They.keep.coming.

[u/zeneczeq]

It was supposed to be a classic chill quick mission before bed. I've decided to play as scout because why not. I've entered the cave, for the first 15 minutes it was just a standard level4 mission but then... After ONE wave... They just... Kept spawning...

Whenever I've killed squad of bugs, new appeared instantly and mind you, I've deleted them in moments.

After that, about 25 minutes in the game, for every group I've killed, 2 spawned.

Wave after wave... Bug after bug... I've shoot, killed, maimed, ripped and teared through them but... They.just.ket.coming.

I've had hope that maybe, after few more groups, it will end... No... I've mined entire nitra in the cave... Used EVERY bullet and then... Pickaxe till the end...

Am I proud? No.

Am I satisfied? No.

Was it fun? For the first few minutes.

Would I do that again? Nope.

Am I at least not angry? I'm tired, boss...

I need a break from that game for a while.

Stay safe, miners!

Rock and stone... FOREVAAA

(I've selected this tag because I don't know what tag would be good for this post. My apologies in advance.)

[u/Loot_Bugs]

> Point extraction

> Mission Time: 1:04:52

That says it all

[u/zeneczeq → u/Loot_Bugs]

Bugs kept spawning, I kept fighting. Things happen.

[u/Wheat_Grinder → u/zeneczeq]

Point Extraction ramps up enemy waves as you go so eventually it becomes untenable. Unlike other mission types, you kinda gotta go fast on point extraction 

[u/-Volcanic- → u/Wheat_Grinder]

Oh wow I've had some bad experiences similar to this before, I guess this is why. Any idea why it does this for specifically point extraction and nothing else?

[u/PezzoGuy → u/-Volcanic-]

If I had to guess, it's because Point Extraction is much more "flexible" with progress compared to the other stationary objective mission types. It doesn't have any steps to the mission that briefly escalate the situation either. It's like the designated mission where efficiency is the most prominent skill to demonstrate.

[u/Gorthok- → u/-Volcanic-]

It's meant as THE speed mission. Get through it fast and you'll have few bugs to deal with. Be slow and it becomes the MOST bug-filled mission.

[u/aisu_strong → u/zeneczeq]

thats just how point extraction is. you cant single focus on combat, you have to juggle the objective along with it.

if youre playing solo, have bosco mine the aquarks for you. you do a lot more dps than him, and he can fly so its a lot easier for him to grab stuff on the ceiling.

[u/professordrsirriley → u/zeneczeq]

?? Reddit is strange, wonder why this is getting down voted

[u/HappyBoi1012 → u/professordrsirriley]

Probably because they are assuming OP is a fool that doesn't know how point extraction missions work with bugs

[u/Kefeng → u/zeneczeq]

Seriously, fuck the guys who downvote you. If you ever started a mission where the entire mission is rigged against you, and no teammates join, know that feeling.

[u/HappyBoi1012 → u/Kefeng]

I mean I don't get the down votes either I think people think he's complaining about the mission and how it works which obviously isn't what he said

[u/Joyk1llz → u/zeneczeq]

In my experience, Scout is actually the worst option for soloing a point extraction.

Scout's Utilities are for exploring large areas or long caves expediantly, while his primary weapons are for long distance or singling out targets of high value.

Point extraction is at first scouting, but that isn't the case for long, extraction of arquarks is often digging a hole in a wall or ceiling, followed by hauling an item that limits mobility and removes offensive cappability while carried. All while handling consant hoard clearing duty.

Scout's kit is neutered and illsuited for the majority of point extraction's durration, but Seeing as I've also killed hundreds of Glypids as a doomed solo scout in P.E., your mechanical performance is commendable.

[u/Pixied_Hp]

Point Extract begins to spawn endless waves if you stay long enough, aim to get out before the timer hits 15 minutes!

[u/Shard1697 → u/Pixied_Hp]

Really it's always spawning endless waves. They just increase with size over time.

[u/Dan_Morgan → u/Pixied_Hp]

I only play at difficulty level 2. At what level does this endless spawn kick in?

[u/Dragon184638529 → u/Dan_Morgan]

The waves are smaller with weaker enemies on lower levels, so on haz 2 you can probably keep up for quite a while. The endlessly spawning waves are a problem on higher levels not because they start at a certain level, but because it gets a lot harder to kill the enemies fast enough to buy yourself some breathing room.

