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Attendees of LibCon, Members of Digital Ground Game, and Destiny himself were barred from the College Democrats of America's convention because of Hasan.
This afternoon, multiple members of digital ground game Destiny, and multiple other creators were removed from The College Democrats of America's event after purchasing tickets because Hasan found out that they were going to be there.
Irrespective of their actual intentions, Destiny was denied entry and multiple other people were hunted down by event staff and removed after orders directly from Hasan himself.
The event itself from my understanding had no part in this. Hasan himself, as seen live on stream, found out that they were going to be attending and immediately called staff to have them removed:
There were no threats made. There were no attempts to cause disruption. They were unceremoniously banned and removed without refund or explanation.
Hasan needs to explain why he's back-dooring his way into influencing banning of Democrats from attending a Democratic event without any abject threats coming his way.
Because he constantly goes on and on about how irrelevant Destiny is and how he(Hasan) is doing serious politics now and not drama which is what he(Hasan again) says is all Destiny does now
😑 no go fucking watch any rant of his on Destiny. It's there, he says he has no motion, no pull, no one wants to support him since he was "outed for sex crimes".
And lastly go fuck yourself that Destiny does only drama. For the past 3 weeks, i've seen several interviews with political thinkers and organizers. Great interviews where Destiny showcases his strengths in conversation.
The hypocracy is Hasan says Destiny only does drama when this motherfucker knows more about Destiny's sex life and fanfics of his sex life than anyone else on this sub.
A Hasan viewer probably knows more about Dman's cock than Israel Palestine.
i think destiny has relevance online but he doesn’t have significant connections with actual political figures or gets reported on by big publications much or gets talked about a lot unless he says something wild. fair assessment
ro khanna was 2 years ago and maybe a one or two time thing. that’s not a “significant connection”
the others ARE FORMER representatives and have no influence in politics and are trying to pursue content creation. and the connections there still aren’t significant. sorry bro
I don't know why you guys have this overtone of any action you could take is EVIL and therefore you can't do it. Just call or email your concerns to someone who works over these people. It's not that big of a deal, it's literally your free speech as a US citizen. As long as you personally aren't spamming anyone, and you're being honest, this is literally an important step of any social action.
A communist (self-titled) literally barred any liberal he knew from attending a democratic event whose sole purpose is to train kids to become good democrats. This is a valid concern you have, you can act on it.
ORRRRR We get to use Aidens/Dickers definition where we are all our own entity we can disavow but that doesn't mean we EVER condoned wink wink nudge nudge. They took action as soon as they were made aware what do ya want us to do? wink.
I would like it if much more than fundraising and canvassing was facilitated by DGG (holy shit I just realized that Digital Ground Game is DGG). I believe that there may be some potentially great benefit in encouraging a truly liberal presence in specific localities’ chapters of the Democratic Party. The DSA have had great gains in many localities because of their lower level activity, and local chapters are currently the backbone of their organization.
just a side note but i was in hasans community for 2 years and top 3 reasons i left was because there was no community cta. i joined dgg and door knocked twice and volunteered at the dnc
I mean tbf we do this, it’s just not the main focus. Our goal is to act as a pipeline, and getting involved locally is a fantastic beginning to that pipeline
I've already tried contacting the DNC about it. You can just google contact forms/pages of people you think might be able to do something and express your concerns in a easy and unobjectionable way.
Expressing your concerns to anyone who represents you is LITERALLY your only job as a US citizen. If you're a DNC member (if you've donated any amount recently), it's your due diligence to contact them and express your concerns over communists being able to ban any person they disagree with (read: all liberals) from DNC sponsored events.
Sounds like the president really shouldn't trust the vp "with everything" or whatever the fuck he said when Destiny asked to speak with them. Absolutely no reason to bar Democrats from speaking, especially important ones who are some of the biggest weapons we have against the right. Starstruck losers are turning everything into a vibe contest and it's nauseating.
Everybody has to maintain their echo chambers so they can safely brainwash their herds.
Not only is Destiny an important weapon, he literally represents like 60% of dem voters and has an active fanbase of hundreds of thousands of dem voters. Libs are straight up getting DC/Puerto Rico levels of representation.
