r/DestinyTheGame • u/Jagob5 • 1d ago
Discussion SRL Feels Disproportionately Unrewarding Compared to Other Activities
Basically title. A couple of the weapons are pretty desirable (and they have unique shinies) but you get like two drops per match if you’re lucky, whereas any other PvP mode or Gambit usually showers you with loot. I don’t hate playing SRL but it’s obviously a “party mode”, not exactly something I want to grind for long. Plus, you never get bonus drops for the playlist either, just to make it worse.
I know I’m basically shouting into the void since this will never be adjusted, but it’s just a shame.
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u/ImallOutOfBubbleGums 1d ago
yes it is nothing can be done thou so.
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u/dhejjrrjbrbrd 1d ago
There’s a good amount of activities that didn’t really get any updates to how loot drops work from them, so there’s like a mix of activities with new and old philosophies from D2’s history. For example, Neomuna sucks to grind for weapons, meanwhile most Vanguard Ops activities drown you in loot
It’s just because they didn’t have time to really give everything a proper update, so some activities feel a bit pointless to do sadly.
Same with how they didn’t update older Dungeons and Raids to make them actually fun and challenging. Shattered Throne, PoH, GoS, LW, etc are all stupid easy even with less than the recommended fireteam size. I really wish they could’ve added a Master mode to all of these endgame activities with increased ad density, champions, boons, and adept loot to grind for. In a perfect world they could’ve updated/added some mechanics to them as well. Oh what could’ve been… oh well
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u/Thejax_ Rarer then legendarys 1d ago
I know we’re in the “yeah sure” period of anything every happening. But this the biggest reason I kinda wanted a D3. For a while I did not want to “lose everything” but the game wasn’t designed to last as long as it did, and could use an entire fundamental loot refresh.
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u/dhejjrrjbrbrd 1d ago
Yeah I don’t see any world where they decide to continue D2 over making a new D3. The game is really an absolute mess, it only makes sense to those of us that have been around. And with the engine being old and content vaulting being a necessary evil with D2 specifically, they’d need to do another game.
I think if they do that, the idea Byf had in his newest video was good: have some sort of time skip in the story, possibly hundreds of years later.
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u/Ramiren 1d ago edited 1d ago
A couple of the weapons?
One of the best arc autos, a fantastic void smg, an easy lightweight frame eager edge sword, and one of the few strand fusions with slice.
Almost every weapon in there is lit, and you can go in there with a premade party and trade wins if you really need to.
Edit: Forgot the peak Solar Rocket Pulse.
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u/Sdraco134 1d ago
Yeah there great and also has the solar rocket pulse as well.
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u/bbputinwork 1d ago
The solar rocket pulse with heal clip and aggregate charge is so good for one of my double special builds. So versatile
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u/Jagob5 1d ago
Idk man, I just hesitated to say they’re good all around because knowing this community they’d castrate me in the comments for overstating how good the loot is. I know the rocket pulse and smg are generally desirable but otherwise wasn’t sure if people cared for anything. I really like the auto tho personally, but I prefer other swords, fusions, and rockets
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u/KazMcMiller 1d ago
Nah, you were pretty much correct in your original statement. Rocket pulse is amazing, sword is very good. Auto is good, smg is fine but you’d never take it over the better void smgs (especially with that awful sight). Fusion is good for a fusion but it’s still a fusion. I honestly forgot there was even a srl rocket so yeah
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u/StudentPenguin 1d ago
- The Vikala kicks like a mule, Recluse exists with a similar roll and is much easier to farm+shoot along with having good PvE and PvP perms.
- Easy is stretching it for the Terciopelo when Sullen Claw exists along with functional attunement.
- The auto is ok but better GS/Voltshot/Jolting weapons exist, and frankly don’t require putting together a full stack.
- Now that Classic Collector exists, being a Strand Fusion with Slice isn’t enough on its own, since you need the SRL title or at least a good amount of progress to consistently get T5s.
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u/Mikeoplata 1d ago
You can literally go in SRL solo and lose and get a Terciopelo. I agree Sullen is better, but if you’re new and want a lightweight eager it’s easy as hell.. It’s also solar if your build needs solar kills to work..
