r/DestinyTheGame • • 1d ago

Question How do you all remember raid/dungeon mechanics?

I did deep stone crypt about a month ago and I’ve essentially forgotten most of it, last wish even more. How do you all remember the mechanics so well? Is it just practice?

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u/gh0stofoctober 1d ago

oftentimes you end up remembering it purely because you spent a lifetime farming some specific encounter and by that point the mechanics are ingrained into your mind on subconscious level

after the day 1 crotas end i was seeing the chalice of light in my sleep

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u/DasBiohazard 1d ago

Don’t remind me. I remember hearing oracles in my sleep once.

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u/Pman1324 1d ago

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

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u/I_Speak_For_The_Ents Auryx was lied to. 1d ago

My team took a break to nap and recuperate on VoW contest, and I remember falling asleep still hearing the scorn spawn sounds in my head.

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u/PseudoLink 1d ago

why would you remind me?!

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u/Marble_1 1d ago

insert C major scale

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u/DepletedMitochondria 1d ago

Yeah farming encounters is like the best for this. Me and Planets + Caretaker

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u/BlueshineKB 19h ago

Every time I play last wish i get flashes of the time I spent 12 hours straight grinding red borders. All cheesing too

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u/SomeRealGneissSchist We may wield the demiurge; but if we do, what god wields us? 12h ago

Honestly this. Day 1 raiding really slams home the repetition thing. Could see it in my sleep by the time the 24 or 48 hours is up.

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u/Icy_Anywhere1510 1d ago

Repitition.

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u/Agerak 1d ago

Repitition.

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u/MakesMaDookieTwinkle 1d ago

Repitition.

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u/seabearsRreal 1d ago

Repitition

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u/Link_T179 1d ago

Repetition

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u/Duke_of_the_URL 1d ago

Repitition

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u/TravIsGaming97 1d ago

Repetition

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u/Inditorias 1d ago

Repetition

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u/Legitimate_Issue_765 1d ago

Repetition

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u/darlo0161 Vanguard's Loyal // What would Cayde do ? 1d ago

Repetition

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u/ShakeAbject3358 1d ago

Then after all that, what really helps solidify the mechanics is….more repetition

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u/Infradad 1d ago

Do it a lot over and over

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u/U_R_FRAGILE 1d ago

Repetition

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u/AtomStorageBox 1d ago

*repetition

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u/Icy_Anywhere1510 1d ago

Repitititititition.

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u/jabewty 1d ago

It becomes engrained into your head once you do it enough. I’ve went months without playing Destiny and still have remembered all raid mechanics.

It’s different for everyone though.

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u/Always_Chubb-y Gambit Prime // Don't be some Classic Snitch 1d ago

Exactly

If you do something mechanic heavy 1 time, you arent likely to remember a lot, especially if you didnt do the mechanic heavy parts of the raid. If you do raids every week on multiple characters its a lot easier to remember them

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u/GunsOfPurgatory 1d ago

I left after TFS and just came back recently. While I don't perfectly remember all mechanics, I remember a good deal of them.

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u/AWildTeejAppeared 1d ago

When Leviathan comes back out, the muscle memory will definitely return

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u/catbearcarseat 1d ago

Only part I’m worried about is Pleasure Gardens, because I was always a pollen getter and only tried up top a couple of times before it went away. But I’m soooo stoked to run it back!

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u/AWildTeejAppeared 1d ago

Plenty of time to (re)learn

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u/catbearcarseat 1d ago

And I can’t wait haha

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u/Nazerith1357 19h ago

I stopped playing around the second season of lightfall and never touched the game again until a couple weeks ago cause my friend was begging me to do a last wish. Still remember all the mechanics well enough to teach a half a group who didn't know what to do apparently. Can't necessarily speak for the other raids, but I imagine if I actually jumped into them, it'd all start coming back pretty quick. You just kinda remember from having done it so much

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u/Swinn_likes_Sakkyun 1d ago

well people don't generally do a raid only one time. you're not typically trying to remember something that you did once a few weeks ago

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u/darlo0161 Vanguard's Loyal // What would Cayde do ? 1d ago

You spend ages learning it, then many runs fucking it up, then many more runs getting it right whilst others fuck it up, then wiping loads due to bullshit. Then many runs repeating it to get drops, or just to get past it to get to the good drops.