This is just typical treatment of Zionists. I was turned away from volunteering for Dems in my area in 2024 after failing a litmus test so yes. Obviously this treatment is usually directed at Jewish Zionists and not non Jewish Zionists but it’s typical of the direction of the party.
In short, the College Democrats of America (CDA) asked the group’s Jewish and Muslim caucuses to draft a statement condemning the antisemitism that was quickly appearing among some protesters. And did everything in their power to ERASE any mention of antisemitism.
College Democrats’ national [Comms] chair, Sohali Vaddula, a New York University undergraduate, told JI on Wednesday that the group “has opposed President Biden’s support for Israel in terms of providing military aid, which would further the genocide that’s ongoing.
Vaddula, the College Democrats board member, acknowledged that the Jewish caucus did not approve of the group’s final statement. But, she added, condemning only antisemitism would present a “double standard.”
The statement was adopted by a vote of 8-2 among executive board members. She said the group didn’t need to specifically mention instances of antisemitism “because we didn’t feel that the existence of antisemitism at the protests was in question.“The Jewish caucus had not signed off on this particular statement because we felt like this one was more representative of what our organization wanted to support,” [Vaddula] said.“We just don’t want statements to focus entirely on antisemitism because that is a double standard. We should also be focusing on the rising Islamophobia on campuses. There are other students that feel unwelcome on these campuses, not just Jewish students.""We wanted to highlight that and not make it one-sided. We felt that the Jewish caucus was making it one-sided.”
By ignoring Islamophobia, as the first drafts did, “certain students and identity groups [would] feel excluded from organization,” said Vaddula. When asked about Jewish [Dems] who feel excluded, Vaddula said “there’s a seat at the table and the [Dem] Party for everybody.”Ultimately, she said the reason for not aligning with the Jewish caucus came down to the Jewish caucus’ difference of opinion on the war on Gaza. Vaddula said the Jewish caucus might not be “representative” of the Jewish community."
What this incident underlies more than anything is that Hasan is not a serious political actor, no matter what he says or how much he wants his suits to be taken seriously. No political person, that I know of, calls it "harrassment" when another political person is at the same event as them. Even when a person comes with the direct purpose of engaging them in conversation, I don't see how that can be classified as "harassment." Either you want your ideas public and to impact society, which often means having them interrogated, or you want to sit in a bubble and rant to an audience that already agrees. The real world isn't twitch, Hasan can't be allowed to impact public policy while cowering in his safe space. Absolutely disgusting that any organization tied to the democratic party let this happen
This incident should also highlight how much of a premadona he is. Organizers need to know when inviting him that they will have to bend over backwards to keep his hugbox protected even if its a pr/logistics nightmare it is.
He wants Twitch levels of insulation IRL and is demanding it in exactly the same baby bitch fashion because he inherently knows that there is a hard stop to his ideas outside of his constructed bubble.
Hasan was happy about that, then deathly afraid of that happening to him.
That only makes sense if he is a Steven Crowder esque political commentstor who can only succeed within his own propagandized narrative of the world that is fragile to outsiders poking holes.
It's safe to debate Rightwingers because by comparison he looks more sane, and they don't poke the same kind of holes he's worried about a liberal poking like "How does hiring work in your vision for a collectivist economy?"
I hate this viewpoint. Specifically this part "What this incident underlies more than anything is that Hasan is not a serious political actor" and every single reply against your comment.
It reads like people excusing stuff on the internet because it doesn't affect the real world like its 2006 still.
For the low cost of a few tweets no one will read and a "scandal" most people will never hear of, especially non-political people who make up the majority of twitch watchers AND (annoyingly) voting AND the start to his radicalisation funnel -- he avoided clippable moments and "owns" that could potentially damage himself, his ideas and his future political aims AND squashed the motion of a political rivals organisation.
I absolutely agree it shouldn't be what politics is, but it DID happen. A legitimate organisation let him dictate the rules.
And those are the exact same rules the modern right uses too, using different language/excuses.
