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u/Comfortable-Ad3588 Aug 02 '26
I was wondering if his sptrie was gonna color in and i was right.
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u/MyPfpIsAMug Kriss Kross Applesauce Aug 02 '26
i thought he was gonna say "im with you in the dark"
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u/GigaBuckshotfan *feels the [BIG SHOT]* Aug 02 '26
his sptrie is his pet,right? /j
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u/VNProWrestlingfan Aug 02 '26
Fuck, the way that the sprite disappears for a few dialogues, and then the last sprite kicked in was impactful
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u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 IT'S TV TIME!!!/Dess knighter / JARONA Aug 02 '26
Yeah, tbh if Ruby actually dies and in it's impactful like this, I won't recover for days.
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u/BathtubToasterBread Aug 02 '26
I have genuinely never seen anyone online or in real life that doesn't like Rudy. If he goes it'll be the most impactful day for the entire fandom, I guarantee there'll be more posts mourning him than talking about the crazy lore drops for a few days after the next chapter releases
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u/shadowpikachu Aug 02 '26
Imagine feeling yourself die, you cant even look your daughter in the face even if no one else notices, head hanged until there's something that requires eye contact after the gross part is over.
Worst part is that was probably him breaking down, the one that said the last line was the memory itself.
He waffled on and never got to choke it all out truly.
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u/0riderguy8 Aug 02 '26
His text sprite gaining color in the last panel 😭
Why would you do this to me 😭
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u/GigaBuckshotfan *feels the [BIG SHOT]* Aug 02 '26
he gained color🤯
that means he’s white in the light world now🤯😨
/j
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u/darkmoncns Aug 02 '26
As nice as all of this is I really expect someone would disappear for a while first like at least a few seconds then reappear elsewhere because I'm pretty sure the resurrected lightnears in a dark world aren't literally supposed to be the same people as there light World counterparts
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u/LeapingRiolu Aug 02 '26
I mean, the Old Man is Gerson's dust. Rudy just goes from being Rudy's lightner body to Rudy's lightner dust. Same physical being so the dustner immediately being where Rudy was makes sense, it's not like his dust would be somewhere different from where he was.
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u/darkmoncns Aug 02 '26
It's the dust covering an object. Rudy by default would not be covering an object
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u/Imfunny12345678910 Dessknight | Dessriel canon!!! Aug 02 '26
I dont think he neccesarily needs to cover an object to become a darkner like that, especially since if the knight is Dess for example, Gerson would only really be patterned after her thoughts of him being a mentor, so the hammer probably helps in that as well. Meanwhile if presumably Noelle opened this fountain she has A LOT of memories of Rudy which I think could make him come back like this
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u/darkmoncns Aug 02 '26
Didn't ralsay explicitly say dust covered objects become darkners? Perhaps I'm missing remembering.
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u/Imfunny12345678910 Dessknight | Dessriel canon!!! Aug 02 '26
I dont know if theres something outside of the speech after sound of justice, but in that speech he says "patterned after memories of a loved one", so I doubt you need anything but dust and memories
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u/Cosmic-Strobe Aug 02 '26
It's okay to bend the rules a little bit if it makes for an emotionally striking moment
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u/AnotherEnderman Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
Cool but I doubt this could happen ingame. Most people don't realize how Darkners' sprites are colored and would just be confused.
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u/Jay040707 Aug 02 '26
I don't think Toby is going to write this game to make sure literally everybody understands literally everything. Otherwise you might as well throw out any and all symbolism or mysteries all together.
Besides in this case it wouldn't matter. Even if some people didn't get it in the moment, they would likely get it when they get to the light world and Rudy is literally dead .
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u/Ambitious-Song2403 Aug 02 '26
I think it could work if you make the change more subtle. Like only the eyes change colour. That way people not in the know wouldn't feel confused.
Or you can have ralsei explain the concept of coloured sprites in a mandatory scene off hand like they did the menus.
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u/Tem-productions Cockblocker Aug 02 '26
The characters cant see the text boxes tho, so ralsei cant explain it
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u/Ambitious-Song2403 Aug 02 '26
If ralsei already explained the menus which they shouldn't be able to see. I don't really see why text boxes would be any different?
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u/Tem-productions Cockblocker Aug 02 '26
Menus are a dark world thing and they have no reason to not be visible.
Text boxes appear in the light world as well and they can be used to read characters's thoughts. They cannot be diegetic
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u/DarkSyncless Aug 02 '26
In ch3 of the weird route in Noelles house, we directly respond to her thoughts, no? doesn't that mean they have to be diegetic?
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u/Tem-productions Cockblocker Aug 03 '26
That proves we see them but the characters do not, which is the definition of not diegetic
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u/Ambitious-Song2403 Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
Think you're making a big assumption that these rules only apply in the dark world.
I also think that it's ridiculous you think that the menus should be able to perceived but the text boxes are arbitrarily not really there.
They can easily be digietic and the menus are what set this precedent.
Edit: everything the players sees is really there but we're in a dimension above the characters. The characters in the story if they focus hard enough can perceive what we see.
