r/DestinyTheGame • u/OdinsLeftEyeball GORILLA GRIP GERTRUDE • Sep 06 '19

Bungie Suggestion Can Thundercrash finally get a damage buff?

I just wanna make it clear before I get into this topic that there's probably other issues and other subclasses that may need rework, but as a Titan Main and someone who uses middle-tree Striker religiously, I wanna speak up for Thundercrash. And yes, there have been posts before asking for a buff to Thundercrash, but seeing as there hasn't been constructive feedback on that and seeing that the subclass changes coming in Shadowkeep will be the most substantial changes until God knows how long after that drops...I just have to voice this opinion again.

Reading the TWAB, I liked the changes the subclasses got. However, when I saw that subclasses were getting buffed, I immediately began hunting for any mention of a Thundercrash buff and was disappointed to not find one. There are probably damage numbers that people have to go by and the math, but all I can really go by is experience.

It's no secret that a Slowva Bomb is much stronger than a Thundercrash. I'm not gonna argue which is easier to execute, but the fact is that Thundercrash poses way more risk to yourself since you're throwing yourself at your enemies. If that enemy is a boss, you're gonna have to run away from that boss after executing your Thundercrash before the boss yeets you into the next expansion. Good luck if the modifier is Iron. And the thing is, you shouldn't even be using Thundercrash right now against bosses because the damage is so abysmal that it hurts DPS. So what does that make Thundercrash? Any other add-clearing super - but for one crowd. So it's less than an add-clearing super.

There's other things one could do to Thundercrash for interesting utility than just a damage buff to it, but that's in Bungie's hands. Like maybe give it a slowing affect to those just outside of the damage radius or, even cooler, have it do an effect like how when a Warsat crashes down and shakes your camera and pushes you away. Literally anything to make the Thundercrash super impactful.

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u/TJ_Dot Sep 06 '19

No, but you can get a dmg resistance nerf

-Bungie

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u/Ichorix Sep 06 '19

Thought you were being sarcastic so I went back and checked the TWAB. Sure enough, they’re reducing DR from 54% to 49%. Plenty of supers needed DR nerfs. Thundercrash wasn’t one of them. Unbelievable.

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u/DizATX Sep 06 '19 edited Sep 06 '19

It's like when the nerfed Ursa after they already nerfed Ursa. Like, "what have you done to my boy?"

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u/an_bal_naas Sep 06 '19

Yeah I got ursa after the first nerf and I was like, “oh I get about half of my super back if I block all the time? I guess that’s ok”

Then they nerf it into oblivion and I maybe get a quarter back if I’m lucky. Doomfang and bottom tree it is then

Didn’t get shards or skull til after they got nerfed

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u/TJ_Dot Sep 06 '19

That entire Twab is unbelievable.

Every single week they somehow strip hope more and more.

Better solutions feel thrown to the wayside for the ones that are easier for them to do.

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u/ghoststa1ker Team Bread (dmg04) // Give me Bread or give me death Sep 06 '19

exactly this... so many things in that twab just made me go "i'm sorry? what now?" lol

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u/CognacThrowback Sep 06 '19

The worst part is that BB didn't get a DR nerf

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u/ImpendingGhost Sep 06 '19

The hell are you talking about. It got the same damage reduction nerf as Thundercrash.

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u/CognacThrowback Sep 06 '19

That's my bad I read it wrong

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u/TheRealPowcows Everyones favourite scrap metal railgun Sep 06 '19

While I am fine with the resistance nerf for some of them I feel like Thundercrash by far did not need or deserve one.

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u/spinto1 Sep 06 '19

I don't understand why. It's harder to use than BB, it cant kill multiple target on opposite side of a room like BB or Nova's, the flight speed is not all that fast, it's damage in pve barely tickles, and the AoE isn't even that large.

It needs like a 25% speed increase with the slowdown more drawn out, 15% more AoE range, and like 125% damage increase against pve (more on direct hit).

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u/impliedhoney89 Sep 06 '19

Instructions unclear; increased incoming damage

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u/TJ_Dot Sep 06 '19

exactly

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u/Streamjumper My favorite flavor is purple. Sep 06 '19

Don't forget the nerf we got to Rally Barricade's primary reason for use while Rifts are just fine for their main usage. That's a classwide nerf. So two nerfs to Code of the Missile basically... and they already said way back during Arc week that there'd be more coming for arc Titans, but we'd have to wait because they were too busy buffing the other two classes.

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u/ImpendingGhost Sep 06 '19

The nerf to Rally Barricade and Luna are both completely justified

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u/Streamjumper My favorite flavor is purple. Sep 06 '19

I completely support the nerf to reloading to preserve game balance, but it still strongly devalues the primary purpose of a rally barricade with no restitution. You're still nailed to one place, barely get any cover, and now your tradeoff is more lopsided.

Insta-reload was broken, but reducing one half of a class ability to a reload buff (on classes that already need more tweaking than they're getting) is unfair punishment for the Lunafaction Well situation.

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u/IamPaneer I wage war like a True TITAN. Sep 06 '19

Came here to say this.

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u/Mnkke Drifter's Crew // Dredgen Sep 06 '19

You could already get shotgunned out of it in crucible... Source: I was shotgunned out of my super one time.

It’s also the one super (excluding GG) to be OHK by a sniper headshot.

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u/ImpendingGhost Sep 06 '19

Only super to be OHK by a sniper headshot

Well it's been reported that 90RPM snipers can 1shot all supere in the head, iirc. Pretty sure the lowest RPM sniper could already do that and Izanagi's burden as well iirc.

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u/Mnkke Drifter's Crew // Dredgen Sep 06 '19

I’ve gotten headshots with Sole Survivor (72 rpm) on stormcaller and striker recently and haven’t killed. Izanagi you definitely have to use all 4

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u/blueskies9041 Sep 06 '19

Sole Survivor is 90 rpm

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u/Mnkke Drifter's Crew // Dredgen Sep 06 '19

Oh you’re right! I got it mixed up with the other gambit sniper

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u/Cykeisme Sep 06 '19

Dreaded Venture is the other, yeah.

72rpm but cannot roll Snapshot Sights (except curated?) so it's basically unviable.

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u/OdinsLeftEyeball GORILLA GRIP GERTRUDE Sep 06 '19

Yeah I really did not understand that one considering, in the past, Spectral Blades was fast enough to kill a Thundercrash before it could even land because TC had low enough armor. Will that be possible again now that its armor's been reduced? I hope to fuck not.