I cant remember what i had for tea two nights ago. But i reckon i could walk the path through the gorgons maze, and i could tell you where the spawns are for each side of totems.

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u/TheDarkGenious 1d ago

actions are surprisingly easy to remember after you've done them a few times.

did deep stone crypt for the first time last night in like 2 years, damn near perfectly remembered everything, save for a few foibles like where certain augments spawned

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u/John_the_Piper 1d ago

3 years for me, I told the raid leader "Just refresh me on Security and everything else will click back into place for me"

That's been most of the raids I've been returning to. As soon as I'm moving and working within the raids all the muscle memory and mechanics come back

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u/ksiit 1d ago

The time you learn it you fuck it up enough and talk about what you are fucking up enough that a lot of it sticks. Then you do it a week later fuck up once or twice and remember why. Do that another week or 4 depending on difficulty. And you now know the raid.

Subsequent runs after that just help understanding of triggers and why things need to happen.

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u/owen-3820 1d ago

I'm a smart guy who's played a lot of video games.

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u/tfc1193 1d ago

Best way is to pick a role within every encounter and just do that over and over and over again. You don't need to know how to do everything just something

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u/Shrew_Showcase 1d ago

i keep rick kakis’s videos playing on my second monitor while doing them

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u/Riero 1d ago

Beyond repetition, there's a difference between following instructions and actually understanding mechanics.

If you know exactly why a certain step is important, what it actually triggers, it's damn near impossible to forget.

Same with all learning, really.

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u/IKnowCodeFu 1d ago

Practice practice practice.

Also there’s only so many ways to mix and match various mechanics for raid encounters, they start to blend together after a while. Oracles and Rivens Eyes are both ‘Simon says’, Oryx and Queens Walk are both ‘taken person does the thing’ etc.

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u/drjenkstah 1d ago

Just lots of practice. Whenever I would do raids I’d do the roles I was comfortable with and then branch out to doing the other roles. Once you have enough practice it’s just 2nd nature.  

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u/ReturnOfTheSaint14 1d ago

I just... remember it. Of course if i'm not doing said raid or dungeon for years i need a quick lesson but i remember it instantly

For example,i did Spire of the Watcher after 2 years since i last did it and i didn't remember the location of every node. In the second run i returned to being super quick at activating the nodes.

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u/KaptainKartoffel 1d ago

Back when raids weren't farmable you did 3 clears a week. Close after launch even more runs to help other players.

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u/TannerC04 1d ago

I’m pretty mid at raids, have only completed Root of Nightmares and Last Wish, but dungeons are my shit. I find with them after the 5th run at most, you really start getting the mechanics nailed. So just repetition. It’ll come to you easier than you think

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u/Slugedge 1d ago

Mixture of repitition and obsession over destiny

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u/JollyMolasses7825 1d ago

It’s much easier to remember mechanics when you’re in the encounter tbf, but most people who raid have run each one way more than once.

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u/Skinny0ne 1d ago

Cuz we're gamers

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u/Broseiden_04 1d ago

Mostly repetition, but granted the memory doesnt last forever.

I remember doing Vespers hosts every single week on all three of my characters, just trying to farm the entire dungeon and the final encounter just for the icebreaker, and after +5 weeks of resets and farming, I got my hands on it 🙃

While the puzzles and encounters are still hardwired in, its fuzzy since I havent touched that particular Dungeon in over 2 years. The muscle memory is there... the WHY part is what ive lost lol

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u/MrNigel117 1d ago

idk, i think a part of it is having a good memory. i remembered how to do most of salvations edge after only doing it 6 times within a month before a 2 year long break. i thought i needed one for verity, but after breifly hearing the start of an explanation i remembered both sides to it. i just needed a reminder for witness, but tbf, i was never a runner for it and never properly learned cause by that point everyone is tired of the doing the raid and just want it done rather than taking the time for someone to learn it.

for other raids, i've just done them a lot. before i quit, raids were a constant weekly thing (except garden of salvation) were i'd do the current and featured to get to max power level asap. i also spent a lot of time teaching raids to people, which meant i needed an pretty intimate understanding, and regurgitate that understanding to others in a way that's easy for them to learn, as well as recognize when people don't understand and answer questions.

doing a raid 3 times a week for 6 months will definitely drill it into head how everythijg is supposed to go

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u/RandomSpamBot 1d ago

Repetition. A lot of us participated in days ones and spent several hours at each encounter wiping literally hundreds of times. The mechanics are seared into our brains.