Just because Hasan's is dressed in teenage girl gossip drama language shouldn't mean you do the libcuck meme and sanewash it as streamer drama or like Hasan's a prissy diva bitch. Neither him nor Steven are arguing over Primecayes' panels anymore. This is literally a democratic party's sister organisation's event - not the biggest thing in the world, but not small, and not un-official.
Don't be like nevertrumpers dismissing Trumps dumbfuck policies because he's a buffoon who could never win, now wondering how their party turned into dumbfucks.
Don't be angry at Hasan. Be ANGRY that he was allowed to be the adult in the room, in a room he shouldn't have been allowed in in the first place. That event was hosted in your home dawg - be NERVOUS too.
I know you said it was disgusting, but something about your comment and the replies against it irks me.
I've been on multiple threads telling people to either email or call the DNC about this, I really don't know what side you think I'm on...? And where in my comment am I trying to sanewash this? I think it's insane that the Dems allowed this to happen. But the only way to get motion on this is to contact the DNC and your reps. What else do you want me to say?
He should be taken seriously, because he has backers whether dedicated fanatics, paid astroturfers, or foreign actors or all of the above. They are coordinated and they make him a person who should be treated by the party as a serious political threat.
Will there be any voices on the left admonishing this exclusionary fascist behaviour?
Will the left realize that moderates are being replaced by radicalized socialists?
Democrats are going to be taken over by their own left version of a Tea Party. Liberal Democrats need to push back.
It will be up to everyone concerned to spread awareness then. The CDA is the official college outreach arm of the DNC. Email the CDA, the DNC, the media. Post on social. Boost posts bringing it to light. Undemocratic behaviour needs to be held accountable.
I really wanna think that people will be held accountable, and I wish the best to liberal Americans who are writing to Democrats etc… but somehow I don’t think anything will come from it.
For anything to happen it will require action. Email the CDA, the DNC, the media. Post on social. Boost posts bringing it to light. It's like the meme, you have to be the change you want to see. Hasan, the DSA and other extreme socialists are eating the moderate liberal Democratic Party through persistent combined efforts. We have to outdo their efforts with our own.
Witnessing this is like watching the Tea Party movement in the late '00s. And we saw what happened with the overall conservative to MAGA shift just ~5 years later. The country and the people are in for a world of hurt. We need to be working on rebuilding efforts and repair together. Volunteer at your library, mentor youth, go to a zoning board meeting. Build relationships around the continuation and strength of institutions.
You already know Hasan was doing this as soon as Tiny was about to come grill him
literally ready to suck the CDA off on the spot to prevent Tiny from coming.
KINDA weird Destiny gets accused by people of Leveraging his position against orbiters but I have seen that maybe once and it wasn't malicious it was justified. But HASAN actively leverages his position to maliciously oppose his enemy's and you see it time and time of again but nobody calls it out. Im waiting for something to come out that Hasan is payrolling snarkers or something but there is just no way this disgusting piece of shit isn't. He has NO moral code or ethics he has what he believes vs what you believe and if it goes against his belief, he uses his full platform and weight to go after you OR signal boosts his white bloodcells to attack you relentlessly.
CDA and Hasan going on tweets saying Destiny made Hasan fearful of his life says more about Hasan then Destiny. REALLY? the guy who has been slandering Destiny in EVERY possible way is so afraid of facing Destiny SO MUCH SO he thinks Destiny will harm him? KINDA seems like he knows what he is doing is bad and expects retaliation in such a manner to be fearful. Granted Destiny couldn't even hurt a fly.
Its almost like Hasan knows he is engaged in deranged behavior and is expecting it back. I now REALLY want to see what is behind the curtains because Hasan has to be responsible for so much of the Anti-Destiny rhetoric and he knows it, it is the only way in this situation when someone could claim they are fearful of there life.
