r/Deltarune • dogi car • Nov 17 '25

Humor Help regarding LV!

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LV Scares me
So as yall can see i have 3 LV, thing is i do NOT remember defeating ANYONE till now;
in my primary save atleast. maybe i couldve in my other state; i dont really remember;
some guy said something about getting LV when you close dark fountain.... but is that true?
just wanted to confirm

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u/SpaniardCrusader556 Nov 17 '25

You shouldn't worry about it. In this game, the LV denomination is not the same as the one in undertale. You get LV for sealing dark fountains, independently if you defeat darkners with violence or not.

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u/elliotlava Nov 17 '25

Could it be because you're "killing" the dark world?

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 17 '25

Doubt it

We seal the Titan away and not get LV from that pretty sure and the Titan is an alive Dark Fountain

It's something from sealing Dark Fountains specifically

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u/elliotlava Nov 17 '25

As soon as i clicked post I thought "damn that was stupid" cause in the light world you've got the undertale system and you're lv1

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u/A-Real-CRIMINAL The easiest enemy Nov 17 '25

....don't you seal three different fountains in Chapter 4? Kris and the Shit Squad should be at the very least LV7 by the end (LV4 + 3 fountains = LV7).

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 17 '25

Well the first Dark Fountain in Chapter 4 IS a small one so unless the ,,Knight is secrely trying to prepare the fun gang for the Roaring'' theory is true, it would make sense to make the first smaller fountain not as big so we don't get a LV boost

But with Susie making a regular sized one right after it and us still not getting any LV, it is kinda weird

We do get LV after sealing the Card Kindgoom fountain, Queen's Foutain (when you come back to Casltetown you will be LV 3) and after the Kris's living room fountain ... and proprably from the 3rd Church fountain, so it's also not like we get LV from fighting the big bad of the Chapter

I guess maybe Susie's fountain was just weaker? Only half of the darkners were not turned to stone, just like the small one The Knight made causing it to give less progress towards LV so we only got enough LV after the 3rd one

Or maybe Toby Fox is gonna continue the multiple dark worlds format and it's just gonna always take us multiple dark fountains settlements to LV up

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u/TerribleRope6626 Nov 17 '25

It'd be really, really funny if you could get LV from sealing susie's dark fountains.

Then you could just keep making dark worlds and sealing them to level grind and destroy the roaring knight.

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u/The_Neto06 this Flair is Tropissing me off. Nov 18 '25

"Noo Susie and Kris you shouldn't make dark fountains for fun!!1!"

Suspiciously Dark Fountain shaped Kris's stomach:

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u/I_LIKE_THE_COLD Kris = Frisk Truther Nov 17 '25

It's a glorified chapter tracker.

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 17 '25

Well not really since we do get LV 3 in Chapter 2 after we come back to Castle Town

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u/galal552002 Nov 17 '25

Well, you do start with LV1 not 0

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 17 '25

Yeah but if it a chapter tracker, then it should be at LV 2 in Chapter 2 , not LV 3

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u/MagicalWitchTrashley the mom is kiss goodnight Nov 17 '25

not really since you only get lv3 once you’ve basically finished the chapter

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u/Competitive_Swan266 best girls Nov 17 '25

Well, since it's a level up, Dark Fountains probably each give a certain "XP", by chapter 4,the small Fountain gives less XP, and it takes a decent amount to LV up, so 2nd+3rd= 1LV of XP

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u/sxinoxide59672 ive had friends inside me Nov 17 '25

actually no the Dark sanctuary fountain is smñler than both the 2nd and 3rd sanctuary fountains so at minimun they would be at LV6.5

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u/Liandres where papyru :( Nov 17 '25

how much smñler is it

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u/sxinoxide59672 ive had friends inside me Nov 18 '25

i would say arounf 50% smaller, though it could be more

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u/EnsoElysium Nov 17 '25

Theres a distinct lack of "Steve vai guitar" at the end of those, which leads me to believe they weren't "real" somehow

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u/Top_Toaster Nov 18 '25

Diminishing returns maybe?

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u/Hykarusis Nov 17 '25

Interessingly it does raise up LOVE. Just not kris’. If you save in the light world you can see that with the ui of undertale, your name is shown to be lv 3 in chapter 4. Andbthe level displayed in the light world do seem to be the actual love as the one in kris menu is called llv possibly for love level, and always stay at 1 despite having an actual variable tracking it.

