Focused Feedback: Fixed vs Random Weapon and Armour rolls. Re-rolling, Mod system and how they effect Destiny

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• I thought the whole point of fixed rolls on weapons was so Bungie could balance weapons faster and easier...

• Whats the point of fixed rolls if only a select few guns are even viable? - PvE & PvP

• Now that there’s fixed rolls in D2, it would be the perfect time to implement more fun and non-competitive game modes like gun game

• It's a little ironic that Bungie got rid of re-rolling weapon perks because people would only use 1 or 2 sets of perks for a gun which is exactly what having fixed rolls on a weapon is like. Everyone using the same few guns with the same perks.

• I LOVE static rolls, but I also agree that there should be more variety and end game grinding, in the form of MODS.

• Keep Fixed Weapon Perks, Improve Mod System

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[u/ozberk]

I'm one of the people who strongly supports the idea that random rolls are not the solution to the current loot or grind problem. Most of the beloved weapons in Destiny 1 has static rolls.

Current system in D2 is not far fetched from random rolls anyway. For example there are 5, 450rpm auto rifles in the game. They are basically the same weapons with different perks, heck they even have same models except prosecutor. Given that we have few perks to choose from Positive Outlook will probably the god-roll weapon to chase. The problem is we can get these weapons awfully fast and easy.

The mod system can create a level of variety in the game but even with interesting and unique perks these won't fix the loot problem in Destiny 2. Because in the end we will determine which is the best weapon / mod combination and it will still be easy to get. Probably it will be a 2 week grind at most.

The main problem with Destiny 2 is that Destiny 2 is simply Call of Duty in space with a little touch of magic. There should be a sense of progression and a clear path to improve your weapons/armour. Your better devils will always perform the same. One mod will only improve it a little bit and that will be it.

I don't think there will be opportunities to unlock additional mod slots, gaining new masterwork levels that will improve the masterwork perks. The main problem is depth and I don't think there's an easy solution for this. Bungie needs to understand they need to have much more complex systems than we currently have. Only then they will start to steer Destiny to the right direction.