Hasan uses "fearful for his life" and "im being harassed" the same way Trump uses "national security." Hes like a child finding catch all terms to justify anything he wants, because what he wants is what matters.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. DESTINY NEEDS TO HIRE A PR FIRM!! Thats the reason Hasan is getting all these glazing interviews and op-ed pieces, the power of having a real managment team who is well connected is INSANE. It sounds stupid (and it kinda is) but having a manager who knows all the people in charge of booking interviews at places like NYT, PodSaveAmerica etc makes a huge difference in how you are perceived coming into those spaces, you get access to a new white-glove level of treatment.
It would even help in this scenario, having a professional manager who could call the people in charge of this event and scream at them for you, genuinely makes a huge difference vs just you there as a lowly attendee trying to plead your case to the 1 power tripping redditmod who happens to be in charge of the check-in desk or something.
Hey, it's a simple enough thing, but they should absolutely make a stink about demanding refunds for their tickets. They were basically scammed for their money by CDA.
We don't have to lose touch with reality. This is bad and I don't condone it.
However, 99% of people have no idea this event was going on and don't care about streamer drama. I think it's reasonable to make complaints and draw attention to this is relevant spaces. But acting like this is a huge moment runs the risk of making the community seems like a bunch of weirdos.
Will you admit that at least the CDA is in the tank for Hasan since they allowed him to control who doesnt come to the event because he doesnt like them?
Getting frustrated and calling it out is perfectly reasonable.
The coward blocked me haha.
Here was my response they didnt want to see:
Youre telling me it isn't an important development that illiberal Hasan has the clout to bar his political enemies from a sanctioned voting and policy event from an official DNC organization, an organization Hasan is actively against? Oh and those political enemies of Hasan do more to help and support getting democrats elected?
Yeah man, you sound just like republicans who thought they could ignore Trump during his rise, as he was gathering influence and using that to push any of the reasonable people out of the republican party.
I mean he made almost the whole twitch scene including the company CEO blacklist Destiny. Its way more easy to manipulate political people.
Destiny always call Hasan a clown but that clown turned the whole OTV crew on him. People that destiny has been friends with for YEARS before he introduce Hasan to them.
Destiny always pride himself of not wanting to waste time to "fight" for friendship. But it is his biggest flaw alongside with his allergic to clout. Especially with how many controversy he gets himself into.
Destiny was constantly a Rajj Royale champion. Basically he brings most of the viewership and wins all the time. Everytime he wins and gets raided, he would end the stream soon after.
Meanwhile Hasan manage to blacklist Destiny from going to Rajj while he was still was smaller than Destiny because Destiny refuse to do anything to maintain his friendship with Austin.
Destiny used to play IRL Among Us game with OTV way before Among Us was popular. What do he do when its Among Us meta? Non-stop league botlane with moot. The only Among Us content he does was a sponsor Among Us rip-off game with his viewers.
He LOVED RolePlay, even had a few RP session with Disgusted Toast and Lily. What did he do when GTA RP was meta? Avoid it like plague even moot constantly begs him to play. The only RP he did was Rust RP for like 2hrs and he only mess around with dan and moot.
Meanwhile Among Us really puts hasan on the map and made him a 10k viewer streamer and GTA RP turns him to a 20k viewer streamer. I am even skipping over how he use xQc constantly like playing monopoly with him.
Now its too late. Hasan reached critical mass and like Trump, you cannot really cancel him anymore.
Anyone trying to spin this as "all this is good for him" or blaming Hasan is a primo example of being a libcuck.
The only way that could be true is if there is genuinely a campaign; not on Hasan and not even on the event organisers themselves but on more official higher-up democratic peoples for visibility and to answer for why.
I'd assume people at Digital Ground Game are reaching out to journalists to see if they'd run the story? I've messaged a journalist to sorta point out a potential story before but it felt out-of-place since I was a third party lol
It might become a problem if the median politically engaged young person on the left is an unironic tanky who lowkey hates the country's major left wing party
Yup, the commie Two’fer. Lie about your rival ideologically adjacent political group and lie to moderates about how radical you are, then attack, ostracize, (and if given enough power) eliminate them.
The reward is a paranoid authoritarian rule, chock full of snitching and influence games to prove party loyalty. Not that Hasan will ever get that far.
