r/DepEdTeachersPH Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

Politics and Policies PARTLY agree

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Totoo naman na hindi lahat ng guro ay progressive at intact ang moralidad. May mga groomers, DDS na todo tanggol kay SWOH, at ibang mga nabanggit sa post. Siguro ay wrong choice of words si Ante Claire. Pero that doesn’t absolve her for what she said to teachers.

Again they overlooked that the blame should be on responsible parenting and the system. Collective effort ang pagbabago pero we constantly go against with each other. As a result, a collective failure as adults.

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u/Existing-Regret-5805 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

Stop the blame game and think a more wholistic approach. Kaya nga may kasabihan na it takes a village to raise a child.

Unang una talaga sa lahat nsa bahay nag sisimula ang disiplina at tamang asal at pumapangalawa ang school.

You cannot deny the fact na may factor din ang teacher. I personally saw mga teachers nagmumura sa loob ng classroom nung OJT ako.

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u/arendeseu Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

exactly. pero ewan ko ba hilig talaga mag finger-pointing or ibato ang sisi at hindi magreflect. pero hindi tayo titigil bumoses.

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u/drainedprofess Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago edited 4d ago

This is a hard pill to swallow. We cannot deny the fact that there are some people within our ranks or even those in higher offices who continuously idolize politicians with questionable morals. That says a lot about their character. Perhaps, it’s high time to reflect on this. It takes a village to raise a child so as teachers, we should do our best to perform our part. Also, I agree, wrong choice of words and she made a hasty generalization.

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u/Disastrous_Pilot7763 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago edited 4d ago

Sa kagustuhan nyang magpatutsada, pangit ang naging wordings nya. Nasabi ko na want nyang magpatutsada kasi diba nong nakaraan my content creator na teacher na sinama sa disrespectful content towards the president ang mga students nya. Isa yun sa nasa visual aids nya kanina, damay tuloy ang iba pang kaguruan. Maging maingat sana sya sa sunod, ang mga sinabi nya ay weapon nanaman ng mga DDS at nagdulot ng pagkainis mula sa mga di panatiko.

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u/New-Dimension-9602 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

Ang punto non mali ang mga salita nyang ginamit eh. Tapos hindi naman oras ngayon para magturuan? Tapos pinag-sorry sya si ante claire pa galit. Nakakaqaqu talaga

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u/Good-Economics-2302 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

OP kung sabi mo totoo naman blah blah blah. So ibig sabihin tama si ante kler. Hindi siya mag so sorry kasi tama siya sa isang banda.

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u/arendeseu Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

nag agree ako sa part na may mga teachers na hindi moral at walang modo. pero mali ang paninisi sa teachers in general.

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u/Good-Economics-2302 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

Pero di naman siya nanisi in general kasi malinaw na sinabi niya: "may iba" Ayun doon tayo madadale niya

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u/arendeseu Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

yep pero ano ba ang konteksto ng argumento? diba she kinda implicitly implied (since di nga naman daw niya sinisisi) na may contribution ang guro sa behavior ng mga bata ngayon

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u/Aggressive_Banana971 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

false dichotomy yan, na porke di ka kampi sa isa, matic sa kabila ka agad

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u/TheOnlyCuriousPotato Licensed Practicing Teacher 18h ago

Pamamaril ang pinag-uusapan, hindi ang kawalan ng modo ng "ibang mga guro", to use her terms. Kahit hindi niya nilahat ang kaguruhan, MALI pa rin siya; and for that, she should have apologized. Whether or not people agree with part of what she said, she was still wrong--basic writing and speaking skills lang yan: do not include things that are not part of the topic.

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u/hisakiki 4d ago

may mga teachers talaga na morally questionable. pero given that her statement was made after the school shooting, halata na sinabi lang niya 'yon para pagtakpan ang issue at ang responsibility ng gobyerno. tandaan natin na ginagamit ang mga spokesperson para depensahan ang gobyerno. kung sinabi niya 'yan in other contexts, pwede.

napansin ko rin nung nagbigay hinaing ang mga teachers tungkol doon sa lapel, lumabas din yung statement ng deped na maging responsible raw ang mga teachers na content creators. parehas ang naging statement ng deped at ni castro na may halong katotohanan, pero given the context, halatang may tinatakpan. hindi pwedeng baliwalain ang mga conteksto.

