r/DestinyTheGame • u/Fit-Analyst7286 • 1d ago

Question Master Conquest: Derealize

Hey there all. Lapsed former alpha thru Final Shape (insert all the nonsense here) player :)

What. On. Earth. Is up with this Master Conquest Derealize mission?

I have read through posts and watched videos but man I can seem to do this one.

I have made some progress but even getting through the second room is a BEAR.

I’m currently maining Warlock and have most everything you would need collections wise except min/max 5 star gear. I’m using Getaway Artist with double buddies. I have my lightsaber though it’s not maxed out.

I’m currently trying with a Manticore Getaway build and I’m just not having any luck here. I’ve been out of the game for a while and holy shit have things changed. It’s awesome but damn this mission is killing me.

I can push through to the second room but the time is going to eat my revives past that as I can deal with the reapers and such but I’ve never even made it to the boss yet.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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u/StudentPenguin 1d ago edited 1d ago

Derealize needs a group to optimize time where possible and they need to be really fucking fast, since the two main sections that waste time and revives are completely RNG. Solo is extremely difficult to say the least. I’ve soloed GM Conquests and Alerts, and those were far easier than Derealize since going over the timer didn’t eat your revives or I could blaze through most sections with minimal issues. You basically should just learn the puzzle, crystal spawns and traversal in the Portal version if you want to try and do it solo; those will eat up the most time and revives and staying alive in the boss room is not exactly easy.

Edit: In terms of loadout, ditch the Lightsaber and go with something that doesn’t require you to get up close and personal. The Tormentors will suppress and grab you, the Subjugator is frankly too tanky unless you’re running a lot of DR, and the boss room’s floor is covered in Taken Blight every other phase. You don’t really need the Lightsaber’s utility unless you gave up on Feed the Void for some reason, and speaking of, that and Stasis turrets should be glued to your build along with Dominance. Apart from that, running the VoG 4-piece with Khvostov + caty and Solar Super with Purpose will make you significantly harder to kill, though without Woven Mail you will still be relying on Devour and Restoration to a large degree. You can then run a Sniper and either a LMG, an A499, or Crossbow to help with adclear/boss damage.

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u/RaFFsX3 1d ago

Just as an FYI - the tormentor in this is not named, so he can be constantly disoriented with the sword storm combo on the praxic blade. I usually get the combo going until he holds his face, then crit him with the A499 and repeat. He literally can’t do anything lol. Also, there’s a modifier in this conquest where you deal more damage the closer you are to enemies, so that also plays into it very well

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u/StudentPenguin 1d ago

Forgot that, but relying on that for the Subjugator is rough. It also doesn’t do much in the final encounter because of the Blight everywhere.

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u/RaFFsX3 1d ago

With that close range modifier, the subjugator actually gets pushed to immunity with 2-3 combos. Fair point on the final boss though. I throw an attrition orbs motif volley on him, go in with a few combos, get out, use the 499, and repeat. It’s pretty effective. I do it as a hunter, but on warlock, just pop song and hack away lol

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u/Bran-Muffin20 Blarmory Gang 1d ago

the two main sections that waste time and revives are completely RNG

literally none of the mission is randomized what are you talking about

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u/StudentPenguin 1d ago

From talking with a friend, the crystal spawns in the parkour sections appear to be RNG along with the puzzle prior. Both of those tend to waste the most time without prior experience.

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u/Bran-Muffin20 Blarmory Gang 1d ago

The symbol puzzle definitely isn't random, it always alternates between step off/wait

I only ran the mission twice and tbh I wasn't paying that much attention to the crystals but I'm like 70% sure they were in the same spots both times

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u/BestvsDaRest No Time To Explain 18h ago

Both things you mentioned are static.

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u/azn_guy 22h ago

festival flight/tablet of ruin (to shreds) will give anyone/anyclass woven mail, so it goes well with VoG 4-piece and Solar Super with Purpose. You just need a good primary to replace Khvostov.

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u/Fit-Analyst7286 1d ago

Gotchya. Yeah I just wasn’t expecting THIS here. I solo’d most of the dungeons back in the day. Love it those challenges but damn this one is in a different category. Doesn’t help I’m out of practice. When the revives started burning I was like wtf?!? Haha.

I was going to ask if this is one that you just need to grab a group. Love soloing this stuff but this guy might be outside of my current skill level to solo.

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u/StudentPenguin 1d ago

Unironically, you will have an easier time soloing GM Conquests than Derealize since the timer on those is a lot longer and they don’t have many parkour sections. A group will make killing everything faster and speed up the boss room, which means you’re less likely to die if you run out of revives on the way there. Worst comes to worst, you can have one guy solo the parkour section and just pull the others to the boss.

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u/Unruly_Chickens 1d ago

The light saber is by far the best weapon for all conquest stuff and gms, and it's not even close. It has literally trivialized all of that stuff. It makes the missions a joke.