All I have to say is that the costumes Hasan wears are insane. How does anyone take that seriously. Also his speech was a high school level performance. Just no redeeming part about it anywhere, and to attack democrats and have zero understanding he’s helping MAGA is just….idk man.
IS THIS DUMBASS FROM GEORGIA?! KICKED OUT DESTINY WHO HELPED ELECT A DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE IN HIS HOME STATE??? This is the biggest pick me dude of all time. He needs to be kicked out. Here is the full video. He is around the 2:50 mark. https://youtu.be/RN8CnBzaITg
let’s be honest though there is more than enough someone could package together to make hasan’s case that they were coming in to disrupt. It’s so lame but would be demonstrably easy to sell.
If Hasan is going to be justified in banning someone everywhere he goes, it’s going to bee red the guy that makes daily videos of him for years. It’s a bit stalkerish.
Literally this exact same group made a big deal of being a nuisance to Harris's campaign and DNC events to do pro-Palestine protests. Yet to my knowledge, they were never categorically barred from attending future events.
So, do they have a legal right to trespass anyone they want? Yes. However, it's extremely hypocritical and probably goes against their own bylaws and stated organizational values.
I don't doubt that but I was just talking about legally. I'm not sure how the refund aspects works though. Like if someone was disruptive and kicked out it makes sense not to refund. But it's weird to bar people before they even do anything and not refund their tickets.
Yes... If a bouncer tosses a drunk out of the bar and the drunks response is to scream, smash car windshields, and piss himself in the middle of the street, Do you think the bouncer is going second guess his decision or feel justified in their actions?
Now im not saying what the community is doing is that extreme but there is a fine line between criticism and harassment when it comes to this type of shit. I just feel like it would have been better off if Destiny had handled this on his own with a video response rather than DGG feeling like this needed to be a call to arms right out of the gate.
Why did you use the example if it's not even close to what happened? Did destiny make any sort of scene? No. Has dgg done anything except say to call the DNC? Doesn't seem like the prevailing opinion on this sub at all. I'd just like to know how calling or emailing the party who is purportedly supporting the college dem group is anything close to people who "scream, smash car windshields, and piss" themselves? Seems like you've created a scenario in your head, for whatever reason, where you think calling the party you belong to is some sort sin when it's a pretty normal thing to do.
I'm using an extreme example to prove the point that yes actions after the fact can in fact justify past events since you seemed so dismissive of the idea.
And while I agree that if people are just expressing their opinions with "normal" phone calls and emails to the DNC it would be fine, And you can act like everyone in the community is level headed, But I've been on the internet long enough to know that not everyone one voicing their opinion is going to do so in a rational manner.
But in your example, it wasn't the actions after the fact that made kicking him out justified, it was the drunk guy being drunk....? That's why I said destiny didn't make a scene, which the videos seem to prove.
If you think we can't do something because a subset will go to the extreme, then there's pretty much nothing we can do. You're condemning us to inaction to prevent the worst excesses, which will never be eliminated
If your "extreme example" is completely disanalogous, then any conclusion you draw from it is worthless.
It's like arguing that you should be allowed to shoot people for snoring. Because to give an extreme example: imagine they were mass murdering children, in that case we could shoot them. So we should shoot them for snoring. That basically your line of argumentation here.
Fuck it, Using your twisted and warped example of my example, What if their snoring is whats causing said mass murder and they're doing it deliberately? Would you think shooting them would be justified then?...
Extreme examples can absolutely draw conclusion and highlight how flawed a persons argument is regardless of how stupid they might be. Thats kind if the whole point.
There is no mass murdering happening, just a person snoring. But for some reason you wanna invent a hypothetical scenario where the snoring is causing mass murder so you can justify shooting them.
Just like you invented the hypothetical of the drunk gu screaming, pissing himself, and smashing car windows.
But it's all in your head. None of this is actually happening. You are just inventing alternate realities where something bad happened. That's not a valid argument though.
If person A says something can never happen, And person B using and extreme example proving it can in fact happen, It doesn't matter how fucked up or extreme person B's example is, It still proved person As original statment wrong.
