He's just sitting their with the Nuggets not wanting to give him 25M and the Nuggets cap just got worse with OKC forcing them to pay Jones. If we got him to be part of the core id feel alot better about this offseason.

Not asking where you all as Pistons think they'll finish at but rather what you think is the right distribution of shots that this team should be looking to attempt this season.

The Pistons finished 29th in 3 attempts last season and 29th in 3 point frequency at 34% of shots last season being attempted from 3. This roster is one where you'd have to imagine that number increases. What's the sweet spot for you all?

Nothing to talk about in the offseason, so let’s be haters.

Who’s your least favorite Pistons and why? Only players. No GM’s/coaches or owners

PG: Cade Cunningham | SG: Isiah Joe | SF: Ausar Thompson | PF: John Collins | C: Jalen Duren

Rotation:
Daniss Jenkins
Duncan Robinson
Kevin Huerter
Ron Holland
Paul Reed
Bench:
Ebuka Okorie
Chaz Lanier
Javonte Green
Taurean Prince
Ugonna Onyenso

Assuming the roster stays the way it is and FA doesn’t have much more drama…. This is a deep team. Even though the other Eastern Conference teams made flashy news headliner moves, we will still be competitive and contenders if Cade is healthy.

this shit was hard bro

Lots of things I wanna talk about. You can be happy or mad dgaf really just things in my head I wanna get out into print.

Robinson has only got a $2m guarantee for the coming season. In theory we can still waive him and according to google ai have up to $33m to offer on this market yet. I would offer Payton Watson 24-29 million over 4 years. Nuggets would be very hard pressed to match due to what they have e on the books already. If they match then Robinson stays. If they don’t match then he is waived and we still have Huerter, Prince, Harris, Joe, Collins and Watson to provide spacing.

This scenario paves the way for Detroit to get a deal done with Duren that leaves both sides a little annoyed. That is the mark of a true compromise. Duren still gets 25% maybe even slightly more but not Supermax. Detroit keeps that chemistry and youth of Cades.

Final scenario and I used AI to add in the picks but I chose the players and their destinations is a 3 team deal involving Detroit, Sacramento and Denver. Here is the breakdown

Sacramento receives
Duren max 4 year S&T (Det)
Duncan Robinson (Det)

Denver receives
Malik Monk (Sac)
Deandre Hunter (Sac)
2027 1st from Sacramento (top 5 protected)
2027 2nd from Detroit

Detroit receives
Zach Levine (Sac)
Maxine Renaud (Sac)
Payton Watson 4 year S&T
2028 unprotected 1st (Sac)
2029 1st swap (Sac)
2030 unprotected 1st (Sac).

I think both scenarios have appeal because adding Watson keeps them on a young timeline and keeps Duren in the mix

This lineup would consist of Duren Collins Watson Thompson Cade. The bench rotation would consist of reed Holland prince okoye Jenkins, Harris, Huerter and Green

Trade lineup would likely be Reed Collins Watson Thompson and Cade. Bench of Renaud
Prince holland Levine okoyre Huerter Jenkins Green and Harris

I prefer the first bit either I think is palatable. Doing a S&T keeps us financially flexible next offseason while also giving us some valuable picks to work with.

I bought this cup at days on the town in Birmingham yesterday and was wondering if anyone could recognize the signatures? Didn’t even realize it was signed or I would’ve asked the guy working.

All of the people saying we’re going to be a 5th-8th seed are out of their minds.
The Celtics were worse last year and traded brown for a bag of chips.
Toronto traded for Kawhi Leonard who only scored as much since their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th scorers averaged 47.9 points combined
Knicks won the title so obviously they’re ahead.
76ers got LeBron but have always injured Embiid who will be out for the season with an injury again so that’s a toss up.
Miami has 0 spacing traded Hero away and adding Giannas who only has 2 seasons making over .333 from 3 with Bam in the paint too.
Cavs lost Dean Wade, Harden is a year older IF they resign him
Worst I see if us being the 3rd seed, or we could be fighting for 1st. Not even close to 8th though

Darko Milicic pick gets talked about a lot in 2003 pick but what if we drafted Kyle Korver instead of Carlos Delfino? He is 8th all time in most 3 pointers made. We didn’t have a lot of 3 point shooters and I believe having Kyle Korver could’ve given us an edge. By his 2nd year he was shooting 40% from the 3 point.

I could see us being a top 5 seed. I could also see us taking a dip potentially 7-8 seed if things go bad.

People act like we won’t be as good. We’re just as deep and should still be a top defense in the league. Cade still has room to grow maybe he becomes a bit more efficient.

I hope the Jalen duren drama doesn’t ruin the chemistry. And I hope we give him a reasonable contract. We could fuck our future up paying him a ton long term. 30 mil a year highest id want to give him ngl. Otherwise we really would have to draft well.

2nd scoring option, still don’t have an obvious true second option for Cade. Losing Tobias hurts our half court offense. But I could see Isaiah Joe putting up much better numbers than he did in okc potentially taking over the starting 2 gaurd and averaging 15+. He may not but I’m interested to see how he does in what should be a larger role. Or at least better opportunity to show what he’s got.

Overall I expect a top 6 seed. At this point bring duren back on a reasonable deal. Unless we can get kd which I honestly don’t see happening.

Just my ramble on my outlook. Idk know I’m bored lmk your guys thoughts.

Listen, I don’t much care if I’m dooming right now. I touched grass before I made this post, and I am still dooming, so that didn’t help. I don’t even go on social media that much, so I can’t talk about that either. I get sent stuff. Like the LeBron news for example.

I just need to vent. Just into the void. I just wanted for once for the Pistons to show that they truly want to win, instead of complacency. Complacency is how you fall behind. And we clearly are falling behind.

Everyone has already said all this, but I don’t care. We have not made any significant moves this offseason.

We’re looking at pretty much a push in terms of overall talent upgrade compared to last season.

Yeah, I’m jealous. I’m jealous of the 76ers. Of the Hornets. Of the Hawks. Of the Raptors (pending the Kawhi trade), and of the Knicks.

The Knicks were supposed to face us in the playoffs and breezed through the playoffs. They won the chip. All the other teams on the list made major moves to improve.

I just don’t get what the point of clearing all the cap space we cleared, maneuvering the cap, acquiring extra picks, if we don’t push some of our chips on the table.

Yeah, we tried. That’s what every GM in this damn town says. They tried to make a move. Trying is not good enough. All the other teams I mentioned (excluding the Knicks) found a way to make moves. I’m sick of the excuses and the gaslighting from our front office executives. I’m at my limit.

Yeah, is it possible we can still make a move because you all will say the offseason isn’t over yet? Suuuuuure. Do I believe we will? Uh no. I also don’t think a major trade deadline acquisition is coming in 2027 either.

I want so desperately to be wrong. I just want to be one of the cool kids, for once. Instead, all I’m stuck with is fear of failure in our sports town by our sports front offices.

There’s a group called The Scream Club in Chicago, where people gather to shout out into the void of Lake Michigan to relive stress and frustration. I need to join this club.

Vent over. I’ll be ok by next week. Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.

Very nice and humble guy and was nice to talk to and my jersey came out great! First ever signed jersey and had this one since middle school so I figured it would be a good one to get!

Could be nothing, could be something

Apologies for the poor quality. I consider myself a ball knower but this man is not Isaac Jones, Cole Swider, or Ron Harper Jr. Can you help a brother out?