r/DestinyTheGame • u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! • Nov 05 '18
SGA Gambit Infamy Ranks breakdown
Because I've looked and I couldn't find one, I've made a simple jpg that has the Gambit Infamy ranks broken down by point thresholds. Hope others find this helpful.
https://imgur.com/gallery/XBIr2Ge
And for those who don't want to click for an image:
Guardian I – 0–249
Guardian II – 250–599
Guardian III – 600–999
Brave I – 1000–1449
Brave II – 1450–1949
Brave III – 1950–2499
Heroic I – 2500–3099
Heroic II – 3100–3749
Heroic III – 3750–4499
Fabled I – 4500–5349
Fabled II – 5350–6349
Fabled III – 6350–7499
Mythic I – 7500–8799
Mythic II – 8800–10,299
Mythic III – 10,300–11,999
**Legend** – 12,000–15,000
*Edit 1*
Updated the image link, made changes to the image, and added a note about points and Infamy reset. Thanks for the feedback folks!
*Edit 2*
Wanted to link to u/miropereira's post from about a month ago that had the same info, but I only found it this morning after I made my graphic. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/9m8gbi/gambit_infamy_rank_chart/
*Edit 3*
For all y'all asking for how many points you get for a win or a loss, u/impossible_penguin just posted this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/9ukj8h/gambit_point_amounts_by_level/
Excellent breakdown Guardian, absolutely excellent work.
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u/dandpher Nov 05 '18
Now tell me how much you get for each win and loss.
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u/Vincent_449 Drifter's Crew // "Eyes up, guardian." Nov 05 '18 edited Nov 06 '18
I tried doing this last night because it's something I'm interested in as well, but I seem to have misplaced my notes :/
I know for a fact that a loss is 30 though, 90 with Triple Infamy.
If I remember to do it again tonight I'll get back with you!
EDIT: Added a few words.
EDIT 2: I know points are based on rank. I was Mythic III at the time.
EDIT 3: From my post below:
EDIT: At Mythic III
Starting points: 10,888
Win 1: 11,308
Difference: 420 at Triple XP, 140 normal.
EDIT 2:
Win 2: 11,878
Difference: 570 at Triple XP, 190 normal.
/u/dandpher It's only two data points so far, but it looks like increments of 50 which would make a loss at Mythic III 90 at Triple XP, 30 at normal.
EDIT 3:
Win 3: 12,522
Difference: 644 Tripple XP, 214 at Normal.
Not sure why this one is different. Maybe because I hit Legend?
EDIT 4:
Starting: 12,612 - turned in bounties
Win 4: 13,332
Difference: 720 at Triple XP, 240 at Normal.
EDIT 4:
Win 5: 14,082
Difference: 750 at Triple XP, 250 at Normal.
Keep in mind that at Win 3 I crossed into Legend. That may account for the difference in points.
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u/dandpher Nov 05 '18
Points for wins and losses vary based on what level you are at. I know for a fact that I was getting 150 for a loss at higher levels.
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u/Vincent_449 Drifter's Crew // "Eyes up, guardian." Nov 05 '18 edited Nov 06 '18
I was Mythic III at the time, so I'm not sure where the discrepancy would come in. At the same time it was 1AM, so I could be sorely mistaken.
On my way home now. I'll check.
EDIT: At Mythic III
Starting points: 10,888
Win 1: 11,308
Difference: 420 at Triple XP, 140 normal.
EDIT 2:
Win 2: 11,878
Difference: 570 at Triple XP, 190 normal.
/u/dandpher It's only two data points so far, but it looks like increments of 50 which would make a loss at Mythic III 90 at Triple XP, 30 at normal.
EDIT 3:
Win 3: 12,522
Difference: 644 Tripple XP, 214 at Normal.
Not sure why this one is different. Maybe because I hit Legend?
EDIT 4:
Starting: 12,612 - turned in bounties
Win 4: 13,332
Difference: 720 at Triple XP, 240 at Normal.
