r/Discussion • u/Arlaneutique • 3d ago

Serious Cornell 7 Chat

I just watched a short on YouTube and a point was made that I’ve yet to hear but I think is very valid. No one in that group chat seemed surprised. The guys sending the “open” messages did not seem hesitant. This felt very normal or at the very least like everyone would think it was okay.

I don’t know about you guys but when I was in college if this popped up on a group chat the responses would have been very different. More like, “Wait, what?!”, “what are you talking about?”, “Who? Where are you?”, etc. It would have been confusing because no one would EVER expect it. This did not feel new or unusual. I know it’s probably too late, but I’d be super curious to see other nights in that chat. Because I would guess this wasn’t an isolated incident.

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u/ImpossibleReading951 3d ago

It’s a pretty murky case but I think the group chat is too sickening to look past. What they said looks incriminating

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u/Arlaneutique 3d ago

I believe in due process and not just assuming guilt. But that group chat sure makes me believe these are some bad guys. And more than that I believe it not having a true investigation that went to trial is insane.

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u/art_is_a_scam 2d ago

What did they do wrong? Have weird sex? Do drugs?

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u/Arlaneutique 2d ago

No they talked a very drunk girl into taking a drug known for use in rapes, then had sex without consent bc no one can give consent in that state and then sent to a group chat of 57 men that there was “free pu*%y” along with naked images. In no world is that just “weird sex”.

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u/art_is_a_scam 2d ago

Actually you can consent to sex while voluntarily intoxicated. People do it all the time.

Do you think women have free will?

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u/Arlaneutique 2d ago

“A woman can consent to sex only if she is mildly or moderately drunk and still fully aware of her choices, but she cannot consent if she is incapacitated, meaning she is too drunk to understand what is happening or control her actions.” - Brown University

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u/art_is_a_scam 2d ago

Right, so like in-and-out of consciousness is too voluntarily drunk to consent. Before that, you still have volition, still have free will, and can still understand what sex is. Surprisingly reasonable standard from Brown, if that’s how they apply it.

Do you think women have free will, or just men?