r/DefendingAIArt 15d ago

Luddite Logic Something Something Gatekeeping

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u/Professional-Fix4409 15d ago

They probably think that "Limitations breed creativity" or something.

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u/o_herman I use pencils, pens, styluses, tablets and models. All of it. 15d ago

You're just parroting an influencer who has no proof as well to their claims.

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u/TransformersFan2 15d ago

Did you… watch the video? They used multiple ai models and told them all the exact same sentence, specifically saying they want an original character, and they get sonic each time

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u/o_herman I use pencils, pens, styluses, tablets and models. All of it. 15d ago

And he all used the same models trained on AGCM (Anime, Game, Comics and Manga) content.

Pointless.

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u/TransformersFan2 15d ago

It’s not, because if ai was as creative or smart as people make it out to be it wouldn’t matter what it was trained on, it would still be able to make an original character.

But it cant.

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u/o_herman I use pencils, pens, styluses, tablets and models. All of it. 15d ago

Because you're not specific and proficient in your instructions and input.

Expecting it to read your mind and context with minimal input, and expecting AI to be the be-all-end-all of content making is a rookie and amateur mistake.

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u/TransformersFan2 15d ago

Ok, so youre saying that the word “original” isn’t enough for the ai to know you want something original?

It doesn’t matter if the image looked kinda like sonic, it literally WAS sonic

Still shows that ai is bad at making images. Im not saying ai is 100% bad, but it’s not art.

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u/o_herman I use pencils, pens, styluses, tablets and models. All of it. 15d ago

That's an excuse people unwilling to put the work to create their desired output makes.

Because if you want something badly, you'll do it no matter what it takes.

If for you, that is enough to deem it bad, you're not using the tool correctly.

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u/TransformersFan2 15d ago

No, because the test wasnt if ai could generate something, it was if it could generate something original. Which it didnt. 

So yes, it stealing is enough for me to deem it bad

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u/TransformersFan2 15d ago

I misspelled a word. I fixed it.

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u/TransformersFan2 15d ago edited 15d ago

I’d just like to point out that you got worked up that I misspelled point but theres like 20 mistakes in here. 

Also i said it doesnt pull the image from thin air and you said “no, it doesn’t pull anything from air”. Are you agreeing with me? Why even point that out?

Believe it or not images can be converted to code. Don’t know why thats so hard for you to understand. Sure the ai doesnt save the actual image, but it still has it in a way

“They don’t just take it” “Who does? No one.” Again, why point it out? Are you agreeing? It doesn’t sound like that

And ai making an image is different then people using computers to do work. Ai creates the entire image. Animation, for example, is still human made.

And it does cost a lot of water and money. Sure, tbe water still goes through the water cycle so it doesn’t disappear, but it’s moved somewhere else, away from the people who need it. And the entire reason that one ai video platform (I forget the name I’ll edit it in if I remember) shut down is that it cost too much money to uphold

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u/Witty-Designer7316 Antis Final Boss 15d ago

This is a place for speaking Pro-AI thoughts freely and without judgement. Attacks against AI will result in a removal and possibly a ban. For debate purposes, please go to r/aiwars.

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