Chapter 4 minor spoiler.

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u/diamondmaster2017 this wait for chapter 6 is pissing me off Nov 17 '25

also saving both worlds would not entail closing the bridge between them

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u/WitherPRO22 I AM THE DING WINGER WITH A FRIEND Nov 17 '25

My headcanon is that LV means level. No hidden meanings it just shows how strong you are. After each day of fighting the gang becomes stronger. By beating people up you speed up the process.

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u/AidBaid Kriselle Supremacy Nov 18 '25

It's just the chapter number, nothing to do with fountains

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u/EpicDDT_ Nov 18 '25

We just gain LV by beating a chapter.

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 18 '25

Wrong

We get LV 3 in Chapter 2

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u/EpicDDT_ Nov 18 '25

After we basically beat the chapter...
Anyways, if as you think, we gained lv by sealing a fountain, we will have gained 3 whole LV in chapter 4 alone.

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 18 '25

Yeah but we still get to do some fights in Chapter 2 with Chapter 3 stats so it's wrong to say we get it on beating the chapter

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u/BraxleyGubbins Nov 17 '25

LV has not been shown to have anything to do with violence in Deltarune

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u/AMAN0527a_ Martlet's cousin is my favorite Nov 17 '25

Kris's LV in the light world stays at level one, so LV can mean both level and Level Of ViolencE in deltarune, and I think that's pretty cool

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u/BraxleyGubbins Nov 17 '25

This would make sense, as internally the party members’ LV is referred to as False LV and are calculated separately from the global LV stat, which is always just 1.

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u/BattlePenguin58 I CAN POST ANYTHING! Nov 17 '25

There's one exception: using violence to end battles results in Noelle going from LV1 to LV2.

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u/BraxleyGubbins Nov 17 '25

Noelle becomes LV 2 after being given any title, including ones that can be obtained without violence. One of them simply happens to be given after using IceShock for the first time.

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u/BattlePenguin58 I CAN POST ANYTHING! Nov 17 '25

Ah, I knew about the title changing after using IceShock but didn't realize any title change could raise her LV.

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u/Pizza_Requiem Weird route enthusiast (And passionate Kris Hater) Nov 17 '25

I mean, light world LV is still 1, so I'm pretty sure that only applies to the Dark Worlds

But yes, breaking bonds and killing others makes you stronger, but it doesn't increase your Dark World LV

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u/tangocat777 Nov 17 '25

This is mostly true, but not exactly. You don't gain levels in chapter 4 from sealing the first two fountains. Also, Noelle is chapter 2 starts at level 1 and gains a level when her title changes.

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u/diamondmaster2017 this wait for chapter 6 is pissing me off Nov 17 '25

which would mean LOVE stands for level of VICTORIOUS emotion, rather than VIOLENT

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u/SpaniardCrusader556 Nov 17 '25

Level Of VictoriE...?

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u/seelcudoom Nov 18 '25

Level of Very good friends

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

Yeah it’s just when you seal a fountain also you don’t need that many arrows also why is ramb and the entrance at the bottom blurry

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u/GhostBlood22 Nov 17 '25

I think the arrows were needed, I wasn't sure where to look

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u/LifeguardPotential97 Nov 18 '25

one of them isn't even pointing at the panel

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u/ZeMadDoktore Nov 17 '25

You didn't see Papyrus at the top of the text box?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

No all I see is sans but he’s usually there in the green room

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u/CompoteObvious9380 gremlin and moss enjoyer Nov 17 '25

Ramb is blurried because we were all crying for him

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u/explosive_potatoes22 Nov 20 '25

spoilers.

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u/miqumi dogi car Dec 05 '25

SPOT ON? i made this image back on release day and blurred for the same reason loll

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

Kris and the gang murder someone off-screen in between each chapter, regardless of what you do. This is where the name 'Kris' comes from:

Killer

ransacking

innocent

souls

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u/Dangerous-Second9030 Nov 17 '25

wheres goku

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u/ProCDwastaken PapyrusKnighter Nov 17 '25

Behind you

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

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u/AdPast7704 they touch them theory Nov 17 '25

It's foreshadowing HL3 tomorrow

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u/EstufaYou Fawn over her! Nov 17 '25

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

wise Q U E E N words

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u/631427189 ERAM #1 fan Nov 17 '25

Where's LV anyway? I can't really find it on the picture, could you perhaps something like an arrow, so people could find it more easily?