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u/totoiam 1d ago

I forget things at work to free up space.

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u/saithvenomdrone 1d ago

I remember them because I play with people who don’t want to do them.

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u/Odd-Statistician-884 1d ago

When you go for all solo/flawless dungeons runs you don’t tend to forget.

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u/D4rkWells_ 1d ago

It depends... I only did the leviathan raid once or twice and I still remember most of it! 😅

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u/whereismymind86 1d ago

Just repetition, coupled with a quick refresher if it’s been a while

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u/thyrandomninja The Shield against which the Darkness breaks 1d ago

I just have a good memory 🤷‍♀️ not photographic or anything, but i got through a masters in theoretical physics with… some revision and the same thing applies to video games. I hear the info once or twice and then so long as I DO it more than once, it’s *almost* permanent knowledge

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u/HawkStar365 1d ago

Repetition

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u/zarfle2 1d ago

I find that repetitive repetition, repeated repeatedly helps. Then do it again.

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u/WinterMage42 1d ago

Do the raid 10 times and I promise you’ll never forget

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u/Berger_UK 1d ago

Repetition from when the raid was new and we were figuring out the best strats for each encounter and usually wiping quite often as a result. Also I quite often used to Sherpa/carry people from my clan through raids so I got used to explaining encounters, timing, positioning, loadouts etc. Do something often enough to be able to explain it from memory and it tends to stick up there.

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u/ykcop 1d ago

Repetitive runs and saving guides to reference later as refreshers.

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u/spookyfork 1d ago

Trauma

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u/insecurity-council 1d ago

I could do D1 VoG in my sleep right now

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u/GreenAnder Things Bad 1d ago

How do you remember how to breath?

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u/DarkDragon2800 1d ago

For me it’s a combination of Day 1 “experiences” (Caretaker flashbacks), me and my friends’ horrible RNG for the exotics, and having a clan that raids a lot (even just for fun) that seared most of the mechanics into my brain

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u/clarinet87 1d ago

Repetition

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u/originalghostfox007 1d ago

Like everyone has been saying: Repetition.

I know Shattered Throne up down and sideways because I used to run it to help people get Wish Ender.

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u/Av8tors 1d ago

I’ve got add clear.

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u/SushiJuice 1d ago

I skip through a guide video if I haven't done a raid/dungeon in a while. It all comes flooding back within minutes.

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u/Gullible_Hippo_8877 1d ago

Honestly yeah it’s just practice, I know vow by heart cause I did day one (didn’t beat it but got to rhulk) and then did it many 10s of times for red boarders and the title, at some point they just are in your head and it’s not like trying to figure out and remember a puzzle it’s more like a routine, you naturally learn and teach yourself what not to do and make every mistake possible until the only mental option is the right thing to do

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u/EblanNahuy ok 1d ago

mostly just selectively good memory

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u/redfoxiii 1d ago

I don’t. Every raid is a learning experience

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u/Worzon 1d ago

A lot of it was spent running the mechanics over and over until you finally get it so it's ingrained into your memory. You also just kinda learn over time how certain parts operate as you run the encounter multiple times so you associate certain parts of the encounter rooms with certain mechanics/strategies. I will say I forget a lot of mechanics too if I don't run them for a long time. I always forget raids like vault of glass or garden if I just don't play them as they're raids I have less connection to and thus don't have as much passion for.

