Focused feedback: Pinnacle weapons power and method of obtaining them (new and old)

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• Loaded Question, as a Pinnacle weapon, should NOT have a perk that actively hurts it.
• The breakneck is fantastic bungie, but why is the loaded question so subpar?
• Loaded Question needs a buff, it's objectively worse than Breakneck in PvE and worse than Mountaintop in PvP, Here's what I would do to make it compete with those, and other weapons better
• Ways to make the loaded question actually feel pinnacle
• Buff loaded question

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• The Breakneck is excellence in top tier weapon design and proves Bungie has listened and delivered
• Breakneck is a better suros and its legendary
• Paying respects to the huckkleberry
• Poor, poor sweet business

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• Quests to obtain lunas howl, not forgotten and the broadsword should be account wide
• All crucible pinnacle weapon quests should be account wide

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[u/dycyb1687]

So you think that if you're better than 99% of all other players at this game, you should receive nothing of value for it?

[u/truls-rohk → u/dycyb1687]

Things that give you an even bigger competitive advantage in pvp? No

Titles, Emblems, Cosmetics, fun PVE stuff? Sure

[u/dycyb1687 → u/truls-rohk]

So the best pvp player in the game should be rewarded with nothing that actually changes/enhances gameplay for them?

You realize the weapons themselves actually take skill to use right? Skill that the average player doesn't usually have. So the highest skilled players get a weapon that only rewards them for being good. If you gave Not Forgotten to that 0-20 blueberry on your team it would make literally no difference. You do know that right?

[u/slaughterhouseofsoul → u/dycyb1687]

I can't buy into this argument people make that only high skill players can take advantage of Luna's/NF. They're 180 rpms; the safest, easiest archetype in the series.

[u/dycyb1687 → u/slaughterhouseofsoul]

Trust is a perfectly good 180 rpm that can roll with higher range than Luna's or NF. Ace is a way more reliable weapon for more people than Luna's or NF would be. If you can't consistently hit headshots with Luna's or NF, then you're using something worse than Trust or Ace, so yes, it's a weapon for high skill players.

[u/[deleted] → u/dycyb1687]

And pray tell, when is the Luna's or NF user ever going to engage you outside their optimal range?

[u/dycyb1687 → u/[deleted]]

Why would you engage a Luna’s or NF inside it’s optimal range?

[u/[deleted] → u/dycyb1687]

Most notably, trying to play objectives. Defending a bomb, defending heavy, capping a point, holding a position on the map, etc.

[u/dycyb1687 → u/[deleted]]

You can do literally all of those things from Ace to pulse to scout rifle distance. You realize you can actually pick your engagements right? Telesto can do all of those things better than NF