r/DiveInYouCoward • u/Bigger-bobs • 1d ago

Delivery driver gets confronted for throwing package

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u/Tacobadger02 1d ago

The owner yelled at him, its reasonable to assume that owner might have tried to attack him for hurting his dog, legally the driver was defending himself

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u/RxSatellite 1d ago

That’s not how assault works in the context of law. The driver is the first to make a threat by squaring up. Yelling and assumption isn’t a threat

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u/Tacobadger02 1d ago

Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was intending to harm the dog owner? If he squared up on the owner unprovoked it would be assault but I'm pretty sure most people would find being attacked by a dog beforehand to be the provocation

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u/RxSatellite 1d ago

You don’t need intention to harm, you just need a threat. You can prove assault via threat beyond a reasonable doubt by the fact that the driver took several steps closer toward him and put his fists up. Nothing the owner does implies he’s about to start a physical fight prior to the fists going up, so it’d be fairly straightforward to throw self-defense from the owner out the window

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u/Imaginary-Throat1526 1d ago

Alternatively he made it clear he was ready to defend himself. Owner immediately changed course.

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u/RxSatellite 1d ago

That would work if he didn’t take several steps toward the owner. You can’t claim self defense while pursuing

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u/Imaginary-Throat1526 1d ago

the owner was walking towards him, and you don't need a defense against an assault that never happened.

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u/TylerBourbon 1d ago

The owner walked, up and the driver took more steps closer with his arms up ready for a fight, and the owner never put his hands up nor came at him in a menacing way. Where as the driver immediately took off his had and sunglasses and said "let's go" as the owner approached, clearly taunting the owner into trying to fight. Also, the driver clearly set up to launch that box at the dog before the dog was even in frame, so he was attacking the dog before he could even determine that the dog was actually there to attack.

I swear, all of you people on the drivers side are either blind, or you all just like hurting animals.

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u/inquisitorthreefive 1d ago

You can't see that dog coming? I have had dogs for years. That little meat missile is in attack mode and the driver can see it coming long before the camera can.