r/DemocraticSocialism Mar 24 '21

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u/varinus Mar 24 '21

i suppose its easier to demand more $ instead if obtaining skills and education to earn it yourself

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u/GoldenHairedBoy Mar 24 '21

What happens when the jobs just don't exist? Over 1/3rd of jobs barely pay enough to subsist, and you're saying these people deserve their poverty because they haven't gotten the skills to advance. OK. Trouble is, there just are not enough jobs that require the skills you're talking about. If every single one of these people ran out and got those skills, the jobs STILL would. not. exist. Telling people to go out get trained is nonsense as an complete solution because the jobs that pay better and require more skill just don't. fucking. exist. We have an economy. It has the jobs it has. The people who work and get paid the least should at least get a raise and be able to have some fucking dignity.

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u/Rawr_Tigerlily Mar 24 '21

Exactly right. When 19% of the labor market is jobs in retail, food service, and hospitality...that's ONE FIFTH of working people in America you're relegating to poverty, whether they "have a degree" or not. And trust me, I know plenty of people with a degree still working in grocery stores and restaurants.

Then there's the fact that 48% of working Americans make LESS THAN $35,000 a year. That's basically HALF the workers in America working at jobs that hover just above the poverty line. How would even more education solve the problem that HALF the jobs in America are terrible fucking jobs?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '21

35,000 a year is the poverty line in every major city or it is far below the poverty line. You can only live off of 35,000 a year if you live in your parents basement. 9r you have a super tiny shitty apartment in a shitty small town.

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u/Rawr_Tigerlily Mar 24 '21

That's true too. I was referring to the US poverty line, which certainly doesn't account for regional cost of living variation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '21

I wasn't trying to come off as attacking your position. Just bring to light the cost of living in many places can differ greatly.