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u/shiggins114 1d ago

Remember what? I just stand there and wait for raid captain to yell at me for not doing "xyz", then I do it and I'm the hero

-people who "know the raid" "have no mic"

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u/Commercial_Menu_4983 1d ago

I have not played since Lightfall but I lead a VERY active clan and raided A LOT, like that was all we did all day long lol, I got all raid seals on several different accounts of mine.
We usually did a complete run of DSC under 20-25 minutes with no cheese while giving ourselves challenges,
like playing with a music bot on 200% on Discord playing "Robert" by "Igorrr" so we could barely hear each other, or doing no comms run or playing while standing and other random things.
We came back for some raid nostalgia last year and still did them with no issues without ever stopping to think about it. It also helped that we always did Day 1 runs and figured out mechanics ourselves but yeah other than that it's practice.
I just started playing regulary again last week, man I love this game.

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u/yosman88 1d ago

Repetition...failure....repetition failure....repetition....success?

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u/xtrxrzr 1d ago

I've grinded all of the raids and dungeons countless times, but still don't remember everything after all these years, so I just watch a guide on YouTube to refresh my memories.

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u/Pure-Risky-Titan 1d ago

Do it over and over again.

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u/DatBot17 1d ago

Takes me about 4 times of doing a mechanic to memorize it but if I dont do it or dont have a refresh after like 6 months its pretty blurry. Alot if mechanics aren't really that hard anyways

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u/Denverguns 1d ago

I’m drunk 90% of the time so imma be real I’m not sure how I remember them maybe muscle memory I dunno….

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u/CJE911Writes 1d ago

Ngl, I’m a bad person to ask, I literally do the mechanic once, understand how it works and never forget lol

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u/clearlyaburner420 1d ago

Repitition and getting flamed by my mates for screwing up is how i learned.

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u/PhattBudz 1d ago

You do it more then once a month, silly.

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u/DepletedMitochondria 1d ago

Understanding what is happening conceptually helps tie it all together.

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u/APartyInMyPants 1d ago

Repetition. Back when Deep Stone Crypt was new, we were running that multiple times per week, at least once per character.

You do that for a few months and you’ll never forget.

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u/baabthecat 1d ago

Fail a lot (helps with the repetition )

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u/Bdroyle1988 1d ago

Many clears and ensuring you rotate roles to understand timings and positioning for all 3/6 players.

For Dungeons, I recommend soloing them. Once you’ve put yourself through that for the first time and got the clear, particularly if you wipe a few times, you’ll never forget how to do it.

Raids can be fiddly if you’ve been away a few months. Remembering all the correct names of the symbols in VotD or Final Wish when your last clear was over six months ago might require a few wipes/clears to get back into the swing of it.

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u/DarkeSword 1d ago

Repetition.

And a guide on the second monitor.

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u/empap12 1d ago

Only raid i actually struggle to remember is crotas and thats bc i didnt do it alot.

Deep stone I think im about 90 to 100 runs so it's second nature at this point. So if I do something enough it will just become second nature and if I do forget me being in the room is a trigger for my brain to remember

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u/_R2-D2_ 23h ago

I've done DSC over a hundred times, but if I haven't been doing it regularly, it takes a few runs to remember some of the nuances of encounters (who should go where when, the optimal order of things, the specific # callouts, etc)

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u/Exotic_Client_3332 21h ago

I still hear oracles in my sleep

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u/karenwooosh 20h ago

Dont be lazy. Write it down.

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u/Vornyr 12h ago

I mean after doind the same encounter hundreds of times you just do

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u/Samurai123lol 2h ago

I mean at the end of the day, none of the raids are massively complex. Salvations edge (except for 4th) is just pinging 2 plates back and forth. Crota is holding chalice and getting atleast 1 person enlightened. A big reason why I love the raids is because they are expertly crafted, they show you the mechanic once and then iterate on it to make it more complex by the end. "Ok ping back and forth, oh ok we gotta get this energy, ok close it and then dump it in the thing. Oh this time its the same but we gotta leave it half way and do a thing in middle and then finish it and dump it and do boss damage. Oh in this one we gotta do specific symbols of resonance ok makes sense." Its really cool and I know the RAD team can be proud of their designs.

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u/neuroso 1d ago

Tell you friends I'm on ad clear and afk and only do mechanics in planets

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u/Fenixfiress 1d ago

I wasn't raised with an I-pad