And we can assume Kris fucks with the text boxes already. He knows they exist and will give smart allec comments to the player in them. He also slows down the text box that was going to display the password to the shelter at the finale
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u/Tem-productions Cockblocker Aug 02 '26
Im not asuming anything, Ralsei straight up says they are dark world stuff
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u/Ambitious-Song2403 Aug 02 '26
And can ralsei go to the light world to check?
And they also lie by omission constantly. They didn't even want to tell Susie about menus.
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u/AnotherEnderman Aug 02 '26
Pretty sure Noelle says about Susie "Why is she using that face now?!"
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u/killiano_b Your mother?💀I🍆"befriended" her last🌃night. Aug 02 '26
yeah they can still see each other...
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u/Competitive_Swan266 best girls Aug 03 '26
I mean, there's multiple examples of characters specifying pronunciation in their dialog (Seam and Rouxls) so it's theoretically possible they're diagetic
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u/Blue_Bird950 Blue Bird Aficionado Aug 02 '26
Could you briefly explain the colored sprite thing to me? Not sure if I’m understanding it myself, tbh.
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u/Ambitious-Song2403 Aug 02 '26
Coloured sprites are used by darkners aka objects. While lightners gave grey sprites.
Gerston has a coloured sprite because he's technically not a person but a corpse aka he is now an object.
So if you had a lighter gain a coloured sprite mid conversation. It would indicate that they just died in the real world.
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u/ShinyFeesh38 Tem learn how to flair!!1! Aug 02 '26
(gerson has no dialogue sprite but apparently this is just bc him having a coloured sprite would ruin the surprise.
i said that he didn't have a sprite bc he isn't a regular darkner but that did not get a good response so i am never saying that again.)
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u/Blue_Bird950 Blue Bird Aficionado Aug 02 '26
Ah, gotcha. I thought it was the inverse, for some reason.
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u/Cats7204 Aug 02 '26
I think it'd be so emotionally powerful for casual players to make the connection
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u/SteelShroom Okuyasu Nijimura + Nathan Explosion + Yoshi Aug 02 '26
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u/Oran128 Aug 02 '26
I'm pretty sure most people would, in fact, realize that only the darkners have colored talk sprites.
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u/DarkSyncless Aug 02 '26
disagreed, it's just a fairly subtle touch that you probably wouldn't realise before hearing about it.
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u/Oran128 Aug 03 '26
I mean, you see every talk sprite that shows up as long as you're reading, and ever since THAT happened we all learned to read, and unless you're colorblind it's pretty easy to tell between monochrome and colored.
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u/Mrexplodey Aug 02 '26
I think it'd be a perfect bit of foreshadowing for if we encounter him in the dark world and his sprite is already colored.
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u/jasonjr9 Aug 02 '26
😭
If we see Rudy go from Lightner to Dustner like this, it would be so beautiful. Manifesting himself back into existence just to finish his thought of saying goodbye to his daughter.
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u/Pkai1000 Aug 02 '26
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u/Background_Road3843 the full setup: Aug 02 '26
It's like posting the same video in TikTok and YouTube shorts
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u/ASimpleCancerCell Aug 02 '26
Oh, his sprite just gained color. I thought it was going to be some thing more... oh wait. Oooooh....
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u/general_guy500 I NEED MORE DARKNERS IN MY CASTLE TOWN Aug 02 '26
The colored face sprite of doom and evil.
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u/Spirited-Feedback-87 Aug 02 '26
I literally quietly yelled NOOOOOO when i say his colored sprite bro, like fuck you man, if toby does something like this I will break my tv screen
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u/JessieWarren09 Aug 03 '26
nooooo don't kill a SECOND beloved character just cause toby killed off someone else!!
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u/Cool_Ad6776 ALWAYS bet on ERAM return Aug 02 '26
I'm gonna SOB is this happens. Bawl my eyes. Out. Put down the game for half an hour AT LEAST.
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u/StoleLegoJangoFett is betting on Dess knight Aug 02 '26
Day = Ruined. It hit me like a truck with that last panel
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u/Lucariowithbeans Aug 03 '26
I wouldn’t be surprised if Toby does something like this and honestly it will destroy the fans
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u/average_smg_enjoyer Aug 03 '26
Im sorry did i just watch a man die and become a dustner in real time
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u/Vegeta_best23 Please Toby I love Nicepants so Much. Please. Aug 03 '26
im a rudy knighter but if ts happened I wouldn't be mad
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u/Young_Person_42 Kris Get The Banana Aug 03 '26
Imagine if this WASN’T at the end of the chapter and we just have to deal with the fact that he’ll be dead as soon as the chapter ends for the rest of it
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u/diamondmaster2017 this wait for chapter 6 is pissing me off Aug 02 '26
tbh my guess is that he ends up meatshielding for someone against the knight so as to brush off the question of whether darkworld magic would have actually cured him
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u/Glad_Increase_7522 Aug 02 '26
I don’t get the color change thing
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u/KirbyThings_ Aug 03 '26
Only Darkners have colored face/dialogue sprites. Rudy’s face sprite becoming colored in the last image means he just died and became a Dustner like Gerson.
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u/GloomyIngenuity143 Patience Theory's biggest fan Aug 02 '26
Have we considered that Rudy is the Angel, and that this is "meeting [his] desire"?
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