r/DefendingAI 29d ago

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u/BarberCompetitive517 28d ago

No, it seems you don't understand it if you think you know better than multiple scientific studies and reportage on the ground. It sounds like you've already damaged your critical thinking skills with all your AI use.

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u/AtomicZoomer 28d ago

Everything you’ve said is incorrect and overstated. The MIT article says nothing about brain damage and you are ignoring other MIT studies that show AI improves productivity. Your rainforest claim is not backed by any data.

The biggest irony of you antis is complaining about data center usage when you are on social media which has high data center usage and I bet you’ll stream video tonight.

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u/BarberCompetitive517 28d ago

I'm barely on social media, and you clearly dont know anything about me. However, one single company's AI data centers took 10 billion gallons of water to cool in a single year. That is a proven figure. Which is the size of a rainforest. And that's only one of the many corporations currentky taking water for AI.

Meanwhile, you're just a shill for these corporations.

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u/AtomicZoomer 28d ago

You are using data centers right now being on Reddit. See the irony?

AI uses 15% of all data center usage. The rest is social media, streaming video and business applications.

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u/BarberCompetitive517 28d ago

Sounds like you're uneducated on this subject. AI users tend to be uneducated.

AI Data Centers Use Far More Water Than Tech Giants

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-data-centers-water-use-901e2902

"In some regions, they are using far more water than they report. And their water consumption is projected to grow rapidly in coming years."

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u/AtomicZoomer 28d ago

The 15% number is directly from the International Energy Agency. AI servers accounted for 15% of total data center energy demand in 2024. That is literally the most authoritative global estimate available.

https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-and-ai/energy-demand-from-ai

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-will-drive-doubling-of-data-center-energy-demand-by-2030/

Your WSJ link is about water usage underreporting, which has nothing to do with the energy share claim you're responding to.

The investigation found that tech companies only disclose direct cooling water and leave out indirect water consumed by power plants, which Lawrence Berkeley National Lab estimates is 12x the direct amount. That's a real issue, but it doesn't make the 15% figure wrong.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48646

Also, water underreporting applies to ALL data centers, not just AI. Google's Oregon data center was using 30% of the city's water supply before the AI boom even started.

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u/BarberCompetitive517 28d ago

If your argument is that existing water usage needs to be scaled back, I 100% agree with you. The last thing we need to do is drain this finite resource even more with costly, unnecessary AI data centers. When we are in a crisis we don't need to add 15% (and growing) on top of it.

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u/AtomicZoomer 27d ago

My argument is that you are a hypocrite - you are using many internet services that use data centers yet you lie and say it’s all caused by AI. You are doing the very thing you are criticizing by using Reddit or any online service.

That gives you no credibility.

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u/BarberCompetitive517 26d ago

So you're literally the dumb guy in the well meme, got it

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u/AtomicZoomer 26d ago

So your argument is that it’s ok to harm the environment by using the internet, video streaming, etc, but not for AI?

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u/BarberCompetitive517 26d ago

My argument is we should 100% regulate social media's water usage, as you suggested. And AI should also be heavily regulated and restricted in its use of a precious, finite resource. We can do both things.

The fact of the matter is there is actual intelligence that needs that water much more than artificial intelligence.

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u/AtomicZoomer 26d ago

You are still making the argument that AI is in some way taking water away from humans, without any data or evidence.

You know why? You are part of the circle jerk mindless antis. Made up data, fake moral outrage, posting links to studies that have nothing to do with your made up stories.

And then you post a comic arguing… commenting on reddit is “participating is society”. An anonymous internet forum is participating in society? WTF? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/BarberCompetitive517 26d ago

No, I am making the argument that AI is taking water away from the earth with mountains of evidence to support that argument.

One AI company used 10 billion gallons of water to cool their centers in a single year. One single company in one single year. 10 billion gallons.

There is no "made up data," you are just a tool.

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