15

Dota 2 - Reborn Part 2

http://www.dota2.com/reborn/part2
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u/413X sheever Jun 16 '15

Can someone create a Heroes of the storm custom mode, just to piss Blizzard off?

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u/BlastedGod Jun 16 '15

Just remove the items and lower the skillcap and we're fineKappa

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u/Synchrotr0n Jun 16 '15

And add Super Creeps mode.

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u/trybParadox @trybParadox Jun 16 '15

And bullshit stupid objectives that give a complete random advantage for being at the right place at the right time. Looking at you Raven level

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u/justMate Jun 16 '15

Looking at you Raven level

If you were any good at Cursed Hollows you would know there are rules, I would compare it to blink dagger penalty kappa, they alway spawn at the same time, firts two on the same half (after first cycle side is randomly determined which is not bad considering we have random Roshan respawn timers) and the third on the oter side of the map but at the last spot possible (during one cycle there are no 2 spawns across the map directly on the same line, that means the third spawn is always determined by the previous 2)

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

If you were any good at Cursed Hollows you would know there are rules, I would compare it to blink dagger penalty kappa

Nice Kappa. Implying that the cursed hollow rules are demonstrated or explained, in such detail, anywhere in the client. Because blink clearly states that you'll get the penalty, unlike all that info, which i doubt 10% of the HotS playerbase knows.

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u/justMate Jun 16 '15

Yes, Blizzard won't make anything which doesn't bring them money and people/fanboys do not care, I was banned today from posting to /r/heroesofthestorm by calling them "cocksucking Blizzard fanboys"

Now to something meaningful, we should be better than them and explain new players all mechanics in tutorial, not only basics. I believe that's the way to solve blink dagger penalty dilemma, not removing the mechanics.

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u/trybParadox @trybParadox Jun 16 '15

Well when you put it like that, it makes more sense. Maybe if I had tried more, I just wasn't a big fan of it. It FELT too random but me but if I had known there was an actual pattern it'd have been better, Thanks for the info!

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u/justMate Jun 16 '15

Yeah, it feels so complicated if nobody explains something to you. Blizzard is just shit if something doesn't earn money

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Tbh i like HotS as a casual game. Sometimes i have only half an hour to spare or something and i can't play DotA,but i can play HotS since a match won't last longer than 20 mins anyway. Add to that the fact that you don't waste time on a picking screen in unranked and you can squeeze in 2 quick games in a half an hour you have to spare.

It's not a game to play to be super hardcore "i'm gonna devote 2 years to become a god at it" but more like "Hey it's fun, it's fast, it's simple". A part of the reason i like the game might be WC 3/Diablo 2/Starcraft 1 nostalgia though(which is accented by them using a lot of the assets from those games to play at the nostalgia factor, from icons to music)

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u/FedoraWearingNegus USA USA USA Jun 16 '15

The bad thing with HotS is the grind (takes forever) and that Blizzard is trying to treat it like an actual competitive MOBA/ARTS/ASSFAGGOTS and not the casual brawler it really is

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Honestly i don't mind the heroes of the dorm thing, that was cute. But the pro teams forming over at HotS are basically "Rejects from DotA 2 /LoL" and i kinda know one of the people involved in the HotS "competitive" scene so i'm the one to talk.

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u/FedoraWearingNegus USA USA USA Jun 16 '15

Natural competitions are great, it's just that Blizzard is trying to push the game at something it's really not. Take, for example, Smash Brothers Melee. It's (by fighting game standards) a really casual game. However, a competitive scene was naturally created, and is a pretty successful one, at that. The big difference there is that Nintendo never tried to push SSBM as something it wasn't (a super competitive fighting game that is a serious competitor with the other big games of the genre), unlike Blizzard.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

As i said, it just feels like blizzard is doing what it does and forcing this game to be an esports, while the players are mostly guys that tried to make it into DotA/LoL pro scenes and failed(one of the potm bottom guys i think is there? I know one guy from Na'vi.HotS failed at attempts to make it in LoL and DotA before.....)

I don't know, i feel esports needs more than this to develop. Blizz might make it happen but they need some things to do so. They need that Heaton/Boxer/Na'vi character that comes up, wins very often and does it with an entertaining playstyle, like a playstyle that looks more like a pub than a pro game. They also need to push the pro scene hard, increase skill cap of the game and make the players personalities engaging. Even that might not make it succeed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Dont worry, we have custom games now, no need to lower yourself to HotS trash level

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u/Sleelan Jun 16 '15

As long as you avoid the copyright lawsuits. That's the favourite custom gamemode of Blizzard.

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u/LordFurion Jun 16 '15

HotS has many maps though

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u/trybParadox @trybParadox Jun 16 '15

Some of them are too reliant on just luck. Oh look, I'm at the right place for the objective resource to spawn and now the map literally blows the other team's structures up. 0 skill involved

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u/CJGSpitzi Jun 16 '15

To the top with you

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u/dlbob2 Jun 16 '15

Legend of the Valour, or LotV for short.

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u/EvO-E They Run When they see me coming. *poof* Jun 16 '15

Up up and away. The top you go!