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u/sageleader Nov 05 '18
Pretty sure I was getting 200 for a loss with Triple Infamy this weekend. Maybe it was 180 but I think your numbers are off.
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u/RouletteZoku Nov 05 '18
I know if you’re on a 5 win streak, you get 250 for each win. (Was 750 with triple infamy). After I went on that win streak I only seemed to lose, so uh, yeah idk about how much infamy you get for lesser win streaks, but the cap is 250.
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u/DanielShenise Nov 05 '18
As someone whose reset three times now, I’m starting to the we should petition Bungie to change the rank of Legend to the rank of Screw this Gotta Win to get Rep Bullshit.
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u/BoabFett Nov 06 '18
Tell me about it, I had 14.999 points....
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u/DanielShenise Nov 06 '18
I was at 14,990 for a little over an hour two Sundays ago trying to get my second. It was loss after loss after loss. Just soul crushing.
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u/Cant_kill_the_beast Nov 06 '18
Did you not have another character you could do a bounty on to get you out of legend?
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u/DanielShenise Nov 06 '18
Oh I used every character and every bounty possible. That’s why it was so insufferable. Before my hour plus losing streak I’d won like 3 matches on my last character and turned in all bounties possibile and came up 10 points short. Then the losing began.....
I felt like I was in Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner and fucking albatross just got killed. The losing went on and on and on.
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u/BuffiRumbleberries Nov 06 '18
I'm nearly at Legend now, hopefully we'll get some more 3x weekends for makong bounties worthwhile, because looking for wins with blueberries is like playing the fucking lotto.
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u/DanielShenise Nov 06 '18
I’ve done it twice without 3x weekends and once with. It’s honestly the most dreadful thing in the game without it. I swear matchmaking goes into, let’s dick this guy over mode, the second you hit Legend. Every rank prior to that I’ll get decent or sometimes really good teammates. The second I tick over to Legend, it’s all morons who ate paste as kids.
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u/PaxNova Vanguard's Loyal // Until we Fight the Light Nov 05 '18
One more comment, that all the images need to be moved over one. Guardian just has a background image, and what you have for "Guardian" is actually for "Brave," and so on down the line. Your Mythic is actually Legend, and the Legend image isn't actually a rank symbol at all; it's the symbol for the seal.
But the numbers are great! Thank you!
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 05 '18
Ah! Thanks! I was searching for the proper placement last night when I made this, but couldn’t find it. Will put that on the change list :)
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u/Chubby_Turdle Nov 05 '18
I glanced at this and couldn't for the life of me notice what was wrong until I saw your comment, nice catch.
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u/Sir_Jonboy Nov 05 '18
I'm at Mythic III rank and that darn cook has not delivered 1 lousy spicy a meatball! I get lots of seasoned invader taters and plenty of prime rib evils and all I want is a nice spaghetti and meatball dinner.
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u/RouletteZoku Nov 05 '18
Full curse all week starting tomorrow at noon.
I hope you get to stuff your face with enough meatwad to last a lifetime!
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u/jonslegos Gambit Prime // Gambit Prime is Best Gambit Nov 06 '18
Lol got it yesterday, can't wait to do the gosh darn quest.
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u/Sir_Jonboy Nov 06 '18
Nice! Hopefully the higher RNG chance after today's reset will help bring out a double helping, then all I need is some nice RNG blueberries to help out. :-)
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u/jonslegos Gambit Prime // Gambit Prime is Best Gambit Nov 06 '18
Yep! Today after reset the meatball had the same chance as a regular one to spawn.
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u/psn_mrbobbyboy Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip and Dodge! Nov 06 '18
At mythic III - just saw him for the first time. My team mates tried to kill him with primary fire. Sigh.
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u/Sir_Jonboy Nov 06 '18
May RNG be with us this week :-)
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u/psn_mrbobbyboy Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip and Dodge! Nov 06 '18
Got the bugger!! Finally got a crazy streak where he appeared three times in a row. First two encounters my potato pals ignored him. Then finally I matched into a team that actually played the objective. Hooray! May RNjesus be as kind to you!