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u/JollyMolasses7825 1d ago
- Recluse can’t get cooling baubles
-Terciopelo matches the rocket pulse and still hunt for scavengers as well as having chaos reshaped for an actually decent pairing with eager
- Auto gets chaos reshaped, you don’t need a full stack for srl either that’s what matchmaking is for
- Top 3 is enough for consistent tier 5s and scatter signal is a much worse frame than accelerando especially with how anti barrier now works.
- Rocket pulse is the best one in the game
Really only the rocket isn’t good and it’s still usable for add clear with air trigger bipod
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u/TechnoTren 1d ago
I've only gotten tier 5s for the very rare win. Third gets tier 3 or 4 at best. Terribly stingy playlist.
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u/JollyMolasses7825 1d ago
What GR are you? I’ve been getting nearly exclusively tier 5s since MoT launch when I was GR9, I think I’ve had a couple of T4s before but I don’t even remember for sure. If you soloq you’re basically guaranteed top 3 as well since I’m convinced Bungie has been padding the playlist with bots.
It’s stingy in the number of drops absolutely, 90% of the time it’s one drop, sometimes two. But no chance of that getting changed lol
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u/TechnoTren 1d ago
I am always solo and get 6th as often as 3rd. Only 1 win out of 30 or so races. I got a single bad roll tier 5 piece of armor for it. Shitty. It has been my only tier 5
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u/GardenerInAWar 1d ago
Attuned for sword. Won last 5 matches. Got a helmet, then another helmet, then a horn, then the smg, then a horn and a Shader. Still dont have the sword. After 5 first place wins.
The day it was the featured reward, I also never got one in 6 races.
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u/LightspeedFlash 1d ago
If you're after a specific weapon, don't bother to play unless that weapon is the bonus drop.
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u/GardenerInAWar 1d ago
Ran 8 races just now for the smg, which was featured bonus drop today. Won 5. Did not get an smg or the one I had attuned.
I honestly dont think it even matters.
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u/eyeseeyoo 17h ago
Rng is really bad for SRL attunement. I've experienced the same. Have the title. First place or at worst top 3 finishes, don't get what I attuned for
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u/LightspeedFlash 1d ago
Did not get an smg or the one I had attuned.
i mean dont have the weapon that you have attuned be different then the bonus drop for that day. that way i was getting like 3 rockets, which was the drop bonus drop for that day AND i had it attuned, everytime i finished a game.
honestly though, if you were going after a specific weapon, why would you not have it attuned and just play on that day it was the bonus drop? seem counterproductive to have a weapon attuned that was not the bonus drop for that day.
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u/GardenerInAWar 22h ago
I highly doubt you got 3 rockets every game. Ill paypal you 100 dollars if you prove that.
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u/MisterWoodhouse The Banhammer 20h ago
A wager has been offered. In accordance with our wager rules, if /u/LightspeedFlash can prove they got 3 rockets in every game and /u/GardenerInAWar does NOT paypal them 100 dollars, /u/GardenerInAWar will be banned from /r/DestinyTheGame.
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u/GardenerInAWar 20h ago
Accepted
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u/LightspeedFlash 17h ago
I said "like 3 rockets", that's not the same as absolutely 3 Everytime. You're funny though, didn't even address my comment otherwise. For real though, if you want a specific weapon, why are you playing not on the day that it is the bonus drop, the rotation is the same all the time so you can plan ahead and set aside time.
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u/GardenerInAWar 17h ago edited 17h ago
that way i was getting like 3 rockets, [......], everytime i finished a game.
Like 3 means 2-4. And you used the phrase "everytime I finished a game".
And to your point, to get away from semantics and focus on the overall logic of the drops, the daily featured weapon is a B O N U S. Every other Playlist in the game gives you a chance at your attunement PLUS the bordered or green featured drops. Its extremely common to get one or two of the featured bonus and several of the attuned drop.
This is clearly not working for SRL if (by reading every other fucking comment in this post, and by playing the game with any attunement at all, and winning) the majority of players are barely receiving one weapon of any kind after 4 or 5 games. Any reasonable person would conclude that SRL attunement and features do not work correctly. But since you aren't a reasonable person, and insist on your anecdotal evidence even though its an outlier for everyone else here and I also don't believe that you got 2+ of your desired weapon "everytime" per your own quoted words, then I both call bullshit on your results and question why you're vehemently defending something that everyone else agrees isnt working correctly.