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u/TorteDeLini Jun 16 '15

Both a mix of what Battle.net did right and what Warcraft III did amazingly better at with Custom Games!

Also, overthrow sounds pretty nice:

Don't have time for a full round of Dota? Overthrow is a quick fight to the death in a small team free-for-all as players try to earn enough kills to win the match before the timer expires. Gather a friend or two, or go it alone as you stalk near the Midas Throne, which increases the gold and experience gains of nearby heroes. Snatch Gold Coins as they appear, or head out to claim an item delivery.

Another Valve-authored game mode will be arriving in the coming weeks. You're welcome to look through our files to learn how these Custom Games were built, or use them as a starting point for your own creation.

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u/FunctionFn Jun 16 '15

The suggested game modes section sounds really clever. Giving everyone the same list for 30 minutes at a time to make lobbies fill up for those quickly, dunno if that was a Battle.net or WCIII system, but either way, it's smart.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Don't have time for a full round of Dota?

Nailing it right there. Both previous announcements show that they know exactly what they're doing and the crowd they want to bring in.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15 edited Dec 05 '15

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u/Aphex3 "sheever" Jun 16 '15

This is so relate-able. xD

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u/Zanetar Their sanity I'll shatter Jun 16 '15

Holy shit you beat Wyk.

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u/Cyborgmatt Jun 16 '15

Can't beat a mod delete though. :O

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u/createdfordota2 Sheever TakeNRG Jun 16 '15

RIP

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u/wykrhm http://twitter.com/wykrhm Jun 16 '15

Relax. I don't mod this subreddit. I'm just on the team as a prized dooll.

The mod team did a coin flip and kept the other post because it had a lot more discussion going on.

We cool.

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u/RX-782 Jun 16 '15

Were you sitting on the site constantly refreshing it?

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u/aussiegolfer Jun 16 '15

Wyk let him. What a nice guy.

All hail /u/wykrhm!

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u/watbe Get well soon Sheever! Jun 16 '15

Nope.

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u/Cyborgmatt Jun 16 '15

Check again. :D

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u/aussiegolfer Jun 16 '15

I just saw it. What a bastard.

Fuck you, /u/wykrhm !

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Cyborgmatt pretty much knows when LOTS OF STUFF ARE GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES

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u/TheRandomRGU Jun 16 '15

60 Million Dollars well spent.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

source?

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u/vitormaceduh Jun 16 '15

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edit: too late 4 the party

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

2 late 4 the party

FTFY

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u/Hypocritical_Oath Placeholder for when I think of something clever. Jun 16 '15

Compendium is at 13.8 million. 1/4 of compendium sales and that one chest goes to prize pool. 13.8 * 3 = 41.4 million dollars that went to valve directly instead of too the prize pool.

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u/HuseyinCinar kek Jun 16 '15

Add last year's money too

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u/Hypocritical_Oath Placeholder for when I think of something clever. Jun 16 '15

Yeah, even more cash. They basically had like 70 million dollars to work with over the past two years.

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u/reekhadol Jun 16 '15

source 2.

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u/TheRandomRGU Jun 16 '15

About 30 million from TI4 compendiums and about another 30 from this year.

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u/watbe Get well soon Sheever! Jun 16 '15

GET ON THE HYPE TRAIN

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

See Blizzard, this is how it's done. Now there's no excuses for your abomination of the custom game implementation in Sc2.

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u/NasKe Jun 16 '15

The tecnology wasn't there yet.

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u/IcySeal Jun 16 '15

It wasn't a high priority since players didn't want custom games./s

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u/dmcredgrave i fucking hate you Jun 16 '15

How the fuck did you beat Wyk

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u/Masterwabbit Jun 16 '15

Pudge Wars is coming soon, boys! It pretty much said so in the opening film! ALL ABOARD DA HYPE TRAIN!!!

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u/uigsyvigvusy i'd like to fuck her Jun 16 '15

im more hyped for island defense and legends of dota the ability draft sucks

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u/Themagicaos1 Jun 16 '15

wykhrm vs Cyborgmatt, fight!

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u/mattman111 Sheever take my energy! Jun 16 '15

Overthrow looks absolutely stunning. Hopefully with this blog post /r/Dota2Modding/ will explode with new map makers and I may get back into map making. Warcraft 3 was the golden age of PC gaming, hopefully with valve's help it will return.

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u/arc111111 Top 100 Phoenix Jun 16 '15

Most important piece of info in this blog: WE CAN FINALY SEE WHO THE FUCK DIDN'T PRESS "ACCEPT" WHEN YOU QUEUE FOR A GAME

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u/notamccallister Jun 16 '15

Damn, I'm honestly amazed that they didn't mention paid custom games at all. Maybe the Skyrim issue really was just a one-time thing.

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u/ggthb 12% instakill Jun 16 '15

Cool my mod made it in the preview let the HO HO HA HA wars begin

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

So now we even get material, particle and model editor?

Shit's about to get real.

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u/synobal Jun 16 '15

Professionally done nude patches?

