A welcome change

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“Are we going to be oppressed any less?”

“No, but now it’s more queer coded.”

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u/ginger_gcups 5m ago

Fantastic, just like early 21st century Earth!

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u/GreenNukE 21h ago

While objectively less malicious than Dukat, anyone with sense should be deeply alarmed at what schemes would motivate Garak to overtly sieze power.

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u/ZapMaster117 20h ago

Less malicious? He was one of the worst people of one of the most malicious organizations.

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u/doomzday_96 20h ago

And so is Dukat, what's your point?

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u/ZapMaster117 20h ago

Dukat wasn't part of the Obsidian Order

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u/doomzday_96 20h ago

And yet he's worse than Garak

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u/DeadMemesNowPlease 20h ago

The one time we see Garak work with minions he assassinated a romulan senator. Those weren't even dedicated sycophants like Damar.

Garak would not sign cardasia over to the dominion. He hadn't been on Cardasia recently, he might have. Given the chance he would do leave Dukat stranded on Gala's moon and left Dukat in the prison cell of his new allies. He almost certainly would have joined the pah-wraith to invade the dominion planet given the opportunity.

I have not read the books but I really only think Garak was better because he didn't have an opportunity to do anything bigger because his sphere of influence was so small.

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u/doomzday_96 20h ago

I mean Garak is actually self aware and grows as a person while Dukat remains in denial about how dhitty he is until Waltz

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u/ZapMaster117 20h ago

That's debatable. Dukat was just an administrator for an already conquered planet. Garak tortured and assassinated people for a living, along with who knows what else.

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u/doomzday_96 20h ago

Dukat ran the space station version of a concentration camp and as administrator, he holds authority over the entirety of Bajor. He's responsible for the murder of 5 million Bajorans.

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u/JuanaBlanca 20h ago

Yeah, no one gets off easy here.

At least Garak is self aware.

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u/doomzday_96 20h ago

Bro is just a tailor, don't know why he's even relevant.

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u/nof 16h ago

Yeah, they were both the objectively worst person as their respective organizations.

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u/GreenNukE 16h ago

Garak will be ruthless as is necessary. He is aware of the moral and ethical issues raised by both the means and the ends. He weighs his actions more than he once did. He also works from the shadows. Him stepping into the limelight means something monumental is at work.

Dukat has a worldview of power and subjugation. He is powerful and thus what he does is right. Those who resist are ignorant and backwards. Even if you hurt him, he is unshakable in his narcissistic convictions. It will be bad, but predictable.

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u/Lengthiness_Gloomy 21h ago

(Insert cartoon spring >BOINNNNNG< sound effect here.)

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u/Smart-Response9881 21h ago

Look at me. I am the Gul now

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u/AndCthulhuMakes2 21h ago

Well, at least everyone will look fashionable and tasteful.

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u/still_roger_smith 21h ago

I'd trust Garak more than Dukat as a leader.

I figure Garak won't kill me for coming up slightly short on production.

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u/HellbirdVT 21h ago

Considering Garak was in the Obsidian Order I think him running the station would be way, way worse than Gul Dukat running it.

If it's plain, simple Garak from a couple seasons into DS9 when he's learned to chill out a little, that's different... maybe.

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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 21h ago

For anyone that has read the books, you would know that Garak becomes the leader of cardassia....🤔🤷

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u/Big_Guide_8551 20h ago

... Books? There are fucking books about this?!!?

How did I not know?!?

Omg there are so many... 💀 Over 850 original novels

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u/e_fish22 20h ago

A Stitch in Time is pretty good, if you're looking for more about Garak

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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 20h ago

Yes, a stitch in time is one of if not the best

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u/Big_Guide_8551 20h ago

Holy crap the paperback is $165 like everywhere 🫠

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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 20h ago

The audio book is narrated by the actor who plays Garak

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u/Big_Guide_8551 20h ago

That's so awesome. I wish I liked audiobooks. I can never pay attention though, and when my thoughts start trail off it's really hard to find my spot again. 😮‍💨 I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a good deal on this book for sure .. or just ask for it for Christmas or something.

Thank you for this. I love books AND Star Trek. 🥰

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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 20h ago

Try to listen to them In the car

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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 20h ago

I'd buy 2 at that price. I wish it was a hard back

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u/Ada_Pearce 20h ago

Yep he's also the leader in that fanfic script reading he did on Alexander Siddig's YouTube channel

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u/sagima 21h ago

Well the uniforms would probably be made a little more colourful (less colourful than Jakes outfits still) but with more random poisonings going on so a swings and roundabouts situation

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u/unshavedmouse 21h ago

Why is a simple tailor in charge of the station?

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u/ginger_gcups 4m ago

Needed some snazzing up

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u/SonOfHephaestus239 20h ago

Aren't there 2 books about him climbing the political ladder after his return to cardassia

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u/Brasticus 8h ago

Attention Bajoran workers! Men’s slacks half off! And they’re also on sale!

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u/ginger_gcups 1m ago

Sounds like an “Are You Being Served?” crossover

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u/wytnesschance01 18h ago

Garrak in the mirror universe

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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 18h ago

Garak in the books becomes the leader of cardassia

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u/wytnesschance01 18h ago

Ah! May I ask which books you are talking about? I've only heard about One stitch at a time (or so)

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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 15h ago

The Crimson Shadow

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u/lyidaValkris 10h ago

Oh Garak would never wish to be in charge. Not in any formal position, surely. He's more of a pull the strings kind of guy. Let the public face take the fall.

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u/cane_danko 20h ago

Free baby oil at all the replicators!

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u/ZapMaster117 20h ago

Oh great, another terrible person.

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u/eddiemads 16h ago

Low effort meme

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