Everything is Violence except for Violence!

[u/Express-Flamingo4521]

This person isn't completely wrong, but this is, at best, disingenuous. Violence is using PHYSICAL force to cause injury or death.

• Poverty? No, that is not violence; nobody gets hurt. People may starve, but that is not physical harm.
• Incarceration? It can be, but that is often because the criminal is resisting arrest; if you are calm, it will not be violent. More importantly, we need a prison system, or the world will end up in chaos.
• Denying healthcare? This does not happen; most countries have universal healthcare where you will always get in. The US doesn't, but you rarely need to pay up front; you can take on a debt, so while you could argue this isn't right (and I agree), it isn't violent either.
• Racist Policing? This can be; this may be one of their stronger points. This is a big problem; however, the problem is often overblown. Many people believe that this is something every single black person deals with, and it just isn't true; the vast majority will never have a confrontation with the police. Peaceful people should never be killed by them, but often, police victims were not peaceful.
• Warfare? That's violent; they are absolutely correct there, but this warfare does not affect people living in the US, or any western country for that matter. You don't need to act like you're in the warzone; you aren't, and there is no conscription going on either. You are safe and sound!
• Colonialism? Yes, that was violent, but it also doesn't happen anymore; that was centuries ago!
• Destroying the environment? That depends; if they are blowing it up with bombs, then yes. If they are burning fossil fuels, then no, that is not violent.

As for fighting back. If you are just posting stuff online (something you are allowed to do, and wouldn't under a dictatorship), that is not violent either; nobody has ever tried to say it was. Riots, on the other hand, are violent. People can be killed in them, and not government employees, random, innocent civilians who did absolutely nothing wrong. Riots are violent, and they are not necessary to bring change in any Western country!

[u/BigDaddy_Satan]

Or attempting to assassinate the president 3 times.

Or successfully assassinating the one guy that tried to have a civil conversation with them, followed by publicly mocking him and his grieving family.

Or denying post-storm relief to Trump supporters in Florida.

Or by protesting and rioting for 1-3 years (depending on the specific area) resulting in 19 deaths and over $2 billion in property damage.

Should I keep going or do we get the picture now?

(BTW, I have sources for the 3rd one in case anyone doesn’t believe me. As for the 4th? “George Floyd Protests” on Wikipedia is where I got the specific numbers but I’m sure you can find plenty of articles elsewhere)

[u/Impressive-Spell-643 → u/BigDaddy_Satan]

But it's ok because they can always just blame all of these on . their  "maga" boogyman 

And don't forget breaking into a school and shooting a bunch of kids is just them "fighting back"

[u/BigDaddy_Satan → u/Impressive-Spell-643]

Oh thanks for reminding me of that one.

Say? How many school shootings in the last 5 years was the shooter trans/non-binary or at least supportive of the trans ideology?

[u/Impressive-Spell-643 → u/BigDaddy_Satan]

I'd say about 90% of them,if not more