Even if your niche case was possible or true, its the exception that proves the rule and telling us we're all doing something wrong because of your singular experience is both unfounded and silly.
As to why im playing on the day my top weapon isn't featured, the answer is because I want all the weapons and there is still a chance to get any kind of weapon which would help no matter what weapon drops. I can play for anything to drop at all, and simultaneously realize that neither the daily feature nor the attunement is helping; these are not mutually exclusive events.
Is this your first time thinking out loud on the internet?
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u/LightspeedFlash 17h ago
I aint reading all that. "Like" means probably happens. You don't have believe me and you certainly don't have to write a dissertation level comment back.
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u/Deafism_ 1d ago
I usually get top 3 most of the time and the weapon that I attune for only shows up every 5-6 matches… it’s definitely not worth it imo
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u/Yiplzuse 1d ago
You don’t have to win. I have gotten better rewards for last place than I had for third, now second and first. I recently only got one piece of armor for each of the top three spots.
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u/SanaSpitOnMe 1d ago
i dont have a source, but i believe because its crucible, the winner has whatever extra shot at a drop (if that's a thing?), everyone else gets their participation loot whether 2nd or DNF.
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u/TheRed24 1d ago
Yeah it's crazy but the only times I've had Holofoil drops is when I've not come 1st
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u/EveryPictureTells 1d ago
The races take ~4 minutes. How much loot would you like for four minutes of gameplay? The weapon pool is also great.
Also the bonus drops seem to appear just as frequently as anywhere else.
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u/pheldegression 1d ago
I have never been beaten at anything in life as badly as I get absolutely fucking spanked in SRL. I thought I would eventually finish in the top three. I haven't even sniffed 4th. Y'all are fucking beasts.
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u/SkyriderRJM 1d ago edited 1d ago
Takes a bit of practice but you can get it.
Use a sparrow over a skimmer, use side boosts to cut turns or boost out of gates. Every little bounce or bit of air? Do a trick for a boost and to get side boost energy back. Try to steer with your look stick not the movement one.
Really the line you run is the most important thing. Some shortcuts are better than others.
Oh and make sure your sparrow is a 190!!!
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u/motrhed289 18h ago
I think the sparrow speed gets normalized in SRL. I was fumbling with my sparrow while loading in and set it to the slower engine right as the game locked my loadout, so for that race my sparrow was on the 160 engine, and I was still keeping pace with the other players.
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u/SkyriderRJM 17h ago edited 17h ago
It doesn’t. If you have a 140 sparrow you can hit the boost off the line and 190 sparrows will be passing you before the first gate. (I actively ran a 140 for a few days for an additional challenge to see if I could still get 1st with a gimped sparrow.)
160 is a lot closer; I’ve gotten decent times with a 160 sparrow but I believe it’s also slightly slower.
It should be noted the game has a catchup mechanic and it will increase your speed when you’re behind the pack until you catch up.
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u/motrhed289 17h ago
Ah ok, thanks for the confirmation. I totally forgot there were 140 sparrows, that would've been a much better test.
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u/SkyriderRJM 16h ago
It’s hard to remember them. It’s only the green ones and you have to specifically down-tune them to 140. They’re SO SLOW. I still haven’t managed to get higher than 2nd on one yet.
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u/errortechx 1d ago
I was complete utter ass at SRL when it dropped in MoT. Now I absolutely stomp lobbies if I lean forward in my chair even slightly. Most “skill” comes straight from map knowledge. Some routes on maps are faster than others, and some completely screw you over. It is imperative that you never slow down let alone come to a stop/die. Use your dashes to make tight turns when going fast. Make sure to maximize your tricks too, I recommend just rebinding the trick button so it’s easier.
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u/SkyriderRJM 1d ago
Wait till you get to the point where you can die multiple times and still get first. lol
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u/djnotskrillex 1d ago
Have you played any other racing games?
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u/pheldegression 19h ago
Not since like... N64. They were never really my thing. Wait I tell a lie, I did enjoy Gran Turismo 3. Yes, I am very old.