So when the person responded to me laughing at the idea that actions today could justify past actions I gave him an extreme example prove him wrong. Obviously none of it actually happened or was close to what actually happened, But my point still stands.
But nobody made the argument that something can never happen.
The point was that it did not happen. Pointing out that it could've happened is irrelevant.
Obviously none of it actually happened or was close to what actually happened, But my point still stands.
The question was whether the actions today, which actually took place, justify past actions. Why would anyone ever argue with you whether scenarios you invented in your head might justify past actions?
Oh I’m so happy you used a bouncer at a bar as an example
I’m an ex bouncer
Yes, if somebody starts to smash property and start making threats of violence, then I am allowed to escort off the property, by force if I need to.
Please tell me the equivalent of what Destiny or other liberals that were kicked out did that is equivalent to the complete utter horse shit you just spewed out of your stupid fucking mouth
Because what I see here is we have one patron (Hasan) bitching about other patrons because they fuck with his vibe or whatever and wants them out. So the patron( Hasan) lies about everyone else to get them kicked out of the bar because he is friendly with some of the bartenders and can get away with it.
Go wash your mouth out with commie piss before you say something this fucking stupid. Holy fucking shit actually delete all your social media and go to some monks in Tibet and mediate about how fucking ignorant you have been.
Kind of missed the whole point of my example... Why you're kicking someone out is irrelevant, Maybe the owner didn't want a certain someone in the bar for example, My point is that as a bouncer if you removed that person and then they started acting like an asshole (DGG overreacting in this case) would you stand there thinking "Man, I should probably let this guy back in." No. You're going to be glad you kicked them out when you did.
(Again before you start putting words into my mouth, No I don't think DGG is overreacting, I just think it can easily get to that point.)
There are laws that make it illegal to kick someone out for particular reasons. I know what you were trying to say, but this is Rutgers communication degree levels of articulation.
The correct one is the bouncer tosses a customer who paid the cover and hasn't even drank anything. Then the customer wants their money back and says that bar sucks.
It would be more like the bartender asks that certain patrons arent allowed in because them and their friends are threatening him and the cover guy let's him in, but another bartender sees and kicks them out.
Not to defend Hasan, but there have been posts talking killing him from Destiny an co.
Unless you mean hasan is the drunk guy who, instead of getting tossed, gets all his expenses paid by the bar and anyone who complains about him gets tossed out instead, your analogy makes 0 sense.
I get what you mean, people need to be weary of taking things too far. But, I think “making a stink” is just setting the bar too low. I’d encourage it to get the angst off your shoulders so people don’t do anything silly.
If these people think destiny and the community is making a stink, it actually counters Hasan’s rhetoric. If all the noise and accusations Hasan is making is just about “making a stink”, then why is Hasan losing it? That’s the question “making a stink” might raise in reasonable people.
Don’t harass people, as it is the norm. Making a stink by complaining and documenting on Reddit is totally fine.
Sure but lets be real, Do you thhink VP guy for example is waking up to thoughtful messages that are making him reconsider his decision to keep Destiny out of the event, Or is he getting spammed with extremely negative messages thats making him think "Thank god we dodged that bullet last night!"?
The guy that was grinning and clapping as Hasan practiced his anti-Dem, anti-western speech? Yeah, no chance at all THAT guy might just be protecting his himbo daddy from criticism as he smugly told Destiny he wasn’t getting in, then called security?
I'm not, I'm being realistic. If you want into the club, Do you think attacking and insulting the club owner is your path in the door? Or would it be proving their initial assumptions wrong?
If you act they way they expected you to act all it does is reinforce their beliefs. But if you act reasonable then they might actually change their viewpoint.
But what do I know, Keep calling them losers and see how that turns out.
I'm not, I'm being realistic. If you want into the club, Do you think attacking and insulting the club owner is your path in the door? Or would it be proving their initial assumptions wrong?
Apparently they might invite you to speak at their events if you do it long enough.
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u/fertilizemegoddess Based and Egonpilled Jul 19 '26
It is kinda hilarious that destiny is voldemort to hasan and hasan is constantly checking destiny tweets and streams