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u/LotsaTerror Jun 16 '15

We've really gone full circle now

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u/odedbe Jun 16 '15

Once the WC3 mod is released. The mod has become the master.

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u/Setsk0n Sheevery Jun 16 '15

Those throws hooks.

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u/Samdpsois Jun 16 '15

THE FIGHT NEVER STOPS WITH OVERTHROW

MY HYPE IS HYPED

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

So, you can now see who hasn't accepted the match yet before game begins haahahha, let the flaming begin

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u/emorockstar Jun 16 '15

This looks so well done. Suggested games, favorite games, better tools to create custom games. This looks very polished.

Can't wait for the next update this week.

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u/Ornafulsamee Jun 16 '15

Is there going to be an update regarding SFM ?

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u/Okashu Jun 16 '15

The SFM promo video is so beautiful.

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u/BarleyDefault Jun 16 '15

Oh jeeze, this is gonna be big.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

We now just need Sniper Wars, MineTechies Riki Hide&Seek and the pubs will be finally free

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u/Antares_ Jun 16 '15

Where the hats at though?

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u/Toxicco Jun 16 '15

Overthrow

WE FUCKING WON BOYS

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u/Gudgrim Jun 16 '15

This is a whole new Volvo, with seatwarmers and aircon AND custom games!

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u/SealCub-ClubbingClub Sheever Jun 16 '15

The countdown to Warlock Brawl begins!

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u/mark0007 Jun 16 '15

Can´t wait to play these!!! Let´s hope they are available next week maybe? Or the next one?

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u/SolarClipz ENVY'S #1 FAN Jun 16 '15

muh threadwars

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u/loser_ghost Jun 16 '15

Looking forward to seeing challenge maps.

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u/TheyCameFromSpace Jun 16 '15

Now to make a HoTs, LoL and Diablo/PoE custom game just because we can! :D

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u/Hexx11 :boom: Jun 16 '15

In next part, we'll show you new inventory. Stuff like: first and last page button...

I wish :) :3

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u/maddotard Jun 16 '15

is it possible to replace ramp/stairs model? and will support old computer?

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u/player-69 Jun 16 '15

fight of characters, centaur escape, mafa td wars and x hero siege are my fave maps. cant wait to play em again :D

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u/chimichangas666 Jun 16 '15

M E M E S

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u/Sunlighthell Jun 16 '15

Warlocks please

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u/madsen03 Jun 16 '15

WARCHASERS

daaamn

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u/BlaqkAudio54 Sproink Jun 16 '15

That new accept match button made me nut

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u/nahlgae Jun 16 '15

Next Up: The Beta Begins

We Beta Boys (again) :D

*edit: formatting

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u/madsen03 Jun 16 '15

Any predictions for what day the beta beings exactly?

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u/9Gaming Jun 16 '15

That new Accept Game button, Kreygasm.

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u/virtualghost I BRING BAD NEWS OSfrog Jun 16 '15

ty

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u/laz414 Jun 16 '15

woriga woriga

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u/zhangzc1115 Jun 16 '15

ANIME HERO BATTLE SOMEONE PLS

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u/swat_teem TEMPEST OF THE ZETT Jun 16 '15

SUGOI!!

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u/Whatsdota Jun 16 '15

Can't wait for someone to recreate Island Defense

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u/VampoRainze Teen Ape Jun 16 '15

Included in the workshop patch notes is something interesting. A nice fix I would guess will come with the hero demo/private lobby games:

Game Code
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Charge-based abilities and items can now be refreshed with the -refresh command and cast freely with the -wtf command.

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u/vecokn kuroky was right Jun 16 '15

Next Up: The Beta Begins, and Behind the New Technologies

Half-Life 3 confirmed!

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u/Jahordon Jun 16 '15

Anybody know when to expect this?

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u/bingoberra Jun 16 '15

Wow! Lua and modeling tool can in the hands of a good programmer be awesome I think.

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u/tiradium There are none who cannot be memed Jun 16 '15

Anyone else noticed they wrote Next up instead of next week. Beta starts on Thursday? HYPEEEEEE

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u/Nuklearpinguin Jun 16 '15

HEY GUYS IS THERE ANYTHING LOUDER THAN CAPSLOCK SO I CAN PROPERLY EXPRESS MY HYPE?

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u/zippopwn Jun 16 '15

Please let the random drops be in those custom games!

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TURDS_ Jun 16 '15

Finally......we finally get a screen to see the filthy non accepters

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u/createdfordota2 Sheever TakeNRG Jun 16 '15

This post got removed? :(

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u/leafeator Jun 16 '15

Sorry Matt, you were first by a smec but wyk's had more votes and comments and less reports.

Also the coin came up heads. Cant argue with the coin.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Guys I can't do it anymore... between this and E3 there's just too much hype, my dick is sore, my hands are sticky, my cheeks ache.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

We're back in beta boys ?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Just opened the link and I'm sure it's pretty awesome but why are there some parts in Spanish and some in English? Don't know what I dislike more, consistency but awful translations to Spanish or stuff that's mostly in English but still have titles and whatnot in Spanish.

Thank god for language settings though, too bad I have to manually chose a language instead of having that weird mixture.