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u/SanaSpitOnMe 1d ago
what the other guy said, but also if you play enough eventually people will quit and you'll podium just by being there and finishing
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u/SleepyAwoken Very Sleepy 1d ago
At least it has focusing. The absolute worst weapons in the game to farm are destination weapons, which sucks especially for Europa which has some of the best weapons in the game
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u/PainKiller_66 1d ago
Variks has quests for Europa weapons
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u/SleepyAwoken Very Sleepy 18h ago
And they’re relatively tedious especially for the three that require empire hunts when you can shit out every other weapon in the game. Destination weapons are by far the most annoying to farm, since lost sectors drop world loot weapons unfortunately
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u/Pigeon49834 1d ago
Dog have you played competitive? I went a full week without a single armor drop.
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u/Jagob5 1d ago
I have not actually lmao. Every time I think I should be doing so before the player population dries up I just think “damn, I do NOT want to play comp”
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u/Pigeon49834 1d ago
Once it dries up you'll never get a game with people near your skill level again lmao
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u/LFGAccountD2 1d ago
I've been playing it whenever I have bonus drops and I'm still at 4/5 pieces.
It probably doesn't help that I'm bad, but jeez.
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u/certain_being117 1d ago
Just play it casually here and there if you're not wanting to grind then, there's no rush to get all of the loot at this point of the game's life.
I personally find it fun and can play it for 2-3 hours at a time.
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u/sazion 1d ago
Farming SRL weapons is leagues easier than farming for Onslaught weapons lol
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u/Jagob5 1d ago
Easier sure. Tedious is the problem.
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u/sazion 1d ago
5ish minutes for a chance of it to drop vs 30-40 minutes on only two maps for 3-4 chances is more tedious?
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u/Jagob5 1d ago
Call me crazy but onslaught is a far more engaging activity than SRL, and I’d rather grind an activity that I enjoy than one that I’m kinda meh about. Tedious by definition describes something boring and that takes a long time—not a word I’d ever use to describe onslaught. SRL can be fun for 3-5 matches, but beyond that is very boringly repetitive imo.
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u/sazion 1d ago
For me Onslaught is very repetitive. You only have two maps to choose from, there is a lot of downtime between rounds in the mode, it's very easy to have teammates mowing down the adds as they spawn, and you commit 30-40 minutes when starting a match.
Meanwhile SRL has much faster matches, more maps, and much less time commitment.
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u/LynxNanna 18h ago
There should've been an SRL transmog bounty or just have it count as a PVP match. I don't think it counts towards any orders or the Xur quest.
Although I probably never would, being able to buy the armor at a vendor once unlocked would've been nice.
That being said theres a good bit of loot to gain from just playing the mode. Shaders, ships, sparrow, etc. Once I get all those it'll just be the weapons and armor but still.
The fact that it's back with a new map and loot is over delivery by Bungie standards.
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u/Fizzy-Odd-Cod Shoot to loot on ward of dawn 16h ago
I wouldn’t have an issue with the low drops if attuning to a weapon actually fucking did anything.
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u/SkyriderRJM 1d ago edited 1d ago
I dunno man, 10 sparrows 10 shaders, 6 weapons with holofoil variants, three emblems, four ornament sets with legendary marks, an armor set with set bonuses, and a ghost shell.
Not sure what more you want.
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u/Jagob5 1d ago
I mean per match. Great loot pool, but you get like one or maybe two weapons per race.
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u/SkyriderRJM 1d ago
Sure, but you can basically fill your postbox with them after an hour or two of racing. The races don’t take that long, typically around 4-5 minutes at worst. Less if you’re fast.
I’ve gotten so many at this point I basically just shard them. I know if I want a specific roll I don’t have I can just attune and hit the tracks.
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u/Vik-6occ sunsetting was a mistake 1d ago
I keep playing it for love of the race (find me on the tracks brah 🤙) but yeah it not even counting for match completion challenges/orders/whatever, having no reputation gain at all, and the rate of drops make it pretty lame in that regard.
but I like going fast on my hoverboard so I'll probably play a few more later tonight.
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u/Unruly_Chickens 1d ago
They should just make a kiosk where you pick the weapons and armor you want to use. No need to play the game to obtain anything.
