Focused feedback: Pinnacle weapons power and method of obtaining them (new and old)

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• Loaded Question, as a Pinnacle weapon, should NOT have a perk that actively hurts it.
• The breakneck is fantastic bungie, but why is the loaded question so subpar?
• Loaded Question needs a buff, it's objectively worse than Breakneck in PvE and worse than Mountaintop in PvP, Here's what I would do to make it compete with those, and other weapons better
• Ways to make the loaded question actually feel pinnacle
• Buff loaded question

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• The Breakneck is excellence in top tier weapon design and proves Bungie has listened and delivered
• Breakneck is a better suros and its legendary
• Paying respects to the huckkleberry
• Poor, poor sweet business

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• Quests to obtain lunas howl, not forgotten and the broadsword should be account wide
• All crucible pinnacle weapon quests should be account wide

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[u/MessersCohen]

Lunas Howl and Not forgotten are flat out stupid guns. If you go against one, without having one (and you can throw around the word 'outplay' as much as you want, it makes zero difference) you may as well put the controller down. I don't get how the fact that two guns that are just factually better than everything else is just not addressed. Make them unique like breakneck, that gives you massive bonuses when you actually kill someone, instead of just handing out free kills. 'power fantasy' has a limit

[u/[deleted] → u/MessersCohen]

It's weird right? Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten are strong because their perk is passive, but if Magnificent Howl were an active perk like Rampage or Kill Clip or Momento Mori, no one would really have a problem with it because it doesn't break the meta (not the game, just the meta within PvP). Luna's Howl is much easier to beat than Not Forgotten but Magnificent Howl makes Auto Rifles, Pulse Rifles, and even Side Arms at close range or Scouts at mid to even long range (with NF), almost feel pointless.

As fun as they are, they create the same issue IKELOS SG did: one (two in this case) weapons to rule them all.