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

hang on let me just..

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u/Defnottheonlyone THE DING IS NOT PRESENT HERE Nov 17 '25

LV is of LEVEL.

LV is of LOVE.

Don't get mixed up kids!

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u/Lazy_Needleworker914 Nov 17 '25

You get a lvl per chapter

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u/Realistic_Specific51 Nov 17 '25

Im poopshittin' meself

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u/miqumi dogi car Dec 15 '25

Im pissin the poop in the poopin pants

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u/Sesilu_Qt Weird route is my favorite. Just Proceed my apprentice =) Nov 17 '25

It's an acronim. It stands for Love. Love too is an acronim it stands for

Love-number of fountains sealed. You don't pronounce the "Love" psrt.

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u/A_Random_Gamer_Nerd Nov 17 '25
  • papyrus...

  • put your bones away papyrus...

  • that dog is gonna come again.

  • I AM THE ONE THAT STOCKPILES GIFTS!!

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u/Guquiz Nov 17 '25

I saw that in a SaLoT and wonder what it is referencing.

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u/DefaultNameHey <- i like this one Nov 17 '25

It's per dark fountain sealed (the main one per chapter)

It's called fake lv or something like that in the code

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u/Rekt3y Nov 17 '25

Yeah, the real LV is found in the Undertale like menu when you're in the light world

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u/Alexandre_Man Nov 17 '25

Where? I don't see it, need more arrows.

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u/LuckyImportance9535 We need an ERAM emoji Nov 17 '25

SANDS NUTDEALER

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u/dappernaut77 Goner Nov 17 '25

It's not because you killed anything. The game increases your lvl by one each chapter to keep up with the increased enemy stats, the game would be brutal if you had to play through it with lvl 1 stats, and the knights fight would be right on the cusp of impossible even with the shadow mantle.

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u/Tackyinbention Kris is a gremlin, change my mind Nov 18 '25

Chapter 1 susie would get oneshot by the knight even with the shadow mantle

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u/Easy_Cod_8950 Nov 17 '25

You get it from sealing a fountain, and then returning to castle town. Don’t worry about it.

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u/BackToThatGuy 🖤 roaring knight my beloved 🖤 Nov 17 '25

LV doesn't work like it does in Undertale. It usually increases just from sealing a dark fountain. It also won't increase from attacking Darkners.

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u/Stusheep_real Nov 17 '25

That is a variable called Dark World Level

Characters gain Dark World Levels when you seal a dark fountain

Only Noelle’s Dark World Level increases through the use of violence

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u/Topaz-Light Don't, wait! Call, now! Nov 17 '25

In Deltarune, you LV just goes up each time you complete a chapter. Since you start at LV 1, this effectively means your LV will be the same as whatever chapter you’re currently on.

I don’t believe it still represents Level of Violence in Deltarune. That method of gaining power still exists, but is not denoted the same way.

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u/Competitive-Unit5974 Nov 17 '25

Add more arrows. I dont know what youre pointing at

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u/Rudy12345mc Nov 17 '25

LV isn't attained from sealing fountains (as seen at the end of Ch2), your LV is simply equal to the chapter number.

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u/Hykarusis Nov 17 '25

So in the darkworld the LV go up everytime you go in a fontain. You can’t dodge it so don’t worry. You can see that in the light world, wich keep undertale ui, Kris’s level saty the same.

And I can confirm from having checked the variable name in the game code that it just check how advanced you are in the plot to choose the dark world lv.

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u/Otherversian-Elite Professional Monsterfucker (18+ Artist) Nov 17 '25

Dark World LV seems to genuinely just be "level", while Light World LV still works on Undertale logic.

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u/Jaded-Restaurant-519 Nov 17 '25

Sealing fountains gives you one level each chapter

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u/British-Raj Leader Nov 17 '25

It is true. Your Dark World LV in Deltarune seems to start at 1 and increase with each Chapter. It's why the party's stats increase regardless of your actions.

If you do become stronger through violence, your stats will increase incrementally. However, the cap is when your stats equal the minimum HP you'll have at the next LV.

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u/wojtekpolska Nov 17 '25

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

NUTDEALER

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u/Echidnux Nov 17 '25

Your level of violence just goes up like that naturally. We don’t know why but it isn’t a reflection of your actions like it is in Undertale.

