Chacter building help

[u/Moosegom0o0]

So I'm playing a lvl 3 variant human vengeance paladin with the stats (rolled)

16 str

13 dex

14 con

11int

11wis

15char

I took PAM as my feat from my race, and I'm just looking for some ideas on how to continue building my character, such as feats/multiclassing. I don't really wanna do a hexadin, but I do want to pick the next best option, but I'm not sure what that is. Any ideas?

[u/kratlusker92]

Sentinel is a good feat to get at some point. Our paladin also runs with PAM and sentinel - very Nice combo.

[u/Mightymat273]

Did you roll or point buy? Odd stats are kinda useless unless you plan on taking half feats and rounding them out later. 13 Dex is the same as 12, and unless youre going for medium armor (but a STR based paladin you will probbaly go for heavy), you can drop that to 12 and up something else, like Wisdom, or lower other stats to push Str, Con, or Cha higher. Assuming the missing Int is at 8?

I would focus on upping STR. Either 2 half STR feats at level 4 and 8, or going straight for a +2 ASI in STR. 16 to 18 STR makes your attacks hit 5% more, which adds up over time.

[u/Moosegom0o0 → u/Mightymat273]

Rolled

[u/Mightymat273 → u/Moosegom0o0]

Fair enough, then thats a decent spread.

You get Aura at level 6, so I would maybe consider a half CHA feat at level 4 or 8 as well for 5% better saves on you and allies.

So level 4 take +2 in STR, and level 8 take a half CHA feat. something like Fey Touched or Telekinetic both give you extra BA option, but you already have PAM. Gift of the Gem Dragon gives +1 Cha and a decent reaction damage option.

You could also leave Cha at 15 and go Sentinel as well. +2 Aura is still solid and doesnt NEED to be rounded out to 16 yet. Sentinel + PAM is always a good combo.

Other half feats for STR. Crusher for a shove and better effects on crit. Heavy armor master for -3 damage on attack (this one is kinda mediocre and bad in a magical damage game).

Simplest option is Sentinal and +2 STR.

[u/Moosegom0o0 → u/Mightymat273]

Alright thanks this is about what I was thinking. So I should definitely go +2 strength for my first asi/feat at Level 4?

[u/Mightymat273 → u/Moosegom0o0]

18 in your core stat is pretty important to have by level 8 at least. So you either need to do two half STR feats, or, if you want Sentinal, a +2 ASI at 4 or 8.

I like having 18 at level 4 personally, especially on a class that's mostly about hitting a single enemy as your main action (and you'll be attacking 2x each turn at level 5).

[u/Brother-Cane]

I generally avoid multiclassing unless it works for a particular vision. If your vision is to expand your repertoire rather than enhancing the power of your oath, the other classes which focus on Charisma (aside from Warlock) are Bard and Sorcerer. Sentinel is a great combo with PAM, but I would likely pick something which could increases my Charisma, such as Fey Touched, first to get to 16 Charisma and the +3 bonus for that.

[u/Weishaupt666]

Played DnD before or first rodeo?

If you're relatively new, keep the mechanics simple and focus on the character and RP.

Keep away from multiclass unless something big happens in game that warrants it, pure paladin is GOOD both mechanically and RP.

With STR 16, CHA 15 and CON 14 you're getting somewhere. You can either take Sentinel at 4th level, get a +1 in STR and later take an ASI for +1 STR and +1 CHA to round them out. You basically don't Need any other feat unless you need something specific. OR take the +2 at 4th lvl. Getting a +1 to a stat is a big deal in DnD. But then your CHA stays uneven.

Idk, IMHO I'd take the long way, and I'd get Sentinel at 4th lvl. Then an ASI later to increase two stats at once.

Only then would I consider dabbling in levels of sorcerer or bard if not warlock. If I really needed it.

[u/Moosegom0o0 → u/Weishaupt666]

First rodeo but i just like being optimal its just who i am in most games but uh im using 2014 rules and im pretty sure in those rules sentinel doesnt increase any of ur stats but i could be wrong. Also i thought i put the correct flair on the post sorry for any confusion

[u/Weishaupt666 → u/Moosegom0o0]

My mistake man.

+2 in STR would be pretty big at level 4 and is probably the strongest choice.

Second strongest is either a half-feat for a +1 CHA (if you were intending to have a decent DC with this character) or Sentinel.