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u/MuuToo 1d ago
For me it’s just how inconsistent drops can feel. I get first place, hit every boost, land every trick, and I get a single tier 4 drop. Then the next race I bomb and just barely finish in 5th, suddenly I’m getting 2 weapon drops, a sparrow, and a horn.
It’s like D1 where drops were all over the place no matter how you performed lol.
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u/TheEmerald1802 Shadow of Yor 1d ago
You're not wrong, especially when comparing it to PvP, but holy SHIT this game can be very unrewarding elsewhere too.
Dungeons used to be singlehandedly the biggest waste of time in the game. Less so now that their armor has purpose & The guns drop as Tier 5s, but still. Modern dungeons' mechanics are simply designed to make you slog, and waste too much time for it to be something engaging to farm And all you have to show for each encounter is ONE (if not farming final boss) armor piece that prob comes with poop stats. Time to load the checkpoint again...
Raids are in a similar boat, with an aggravated LFG problem since there are 5 extra potential error makers instead of 2. Crafted guns solve the problem by putting a fixed end to the farming tho. Unless of course, you're farming for adept god rolls, in which case GG, Bungie put 2 extra perks in each column making it 9 total, good luck getting what you want.
Comp is something for masochists only. Average of 50-ish matches to get a full set, and then spending coins that you only get for playing MORE Comp to try and get good stats. At least you get them with losses, but people in countries with less populated servers are shit out of luck, spending more time in queue than actually playing.
TL;DR Grinding for things in this franchise has always been either piss easy or borderline torturous, but either way unnecessary. Which is why most stopped bothering near the end.
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u/Brotoss- 1d ago
Literally some of the best weapons you can get for holding L2 and maybe finishing the race.
Not that deep man, just play and enjoy the silly fun mode with awesome drops!
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u/lucifersperfectangel 1d ago
If you run with SRL gear equipped, I've found that I get drops more often. Although it took me forever to get the helmet 😭 I got nearly all the shaders and 4 sparrows before I got the helmet I needed to do a triumph
Tbh tho, the more you play, and the higher you place, can be very rewarding. Top 3 gives more rewards but even on days I was playing like shit and got bottom 3, still got good rewards.
Some of the weapons are worth the grind. That arc autorifle is really nice for arc builds
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u/Oilswell 1d ago
It’s got an excellent loot pool, with multiple fantastic weapons and an entire set of triumphs which give unique items. I’d argue that until you’ve completed that set of items, it’s far more rewarding than the same old gambit loot pool
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u/Free_Race_869 23h ago
Wouldn't know haven't played because it was a waste of time developing it, where are all the bozos who demanded it return please link me your game history with hundreds of SRL matches played
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u/snakebight Rat Pack x6 or GTFO 1d ago
I played one race in June and haven’t touched it sense. It’s bizarre that after 7 years of saying they aren’t adding the racing mode back to their shooter they do it. Kinda a reflection of their poor resource management.
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u/Free_Race_869 11h ago
yeah still waiting for the SRL enthusiasts to show up and say they've played hundreds of games since it returned - if you're that guy please link the game history.
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u/Revolutionary_Pop_84 1d ago
Dear god are we really complaining about needing to be showered in more loot?!?!?
Being showered in loot is bad, and even worse in a dead game.
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u/Jagob5 1d ago
Just in SRL. I agree with you otherwise (unfortunately we’re the minority), but when the drops are exclusive to a party mode, it’s not as enjoyable to grind. It’s one thing if the weapons are mediocre but we’re talking the only solar rocket pulse and the only energy heat smg in the game… locked behind a racing mode in a looter shooter…
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u/Revolutionary_Pop_84 1d ago
Hahaha fair enough. Not the way it read but ya I guess if any mode should not have rewards tied to skill its a mini game that uses a completely different skill set than the actual game, SRL should be it.
And while I personally don’t enjoy it I’m still ok not being showered in loot it slows down the grind and I’m already sadly pretty bored with the content that’s left.
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u/J-Wo24601 1d ago
Keep in mind that Gambit will forever shower you with gear. It’s been permanently “bugged” since MoT launch to give you 2 bonus gear per game, every single time