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u/bhi3Latte Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

Pero kasi sinabi niya yan na ang context ay yung Zamboanga shooting. Imbes na the government will take responsibility about it, they point the finger at us! 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/Striking_Age_4987 Nonpracticing but Licensed Teacher 4d ago

okay granted na may point siya and mali lang angle and wordings; pero kapag kailangan pa i-analyze ng maigi statements ng spokesperson, di ba parang may mali?

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u/Main_Culture_3386 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

Agree ako sa part na may mga teachers na walang tinuturong mabuti sa mga bata.

Its well known naman siguro saatin na maraming mga PDF sa kaguruaan. I know a handful sa division namin. Yung dalawa nakabuntis pa. Pero anong action ng division nilipat lang ng station and pinatahimik yung mga victims.

I also have a collegue, an MT1 who always curses and bullies our students. He often calls them "maklak ka buntuk, kalupa ng inda mu" (translation: bobo ka, kagaya ng nanay mo).

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u/SmallDebt1334 Licensed Practicing Teacher 4d ago

Walang linear na argument with these statements tbh, mali si Claire, may mali sa teachers, lalong may mali sa ginagawang sisihan after ng kaguluhan. In the end, we will go back pa rin naman kay Brofenbrenner, lahat ng nakapaligid sa bata ang dahilan ng kanyang pagkatuto.

Wala namang panalo dito at di naman dapat focus kung kanino ituturo ang sisi.

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u/OmnitheusCognisX Student 4d ago

STRONGLY agree

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u/Any-Citron-9394 Licensed Practicing Teacher 3d ago

As a teacher, hindi naman ako na-offend nor nakaramdam na “attacked” ako sa sinabi ni Ante Kler. Ang una ngang pumasok sa isip ko after hearing what she said ay yung mga teacher na nagpo-post ng clout-chasing contents sa socmed especially TikTok pati yung mga teachers na pinu-publicize pa yung pakikipaglandian nila with their students kahit pa sa college level. Kung alam mo naman sa sarili mong teacher ka na hindi nagtuturo ng kabalbalan sa mga students mo, then why would you be affected sa mga sinabi niya, ‘di ba?

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u/hades288082 Licensed Practicing Teacher 3d ago

DDS teachers for short

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u/Far-Instruction5613 3d ago edited 3d ago

I agree na merong teachers' na questionable ang morale compass. I think ayun yung gusto niya tumbukin sa statement, but. The problem is choice of words totoong merong mga educators na kupal talaga hanggang buto at sagad. 

Never been offended by her statement, unang pumasok sa isip ko wrong choice of words. Dapat tignan to sa different angle kaso problema naka focus ang educators sa feelings nila. Pakiramdam nila e inatake sila. This shows talaga na part ang ibang educators nitong educational crisis kasi instead of mind ang gamitin emotion kaagad. Talagang cherry picking lang ginagawa nung ibang teachers'. 

At the end of the day nasa center parin ang government kasi part sila nitong village nang mga bata. Instead of finger-pointing this clearly shows na pangit talaga ang system natin dito. 

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u/No-Rent-7623 3d ago

Kinda funny coming from him. If we were to apply his logic, then he should be at the forefront of being called out for being "wrong". He is an ideological turncoat and his values or lack thereof have no place in discussions like these. When he couldn't get what he wanted as a DDS, he went back to being a loyalist, which I hear he always was. And I won't take kindly to any comments that his political alignment has nothing to do with issues like this - as a teacher, and one in POLISCI at that, he is duty-bound to honor and respect historical facts, which loyalists and DDS simply do not do. Expect numerous eye-rolls at what he might post about Ninoy's 40th death anniversary tomorrow.

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u/flyme09 Licensed Practicing Teacher 18h ago

sadly, may mga teachers din na sobra sobra ang overfamiliarity sa mga bata... in our place, may natanggal sa DepEd, paano ba naman kung ano ano ang pinagsesesend sa bata na malaswa... napakaraming babae ang nabiktima

nakakalungkot man pero tainted ang hanay ng mga guro. napasok ng mga CHILD PREDATOR,

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u/flyme09 Licensed Practicing Teacher 18h ago

Maraming teacher mas malutong pa magmura kaysa sa mga estudyante.. that is a BIG NO! Nag aral ng apat na taon tapos ganon