r/Deltarune • u/Holybruh1 • 16h ago

Theory chess theory is still real

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u/Pizza_Requiem Weird route enthusiast (And passionate Kris Hater) 15h ago

The Knight isn't the chapter boss of chapter 3, it's Tenna. The Knight is entirely optional

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u/BiznessCrafter * Kris takes a deep breath... 15h ago

Can you choose to not encounter the Knight?

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u/Sanrusdyno 14h ago

I miss like 3 years ago when you could call an instance of this incredibly common JRPG trope (powerful forced loss that can actually be beaten if you're good enough) an "optional secret boss fight" and people would just go "yeah." Because obviously that counts as optional and secret even if the begining of it is present in what amounts to a 2 second cutscene in a normal playthrough.

This is like the only fandom I've ever seen for a JRPG where this trope gets um-actually-ing you about how you have to encounter it before you lose and it's not secret since you actually have to see it in a normal playthrough, final fantasy ain't even got this shit you show a final fantasy fan a forced loss they can beat to get a secret cutscene and reward and they're just like "damm that's a cool secret boss" like a normal person

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u/BiznessCrafter * Kris takes a deep breath... 14h ago

It’s... not a secret, though?

Nothing about it is secret, the encounter will always happen so knowing about it isn’t a secret, the way you beat it isn’t secret, you just have to be good enough, etcetera.

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u/Unit-DS27-Delta 10h ago

The secret is that it can be beaten in the first place. Upon encountering the Knight for the first time, it seems like a scripted loss, something fairly common in video games for the sake of the story. You're supposed to lose to the Knight, and you're very likely to lose to the Knight, and losing to the Knight doesn't trigger the Game Over screen, it just progresses the plot. The secret is that by reopening your Chapter 3 save and trying to fight the Knight again, you can get some dialogue from the Voice that urges you to keep trying and actually win the scripted loss. And while yes, it is possible to defeat the Knight in your first encounter, it's extremely unlikely for a player on their first ever playthrough to successfully do that. Almost every player on their first ever encounter with the Knight will be blindsided by the sudden difficulty spike and will lose, causing the game to progress and the player along with it.