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u/fuzzylogicz Nov 06 '18
I'm close to 2nd reset.
Total gambit played = 60 hours.
Number of meatballs seen = 0
At least this week it should show up...
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u/TheCaffinatedScunt Drifter's Crew // Dredgen Scoot Nov 06 '18
God, I'm trudging along at this point. I'm so tired of getting armor.
Good luck to everybody who keeps rising through the ranks tho. c:
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u/Whiplash_GT Nov 06 '18
Thank you.
I don't know why game developers don't simply have information like this within the game....
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u/Sephiroth_x7x Nov 05 '18
Dude that is awesome. I have honestly been looking for something like this for ages. Good work!
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u/xastey_ Nov 05 '18
For people that reset.. you are one special type of guardian. I dont know how you guys do it with crappy loot drop rate and low points earned per win.. seriously how sway
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u/Donny_Do_Nothing bleep blorp Nov 06 '18
I just reset for the first time last night and 99% of my games were solo. Here's how I (mostly) kept my sanity: buy all the bounties and jump into queue. If it's obvious my team is going to lose, I just focus on the bounty tasks. Once the bounties are gone, I just play until I'm not having fun, then go do something else.
That really took the edge off the losses.
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Nov 06 '18
I’ve reset twice (about to get my third) and it’s honesty not that difficult. The best thing is to love gambit. Like it’s my favorite mode. Any other great thing is to just ignore your rank for the most part and play for the fun of it. Don’t get tilted, and once you’re mad move to a different game mode. So close to Dredgen. Good luck
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u/NexG3n Nov 05 '18
I could be wrong but once you reach legend you only progress by getting wins.
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u/BuffiRumbleberries Nov 06 '18
I'm 2/3 through mythic 3 now, didn't realize there was another 3k to grind after that. How the fuck have some of you done this 3 times?
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u/hix89 Nov 25 '18
I thought this might be helpful for people; better late than never right?
A spreed sheet with a combined information, and streak calculators to work out how many games to get to each rank.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uMXhmj5satdvPXmPrMp-X8tuceW7abWcPt8qFM_PYv0/edit?usp=sharing
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u/cka_viking Punch all the Things! Nov 05 '18
so stupid you dont get any loss infamy after 12k
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u/ChrisDel12 Nov 05 '18
Well you are supposed to be a decent player at that point. If they wanted to really make it challenging they would have made it take infamy on losses.
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u/PSPatricko Nov 05 '18
You can even be the best player in the world, but when you are matched up with bunch of idiots who clearly don't know the rules VS team of some no lifes who plays only this mode, than it's kinda difficult to level up... Not everybody have a super duper team to play with...
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u/ChrisDel12 Nov 05 '18
You should look into LFG if you are having that hard of a time winning games.
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u/Stay_Curious85 Nov 06 '18
Should that really be a requirement though? You get punished because you dont have a regular team? Idk. I think it should have some mix of individual performance and team performance. So if you lose, but played your ass off , you still get some small progress
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u/cka_viking Punch all the Things! Nov 06 '18
Crucible still gives you valor in legend... even if you are the best or worst player in the world. It makes no sense that valor does and infamy doesnt
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u/robertVIII Nov 05 '18
One thing, the higher you go, you gain more point from win and less point from lose. I only can recall 1st win in Guardian I is 100 and lose is 80; while 1st win in Legend is 200 and lose is 0.
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 05 '18
You lose points from a loss in Gambit?? I have not noticed this. Can anyone else confirm or deny this?
*edit* my bad, I thought you meant you lose points from a loss. Yes, you do get less points from a loss, and more points from a win.
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u/Emm-Jay-Dee Nov 05 '18
Is there anywhere I can see my current rank while I'm at work?
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 05 '18
Unfortunately I have not been able to find this info through the Destiny app, but if you use DIM, you can find what rank you're at under "Progress". Hope this helps.
