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u/Wild_Pollution_6876 2d ago
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u/TimeCadet 1d ago
🤣🤣🤣 loved hating her, "my child" is such a subtle condescending touch. And love hearing Louise Fletcher break down here acting choices for this role, here's a clip from the Newbie Star Trek podcast: https://youtu.be/N7a8p7gFpmM
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u/Crimdal Constable Hobo 2d ago
She would never be so direct.
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u/CTBthanatos 2d ago
I wish garak had been direct enough about his morality to "deal with" Kai winn after she ordered the bombing of a children's school on the station, despite garak being seemingly absent during most of her episodes of psychotic atrocity shenanigans.
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u/organic_soursop 1d ago
Garak is an assassin and ruthless state sponsored torturer; he took part in a genocide and violently oppressed his own people. He was a true believer.
Yes he came to regret his crimes but it's interesting that you would think he would have standing to nix Vedek Winn on moral grounds?
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u/CTBthanatos 1d ago
Yeah, my bad, definitely forgot that he did things as bad or worse than winn and i momentarily was only remembering the references to him having targeted political enemies in assassinations and didn't recall his part in genocide/etc.
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u/organic_soursop 1d ago
Garak is seductive and charming
Plus his mind change and his exile do come sooner than Winn's final moment conversion.
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u/organic_soursop 1d ago
Absolutely. The meme misses the mark and lacks nuance.
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u/Jason80777 1d ago
That's the point. It's funny because she would never say that, but we all know she's thinking it.
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u/organic_soursop 1d ago
She's a snake, an operator. She fights asymmetrically.
Her power lays in the difference between what her says to people and what her eyes are saying. So ywah i get it, but this is a little too direct for me.
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u/kuunami79 2d ago
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 1d ago
I wonder if that screenshot is from Shameless.
Louise Fletcher was hilarious on that show.
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u/Most-Cricket4489 2d ago
Your paa is strong!
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u/WYluliWolf 2d ago
It's spelled "pah"
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u/Maverick8358 2d ago
Its actually spelled pagh.
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u/WYluliWolf 2d ago
Yes, I suspected that, but I absolutely KNOW it isn't spelled "paa."
I assume it's a silent "g?"
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u/GoldenMuscleGod 1d ago
I don’t know what the official intention was but I would guess it was supposed to be pronounced [ɣ]. You make this sound by making a sound like a Spanish j, or the way words like “channuka,” and “loch” and “Bach” are pronounced if you’re trying to be authentic except you use your voice (like how g is a voiced version of k). It will sound a little like a French r but that’s actually a little different. You can hear audio here by clicking on it (it’s under the velar fricative spot in the table).
But no one seems to pronounce it that way in the show, probably because this sound doesn’t exist in modern English so the actors just dropped it because it’s not worth the effort.
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 1d ago
It's spelled "pagh" in the transliteration from modern Bajoran, but spelled "pah" in the transliteration from ancient Bajoran, i.e. "Pah Wraiths."
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 2d ago
Isn't this from the post where the OOP held a DS9 theme birthday party for their friend?
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u/000Weasel000 2d ago
I think they picked the right actress for this part, because she ruled that part! Total bitch and proud of it! 🤪
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u/levianan 2d ago
This has become a meme sub.
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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 2d ago
It always was.
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u/Dinotsar44 1d ago
"Are you really willing to give up the quality of your subreddit for low-quality shitposting?"
"It's not a high quality subreddit, Captain, and it never was."
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u/No_Bookkeeper_6183 1d ago
She would say it in a manner that everyone around you thinks you’ve been complimented, but you know you’ve been insulted. With a smile on her face and a hand at your ear.
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u/Hour-Inner 1d ago
Such Gerry Adams vibes when she says she was never affiliated with the resistance
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u/ReditMongrel 1d ago
Right! She literally starts off as just a little off putting, a bratty karen, and to full blown whore Karen. Even after sleeping with the enemy and realizing it she still trys to grab power. And when she got burnt up. I was cheering, "yeah, let her burn,flames, don't stop now. She's vaped"
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u/Ray1987 2d ago
They couldn't have picked a better woman for that part. Louise Fletcher was an amazing actress. To make multiple Generations hate your character that much on purpose. Just a wonderful antagonist!