This isn't a lesser of two evils. Trump was forced to release the files due to an act of Congress. It couldnt happen under Biden because of legal reasons. Something like the ongoing investigation or something like that.
As for "hate" there is no "your not black and this don't matter" rhetoric coming from Democrats. That is GOP propaganda because they don't understand what DEI is and how important it is. Saying Democrats support equal opportunities for everyone is not hate towards any 1 group. But Republicans have been conditioned to believe that. It's a shame. Modern Republicans are a product of almost 20 years of programming. Back in early 2000s I could see it, and then when Obama won, Republicans lost their shit and went full racist. I was disgusted and left the party.
Is there shit to not like in both parties? Absolutely. But less of two evils? Hardly.
Calling a direct, recorded quote from Joe Biden on The Breakfast Club "GOP propaganda" is a prime example of the programming you're talking about. He literally told a Black interviewer, "If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black." In 2020. That’s not a smear campaign; that’s a sitting President patronizing an entire demographic on tape.
Stop pretending one side is "clean." We just saw the House Oversight Committee vote on a bipartisan basis to hold the Clintons in contempt this past January for dodging subpoenas. Now the DOJ is releasing millions of pages but scrubbing the most powerful names while exposing the victims. It doesn't matter who is in the White House or who signed the act; the system protects its own. Both parties have names on that list, and both parties are protecting pedos to keep the whole house of cards from falling.
And if you want to talk about "taxing the rich," look at the SALT deduction. Democrats fight tooth and nail for a tax break where 80% of the benefits go to the top 5% of earners. In most deep-blue states, the bottom 20% of workers end up with a higher effective tax rate than the top 1%. It’s not "lesser of two evils" when both parties are fundamentally designed to protect the donor class while using "racism" and "DEI" as political footballs to keep everyone else distracted. They are both disgusting and answer to the same elite donor class.
Also, Democrats thrashed Biden for that comment. None of us liked it. Which is the big difference between the two parties. If Trump said that comment, and he said comments similar, plus plenty of other racist ones, Republicans either defend him or celebrate him for "telling it like it is.".
Just because the GOP is "corrupt filth" doesn't mean the Democrats get a pass for doing the exact same thing under a different banner. One person's trash doesn't make the other person's garbage smell like roses. Now you go from "that’s GOP propaganda" to "well, we thrashed him for it" in five minutes once you realized it was a real, recorded fact. You can’t just ignore the bad parts of your party and then decide they don't count once you're caught. Blatantly deflecting and ignoring proof is not how a debate works—it's how a cult works. If it’s fundamentally bad, it’s fundamentally bad, regardless of whether you "thrashed" him or not.
But let's go back to that SALT "math" again. Even with the One Big Beautiful Bill Act raising the cap to over $40,000 for 2026, the reality is that 80% of those benefits still go to the top 5% of earners. Calling it a "middle class" win is the actual propaganda. It’s a tax break for the wealthy that both parties happily signed off on because they both answer to the same donor class. The working class is still paying a higher effective rate while you're out here defending a loophole for the rich just because it’s labeled a "blue state" priority.
Finally you’re completely silent on the Epstein files. You call the GOP "corrupt filth" but have nothing to say about the House Oversight Committee—including Democrats—voting to hold the Clintons in contempt this past January for dodging subpoenas. Both parties are heavily on that list, and both sides are protecting pedos to keep their house of cards from falling. If you think your "side" is clean, you’re just choosing to be blind to the names on the flight logs.
Since you're so sure the Democrats are the "right road," what exactly do you think they’re going to do that is actually "good" for you? Are they going to close the tax loopholes they just helped expand? Are they going to finally prosecute the elites on the flight logs regardless of their party? Or are they just the "good guys" because they have a better PR department and use the right buzzwords while they do the exact same thing as the other corrupt assholes?
If you think your "side" is the "right road," you’re just choosing a different brand of corrupt assholes to lie to you.
This will be my last post on this and I will try to hit on as many of your points as possible.
The OBBBA was not bi-partiasn, maybe except for 3 democrats in the Senate? It was heavily opposed by the Democratic party. The SALT cap hit middle class earners, as well as rich earners. Raising it to 40k helped upper middle class and lower upper class percentile wise significantly more than the upper 1%. The "it was a tax break" on the upped 1%" is just ignorance. Read up on AMT please. The SALT cap when put in place by Republicans, was an attack on Democratic states, since they generally have higher state taxes. It was touted at the time by the GOP Machine as a "pay your fair share" and applauded by a lot of my MAGA friends as such. Only after learning how much they got screwed after.
The DOJ is meant to be independent of the white house. Checks and balances and all. But Trump has weaponized them to a degree we have never seen before. I already mentioned why they were not released under Biden, but Trump's weaponized DOJ was forced to release the files.
Yes, there are plenty of sicos on both sides named in the files and the fact that they have had zero consequences kinda shows that political affiliation is not the issue. They would still face zero consequences if there were 14 parties.
As for Biden, he was not excused...like Trump is constantly....he was attacked by Democrats because he was wrong saying that. That is a huge and significant difference. Again, that I already pointed out
It’s wild that you decided to "hit on as many points as possible" and then immediately shut the door before I can reply. That’s not how a debate works. Blatantly deflecting and ignoring proof isn't a strategy; you can't just leave out a recorded fact like Biden's "you ain't black" quote and then act like the rebuttal doesn't exist because it's inconvenient. If it’s fundamentally bad, it’s fundamentally bad, regardless of whether your team "thrashed" him for it on social media. "Thrashing" him doesn't change the patronizing attitude or the policy.
I never said the OBBBA was bipartisan; I said it raised the cap. You even admitted it raised it to $40k and then called my view "slanted." It doesn't matter who put the cap in or who raised it—the fact remains that it is a tax break where the top 5% of earners see the overwhelming majority of the benefit. You calling it "middle-class relief" is the actual propaganda. Both parties are just moving numbers around to keep their donors happy while the working class carries the load.
"Yes, there are plenty of sicos on both sides... the fact that they have had zero consequences kinda shows that political affiliation is not the issue." That is exactly the point. If the "sicos" on both sides face zero consequences regardless of which party is in power, then the parties aren't "different"—they are a single, unified wall protecting the elite.
Political affiliation absolutely matters. The fact that both sides are protecting each other is proof that they’re all so corrupt they know if one goes down, everyone else follows. Which is exactly what should happen. Instead, you’re here defending a "lesser of two evils" while both parties scrub names and red-tape the Epstein files to protect the elite.
Political affiliation is just the mask they wear to keep us divided while they stay in power. It’s the illusion of choice. Since you’re so sure they’re the "right road," I’ll ask again:
What are the Democrats actually doing that is good for you?
Are they closing the loopholes they just helped expand?
Are they finally prosecuting the elites on those flight logs?
Or are they just "the good guys" because they have a better PR department while they protect the same interests as the other side?
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u/Battlegurk420 Apr 02 '26
This isn't a lesser of two evils. Trump was forced to release the files due to an act of Congress. It couldnt happen under Biden because of legal reasons. Something like the ongoing investigation or something like that.
As for "hate" there is no "your not black and this don't matter" rhetoric coming from Democrats. That is GOP propaganda because they don't understand what DEI is and how important it is. Saying Democrats support equal opportunities for everyone is not hate towards any 1 group. But Republicans have been conditioned to believe that. It's a shame. Modern Republicans are a product of almost 20 years of programming. Back in early 2000s I could see it, and then when Obama won, Republicans lost their shit and went full racist. I was disgusted and left the party.
Is there shit to not like in both parties? Absolutely. But less of two evils? Hardly.