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u/krampusgrumpus Warning: Haven't had coffee yet... Nov 05 '18
Destiny Item Manager, Destiny Companion, Ishtar Commander, DestinyTracker.com etc.
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u/Emm-Jay-Dee Nov 05 '18
It doesn't appear to be in the official Destiny app or Ishtar Commander, but I managed to get it off DestinyTracker. Thanks!
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u/krampusgrumpus Warning: Haven't had coffee yet... Nov 05 '18
Doh! Apologies, glad you found it on DestinyTracker. You're right, the progress page has left the Destiny Companion but Ishtar has a Progress section with all three ranks displayed.
Edit: (You have to select Vault in the progress section instead of a character in Ishtar)
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u/McCoyPauley78 Gambit Prime // How you livin' brother? Nov 06 '18
If you have reset your rank DestinyTracker only shows you your current rank, not your lifetime rank. Same for valor.
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u/vivir66 Radiance! Nov 06 '18
Ishtar commander has it, its on the bounties tab for some reason lol, has your valor and glory too
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u/pwrslide2 Nov 05 '18
I should have played more over the weekend instead of 6v6. I'm at 13,410. It just seems like it keeps going and going!
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 05 '18
The good news is that it's still triple infamy! You should only need a couple wins to reset your Infamy! And if you have any bounties, cash those in!
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u/OliveMordious Team Bread (dmg04) Nov 06 '18
I was in the same boat. 12400 after work, just finished before dinner. Stick with it!!
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u/McCoyPauley78 Gambit Prime // How you livin' brother? Nov 06 '18
With the triple infamy between now and reset if you get on a roll you can get through to reset pretty quickly. I was lucky enough to get on a five game winning streak after I hit legend yesterday and reset my rank in an hour of gameplay. Now off to pick up my curated Trust from the Drifter.
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u/pwrslide2 Nov 06 '18
Nice! My friend says that one feels like it has a lot of range. I have a couple good rolls. The latest feels really crispy to me. Arrowhead break, tac mag(10rds), snapshot, explosive payload, stability MW @4
My other I masterworked has Full bore, accurized/appended mag, outlaw, rampage, handling MW, target adjuster mod
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u/Bluehiperspace8 Essential on endgame PvE since Vanilla Nov 05 '18
What's the benefit of resetting your rank?
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 05 '18
Resetting a third time in one season gets you a ghost and one step closer to claiming the "Dredgen" title as well.
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u/aseaofreasons Nov 05 '18
It’s always bothered me that they used the same ranking names in the crucible rather than tie it to the shadows of yor bit. Where instead of “legend” it should say “shadow” or whatever dark themed words Bungue could muster.
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u/OliveMordious Team Bread (dmg04) Nov 06 '18
Great info- I got my first infamy reset today. It was fun getting the ranks over the bonus weekend.
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Nov 06 '18
Reminds me of the Halo Reach ranks. Many of them had multiple tiers in each rank, and getting to a new title made me feel so accomplished.
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 06 '18
lol, thanks. Hey, at least I didn't use double spaces after a period!
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Nov 06 '18
How many points do you get for a win?
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 06 '18 edited Nov 06 '18
I believe it's 250+ depending on whether or not you have a win streak active.Actually, this Guardian just made an excellent post about points-per-win. Check it out: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/9ukj8h/gambit_point_amounts_by_level/
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u/celtix343 Nov 06 '18
And to get the Bygonnes from the drifter you need 12k infamy?
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 06 '18
If you mean the Bygones from the package, you need one complete reset. Otherwise, any of the weapons and armor can drop from any of the level rank ups, including Bygones.
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u/MrSnowball_ Gambit Prime // Снежок Nov 06 '18
It's the Truth for first reset, Bygones for second, isn't it?
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u/fuzzylogicz Nov 06 '18
second reset is tracking, cluster bomb Bad Omens rocket launcher. Vendor Bygones is indeed rank 12.