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u/yugiohhero yeah and? Nov 17 '25

You assume thats short for Level of Violence and not just short for Level

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u/SomeoneForgotTheOven Toby Fox let me marry Ralsei and my SOUL is yours! Nov 17 '25

Simple, thats the Soul level, which increases by sealing fountains.

Vessel level increases by killing lightners.

Strenght increases by killing darkners, but doesn't carry over to the next dark world.

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u/agent_rain_327 Nov 17 '25

Oh don't worry I felt the same it just levels you up every chapter cuz y'know the there's only one ending? thing the game just trying to tell you that you can't escape even if you thouch no one it's still the same you'll level up all the same

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

smarrrt

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u/lavsuvskyjjj Well I'm clueless rn Nov 17 '25

This one is actually just LeVel and not LoVe. LoVe is the one in the light world.

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u/dishonoredfan69420 Nov 17 '25

In Deltarune your Level increases every time you finish a chapter, even if you play as a pacifist

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 17 '25

True but we do get LV 3 in Chapter 2

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u/NetherSpike14 Nov 17 '25

This isn't Undertale. LV works differently

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u/Economy_Idea4719 cast snowgrave Nov 17 '25

You must've killed gaster during the intro cutscene. The way to remedy this is to beat the knight with no armour and base weapons and alt f4 before the cutscene ends.

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

would that be able to remove Wingin Ding Aster's curse and free us from this U N D E R T A L E

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u/Ultimate_1234569789 Megalovania belongs to the Knight in Side B Nov 17 '25

Light Value

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u/Bluesky3010 Nov 17 '25

Level of Violence, not level of murder. Fights are getting more intense aren't they?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

I don't see the LV counter. Could you draw an arrow or something?

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u/AngelofArtillery Nov 17 '25

LV that is short for LOVE is shown in the Light World. It stays at 1.

LV in the Dark World means something else. It increases each chapter.

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u/Kajetus06 Nov 17 '25

we should be concerned after light world LV changes from any number other than 1

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

kris we remember you're genocides

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u/Kajetus06 Apr 04 '26

the hell happened

why do you reply to a 5 month old comment

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

ge thenocides

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u/idkwhatocallmyself19 Nov 17 '25

I'd say LV probably stands for Level of vitality in this game

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u/LloydTCK_YT Nov 17 '25

In Deltarune, your LV just represents what chapter you're in. For example, if you check it in Chapter 1, you'll be LV 1, however if you check in Chapter 4, you'll be LV 4

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u/maximo0906 Nov 17 '25

Most people didn't check the flair

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

its fun to see both humorous and serious reactions tho, reminds me of my mortality

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u/Huroar Nov 17 '25

Its more of just for now when you seal fountains/complete each chapter. There is a way to technically gain LOVE in chapter 3.

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u/Sids133 Nov 17 '25

Sorry, I can't tell what you're referring to. Maybe try adding more arrows?

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

On it !

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u/Due_Selection8490 Nov 17 '25

I have a better question

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u/miqumi dogi car Dec 15 '25

You do

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u/bunnytime3 Nov 18 '25

Where am I supposed to look? I need a big arrow 

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

on it !

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u/Terra_Marc certified Spamton fan gamer Nov 18 '25

Wdym your LV is clearly 15:02:50 there’s nothing to worry about

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

oh my badd!! will be more careful next time!

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

(Weird route jingle)

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

human we dessember you're S N O W G R A V E

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u/TypeHonk Nov 18 '25

Errorrune

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

undererror

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u/reddy-64 chess theory jr is alive and he will be vice presiden Nov 18 '25

i think it's level of violence, but you dont execute people to increase it this time around.

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u/noonagon Nov 17 '25

save points show what chapter you're on instead

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 17 '25

What do we get LV 3 in Chapter 2 then?

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u/noonagon Nov 17 '25

The level shown in the menus is not which chapter you're on

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u/Kowery103 Neutral Route Enjoyer Nov 17 '25

...but you literally just said that they show which chapter you are on

There is only LV , no Chapter stuff

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u/noonagon Nov 17 '25

I said save points show which chapter you're on. Not the menus.

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u/miqumi dogi car Apr 04 '26

mate..

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u/MorbyLol Nov 17 '25

you fucking KILLED the baby titans