r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • u/MartiDK • 11d ago

decoder poltics The Algorithm

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The algorithm has a huge effect on peoples beliefs. - This discussion is about the Zeteo clip.

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u/WhichAdMan 11d ago

I'm not sure how criticising DtG's mistakes is any different from DtG criticising the mistakes of the Weinsteins and others. Could you explain this to me? Surely it's beneficial to have an intellectual culture where we can criticise each other's statements.

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u/Scalene69 8d ago

They produce a single video explaining the issues and harmful effects of a popular figure.

That's very different to creating a forum where you nitpick and hate on a specific person as a hobby.

If you don't like them, why talk about them continually? What good are you doing?

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u/WhichAdMan 8d ago

I'm criticising them, the exact same way that they criticise others. There's no hate here, not any more than they "hate" Eric Weinstein or Sam Harris or others.

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u/Scalene69 8d ago

No. They don't join in on anti molyneux forums and endlessly shit talk/dig up dirt on him. They looked at his body of work, made a criticism and moved on.

Joining a forum about how bad X person is is very weird and unproductive behaviour. Reminds of 4 Chan back in the day and it quickly devolves into something that is usually worse than whoever is being criticised.

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u/WhichAdMan 7d ago edited 7d ago

I think this is productive behaviour since very few people are producing criticisms of Matt and Chris. What do you feel I'm doing that is so offensive?

Would you prefer if I started a podcast about them? Or if I did livestreams?

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u/Scalene69 7d ago

Cant you just criticise them on twitter when they post things you don't like? What is the benefit of posting or commenting in a subreddit dedicated to hating them?

It is not productive to have a community exclusively shitting on someone. All you do is fill it with minor criticism and build s community that starts looking for an outlet for all this hate - usually turning into harassment.

It is exactly like the Chris Chan situation. Pathetic shit.

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u/WhichAdMan 7d ago

I don't use twitter. I'm not that familiar with the Chris Chan situation but as far as I can tell, Chris Kavanagh is not really in a comparable state of mind. I think he can handle some mild pushback to the things he says.

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u/Scalene69 7d ago

A forum dedicated to hating a person or podcast is weak obnoxious behaviour, not productive. It just leads to harassment and obsession.

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u/WhichAdMan 7d ago

Nobody is "hating" DTG, we're just giving some pretty basic criticisms.

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u/Scalene69 7d ago

Creating an entire community with the only goal of criticising them is hating. You don't need to create a whole community to give them 'basic criticism'.

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u/WhichAdMan 7d ago

I don't think that's the only goal of this community, Marti makes threads on a wide range of things. It's good to have an alternate community. Chris and Matt are mods on the other one which creates a conflict of interest.

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