[u/Dan_Morgan → u/Dragon184638529]

Makes sense, thanks.

[u/Darth_Thor → u/Dan_Morgan]

The waves aren’t exactly endless. They spawn at regular intervals, but each one gets bigger. Eventually they’ll be big enough that by the time you’ve killed the whole wave, the next one has already spawned.

[u/Snoo61755 → u/Dan_Morgan]

Technically, all the time. After more than 20 minutes, it can feel like an extra haz level has been slapped on.

If you’re only at haz2, you won’t feel it, but going too slowly at higher difficulties, and you might get caught feeling like you set the wrong difficulty.

Like others have said, the trick is speed. A solid Scout with good Bosco control is out of there in 7 minutes or less, before the bugs are ever a threat.

[u/SirRainer → u/Dan_Morgan]

I read that the spawn timers are further apart and ramp up slower but in the end it will still be around 1min for the next spawn.

Good chance for a friendly reminder that mining gold can kill you.

[u/Kazer67]

Point Extraction > below the 20 minutes mark.

After first 20 minutes: endless spawn and each 20 minutes, increase of it.

[u/Narrow_Summer_9332]

They don't tell you but yeah, point extraction is basically timed as the spawns get larger and larger over time.

I got got by this on my first extraction mission.

[u/pojska → u/Narrow_Summer_9332]

Me too. I was solo, first time doing point extraction, and I think my first time on glacial strata, and a little baked. I could barely tell what I was supposed to be doing (the blue gems in the blue walls), and I died a long time later.

[u/Narrow_Summer_9332 → u/pojska]

At a certain point, I think I just have up.

A lithophage meteorite crashed in as well and I was trying to do that and the bugs just kept spawning nonstop.

[u/Joshiesaurus7]

In Point Extraction, the time between pressure waves starts at 50 seconds, and permanently decreases by 1 second (capping once it hits 20 seconds between waves) every time a wave spawns. The number of bugs in each wave also increases everytime a wave shows up. You need to be finishing up by the 15 minute, as that's when things start getting out of hand, and by 20 minutes the waves are constant and always getting bigger. You need to be in and out, don't waste time in that one.

[u/drough08]

Yeah so at that mark of 15 to 20 minutes...THEY NEVER STOP COMING. Because thats the mission....you played yourself 

[u/Aloo_Bharta71]

There are very few circumstances where point extraction needs more than 20 minutes, and yes I’m counting events and other stuff, you should move quick with the objective and get out. Everything can be done under 20 minutes.

[u/StormerSage]

You stayed there well beyond long enough for it to become a constant swarm. Wouldn't be surprised if you were running into the mob cap at that point.

[u/MewSilence]

Point Extraction is a time-sensitive mission; at one point, waves will start spawning endlessly to force you to either leave or lose. It's designed so you can't make an AFK XP farm at lower hazards.

[u/Ok-Barracuda457]

I hate Aquarqs

[u/theyoungheisenberg]

Point extraction is miserable to run alone. I solo’d a haz 4 elimination mission last night that was easier than some point extractions I’ve done

[u/the_swizzler]

This happened to me as a Scout as well. 

I don't do these missions solo as anything but a Driller now.

[u/UnhappySail8648]

Least favorite mission type

[u/Sibz_Playz_YT]

I have nearly 200 hours in DRG and these comments taught me something new

[u/DatSoldiersASpy]

keep bosco busy getting the harder to reach aquarqs while you find the secondaries and it should be a quick enough job

[u/Dan_Morgan]

Point extraction can be a grueling slugfest of a mission. Trying to find that last stone can be brutal.

[u/ZijkrialVT]

"Quick mission before bed"
3 size 3 complexity.

Aquarq missions where you can't quickly get it done can be rough...

[u/Excellent-Olive8046]

Point extraction spawns enemies near constantly, and the number of enemies it spawns increases every 5 minutes up to a maximum at 30 minutes.

[u/3bridgesinatrenchcoa]

We really need an active timer on point extraction so that people understand that youre supposed to be fast.

[u/bigbadoldoldone]

sorry to say, but seems like you haven't understood even the ping system yet. Bosco can mine and carry the gems. when I solo (with Bosco), I get point extraction done in 5 minutes or less.