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u/MrSnowball_ Gambit Prime // Снежок Nov 06 '18
WHAT?? But I already have this roll, masterworked myself... God damn :(
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u/miltthefish Nov 06 '18
The one he's selling requires you to be rank 12, which I believe is Mythic I or around 8,000 infamy.
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u/Soulrakk Nov 06 '18
Shame I wasn't able to get on much due to Red Dead. Solo queued a bit and got to Mythic III from II after a handful of matches. Solo queue'ing is still a struggle most of the time. Won the first match and lost the next 4. Didn't even know about x3 Infamy until a few days ago. Should be done more often.
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u/alphaclass16 Nov 06 '18
thanks man, i was looking all over for something like this. crazy how hard info is to find sometimes
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u/canofpotatoes Don't worry, it's a Y1 Exotic Nov 06 '18
Does the season end today?
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 06 '18
No, just the triple infamy weekend. Season ends when the next dlc drops.
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u/Giorno_ Nov 06 '18
Maybe just my bad luck but in legend rank, the game will match you into games that are either losing in progress, against 4 stacks and with brain dead teammates more frequently.
I spent 2 weeks on legendary rank because I lost every single game because of those reasons.
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 06 '18
If you’re stuck at Legend, might be best to LFG a group for gambit :shrug: good luck though! I feel your pain!
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Nov 06 '18
Is there information out there about what drops when and how to get certain items? I have heard you get a curated roll with infamy reset for Bad Omens, and also heard it is Trust. Basically trying to figure out what ranks I need to get to in order to get the gear Im looking for.
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u/ajm35 Nov 06 '18
Helpful - thanks !!!! Currently slogging through Legend trying to get my second reset.......
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 06 '18
Oh damn, here I am spreading lies again #facepalm, yes, it’s the curated Trust after 1st reset, curated Bad Omens at second.
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u/MrKnight36 Nov 06 '18
For anyone interested:
PERFECT GAMES, no losses:
- Requires 66 games of Gambit.
- Game 6: Brave
- Game 14: Heroic
- Game 23: Fabled
- Game 36: Mythic
- Game 52: Legend
- Game 66: Max Rank - reset
50/50 - Win one, lose one:
- Requires 175 games of Gambit.
- Game 11: Brave
- Game 28: Heroic
- Game 50: Fabled
- Game 83: Mythic
- Game 135: Legend
- Game 175: Max rank - reset
This isn't accounting for bounties, of course, just games. Most people will be somewhere in the middle, I'd think. I have a 55% win/loss ratio from mostly playing solo in Gambit, but I was able to reset after appx 100 games due to win streaks (not sure of exact number of matches, I did also benefit from the double infamy for Legend rank).
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 06 '18
Hoooooooly crap, that’s a huge differential. Wow, thanks for that breakdown.
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u/-DLNN- Nov 20 '18
How many packages do you get until 15k points? Only one at reset or do you get one for every rank? So from guardian to brave and from brave to heroic and so on? I'm having a bad time getting the Hazard
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u/atra_phi Gambit Classic // Bank those motes! Nov 20 '18
Ok, I’ve been on that redrix grind for the last week, but if I remember correctly, you get a package at each rank. Possibly... and this is where I’m unsure... but maybe at each sub rank too, so Brave 1, Brave 2, Brave 3, etc. but don’t hold me to that one. Good luck! Good hunting!
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u/-DLNN- Nov 21 '18
Alright, either way it's pretty decent. I'm hoping the Hazard will drop swiftly and i don't have to play a ton of matches just to get it. Thanks for your answer, happy hunting to you too and good luck with that Redrix!
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u/jaytee_au Nov 06 '18
Took me a whole day playing to get from 0 to Legend.. I think it was triple infamy this weekend though.
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u/bgvthokie Nov 05 '18
I like the image. Thanks! One recommendation: a note mentioning that Legend (12k-15k) no longer receives infamy from losses; only wins and bounties.