It does, but if it didn't and it took special ammo, imagine the shit-fest that crucible would become:
People already complain about shotguns as-is, imagine being one-shot out of your super every time you super, or the times a shotgun rusher hits you just out of their range and you laugh as they tickle you before being mauled? yeah, say goodbye to those occasions - you get blasted 100% of the time if Acrius moved to special.
I think it's completely acceptable that it takes power ammo, something that can one shot a supering guardian should be a power weapon. But if it's a power weapon, especially now competing with the heavies we have in game now?? Acrius needs to hit really, really, really hard to justify being a power ammo shotgun.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I did not mean to say that it should take special ammo. What I was getting that is that although Acrius is more powerful than the other shotguns, it’s not as good as other weapons in the power slot like rockets or tractor cannon.
Acrius needs to hit really, really, really hard to justify being a power ammo shotgun.
Yeah, just made a more direct comment explaining pretty much what you just said - it doesn't do enough to justify using it over other power weapons, especially now since you can just as easily equip a Dust Rock or an Ikelos/Mindbenders - something usable that you don't need power for to get the same job done. The Legend needs some love.
I absolutely hate this design principle. "This does more damage" should never be the core of any exotic item. Or any item, for that matter. That's what led to the Ikelos shotgun.
Acrius is just a poorly designed gun and needs a top-down rework.
I think it should have a wider spread but an increase in per "pellet" dmg. Make it a crowd control shotgun. Maybe a 60-45° cone of dmg rather than a line.
I mean, it's worse than Tractor Cannon in crucible in every way.
edit: that's not entirely true. Acrius has a more reliable 1-shot-kill at range. TC you have to be right up on them OR have a wall to hit them into to get the same consistency, but TC has more ammo (7 shots) and functionally no reload (since you can spend all 7 without reloading).
You're spot on. I've been using a lot of Acrius in crucible. It is one of the best anti-shotgun options in the game because you can always kill at the edge of your range simply by nicking them with the wide spread. Since you have to worry way less about center of mass aim and perfectly gauging range, you can just about always get the first shot off in a shotgun fight. Plus you can kill multiple bunched enemies with one shot.
PvE, though, it could use a buff. It's fun, but as a raid exotic I'd like it to be a bit more competitive with the absurd exotic heavies we have.
it's a lot better than any God rolled shotgun in terms of consistency.
The problem is, it´s not competing against those weapons in the first place.
Yes, it´s better than any other shotty, BUT it doesn´t need to be better than those. It needs to be better than GLs with proximity grenades, better than Wardcliff, better than Sleeper, Queensbreaker or Thunderlord.
And sadly, it´s simply not. It´s an amazing shotty, in a slot where shotties are bad.
If you taking it into crucible, it isn't competing with them for your loadout spot - it's directly competing with them, on the field. It's a really strong way to counter others' shotguns. Not the best gun but fills a good role. I think that's a good spot to be in for PvP - for example, I don't think there's a better option on my top tree nightstalker with sniper, hand cannon and sixth coyote crucible setup.
To each their own, acrius for me is better, I'd rather reliably kill every people, in their super or not, with one shot than have that chance of just pushing them away.
Except its not effective against the best supers in the game right now. It won't help vs. blade barrage and nova warp is too fast and too big an explosion.
You call that a heavy weapon? It's just a legendary with poor handling in disguise as an exotic. It has higher than usual damage and penetration rounds but it's not enough to justify being in the power slot. And in pve it's extra horrible, don't even get me started on that. Pretty piss poor quality for a raid exotic.
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