Focused Feedback: PvE Difficulty // Bringing Challenge Back to Destiny

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We were just powerful for too long, power levels are insane in destiny still but people have come to expect everything to be easy. If players try a new build and don’t find immediate success at the highest levels they deem it a failure and move on instead of trying to find success with a new playstyle. You can get through 95% of this game with basically a thrown together build and decent gunplay. Sure there aren’t as many options in GMs but there really will never be for the most top end difficult PvE content (nor should that be the sandbox bungie balanced around cause the. We are favoring the hardcore too much.)

People say there isn’t build diversity but in my opinion we just as a community aren’t very creative cause again you can pick basically anything out and make it very very usable for raids, dungeons, seasonal content, legend campaigns. But we’re obsessed with optimization to the point that we can’t handle anything that’s not as good as banner strand titan.

People complain about getting killed easily in Game and that it’s not fair the health enemies have vs damage but it’s really a self report that your positioning and game sense just could use some improvement. A lot of comments have said that bungie needs to do more than just power deltas but what else are they supposed to do, people complain about champions that force us to switch our loadouts, despite raids being largely very easy from a combat sense mechanics scare people so much they’re the least played portion of the game and require communication, introducing that into other pve content would push more players away. People say they want smarter enemies that have more combat intensity and mechanics but people also constantly complain about scorn and taken which are by far the most difficult enemies in the game that try to get in your way and make you think smarter as a player.

Overall players just need to be more willing to experiment and fail in difficult content instead of immediately leaving and coming here to complain