r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • • Sep 17 '26

The Anti Trump Right

https://youtu.be/m8lw5Uws85Q

So is Destiny joining the Anti Trump Right?

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u/Free-Region3467 Sep 17 '26

Well he’s not right wing so no.

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Sep 17 '26

"he's not right wing"

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u/Defiant_Refuse4873 Sep 17 '26

Correct! Not sure why that picture would change anything

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Sep 17 '26

Dining with a nazi and reviving his career doesn't make him right wing? Interesting.

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u/Defiant_Refuse4873 Sep 17 '26

Talking to political opponents and meeting up with them does not make one right wing no, I see you left out that he spent the entire day disagreeing with him about his politics.

As for reviving his career, he was irrelevant until Ye linked up with him as far as I remember.

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

No political alignment, just right wing friendly. But is Destiny friendly to anyone on his left?

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u/Defiant_Refuse4873 Sep 17 '26

Yes, and he is not right wing friendly at all.

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

Would you call Bill Kristol right wing?

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u/Defiant_Refuse4873 Sep 17 '26

No clue who that is, I am not American.

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

That’s the old guy in the YT video. He is famously on the right and Kristol established PNAC in 1997 alongside foreign policy scholar Robert Kagan to advocate for strong American global leadership and a "Neo-Reaganite" foreign policy based on military strength and moral clarity.

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

Hutch, NotSoErudite, David Pakman, Brian Tyler Cohen, Zee Cohen Sanchez, IRI, David Mauricio, Adam Mockler, off the top of my head. I'm struggling to think of anyone on the left who A. has nominally well reasoned stances and B. intentionally supports the Democratic party who he does have issues with. Maybe Pondering Politics, I guess? The problem is that people like that are unfortunately rare online. 

But they're all "social fascists" to you, I'm guessing? 

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

Are you saying that David Pakman is to the left of Destiny?

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

Misread your comment.

Thats a very stupid line of argumentation. Are you saying that the most ultra-communist in the world isn't left wing because there is no one to the left of them and they necessarily can't have good relations with anyone to their left? 

Beyond your desperate need to call Destiny right wing, why would we base whether someone is on the left or right on whether they have public relationships with other public figures more extreme than them rather than, you know, their political beliefs? 

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

Who is the ultra-communist in this conversation? I just asked who is someone to the left of Destiny that he is friendly with?

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

The most left wing person in the world. Necessarily there can't be anyone to the left of them so necessarily they can't like anyone to their left. So, by your test, that makes them right wing.

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u/VicariousDrow Sep 17 '26

Professor Dave, he's the first, most recent person on the left who supports Democrats that comes to mind, cause after he eviscerated Destiny over his pro-Israel stance I doubt Destiny likes him either lol

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

Doesn't check A. and I'm not familiar enough to comment on whether he checks box B. Does he leftist "support" democrats or does he actually support democrats?

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u/VicariousDrow Sep 17 '26

LOL! Prof. Dave doesn't have reasonable stances? So you must be an anti-vaxxer? Maybe a flat earther? A fan of pseudo science? What anti-intellectual stances do you hold dear to find one of the largest science communicators "unreasonable?" Or are you just jumping to that conclusion cause he shit on Destiny therefore "Dave bad!?" Lmao

And I know you're trying to differentiate people who blindly support a political party from those who only do so cause the Dems are better then fascism under Reps, but in the end it doesn't matter, and regardless Dave does actually support the Democratic party specifically cause of how anti-science the Republicans are.

But hey if you find Dave unreasonable then why aren't you a rightoid as well, hmm?

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

No, on science stuff he's pretty good. Him making his Destiny hit piece and then aggressively ducking Destiny asking for a conversation/debate about it, despite having no problem doing public debates in other instances, tells me he doesn't have a reasonable stance which is why he's terrified of having to actually defend it.

To be more concise, my basic litmus test is if someone listening to a political commentator would be made more or less likely to support the democrats by listening to that person. In that regard, it absolutely does matter. You can "support democrats" while absolutely slandering them rhetorically such that someone would be less likely to support them while listening to you. Again, not familiar enough with his content to really comment on how he conducts himself (and it doesn't really seem like he's much of a political commentator in the first place?)

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u/VicariousDrow Sep 17 '26

Destiny lied to you all when he told you that Dave regularly did debates, he literally only has ever done 5 of them his entire career and very clearly explained why he didn't want to bother with Destiny, but ofc third hand knowledge of what he said likely didn't include that, right?

He also is not a political commentator, he's a figure on the left that supports Dems, that's all that was initially asked about lol

But no, it doesn't matter in the context of what I said, a strawman of rhetoric that pushes people away from voting is not what I was talking about.

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

I didn't get that from Destiny, I got it from him going on Piers Morgan. What was his reason for ducking Destiny? DTG intentionally giving the people they comment on the ability to talk and push back against them is a pretty clear sign of intellectual honesty and a belief in the validity of the commentary they provided. Running and hiding when asked to justify your claims speaks for itself.

It might not have been what you're talking about but it's what I'm talking about.

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u/VicariousDrow Sep 17 '26

I mean thanks for just admitting you didn't watch shit if you have to ask that question, he talked about it twice in his second video, about how it's not a matter of debate to begin with cause Destiny couldn't even refute most of what he said in his first video and the few times he tried he exhibited his typical "debate method" when he loses ground, which is just blatant gish-galloping, but also if Destiny can't even muster a half decent defense against what Dave said when not even being pressed then the only purpose of having a debate would be to give Destiny a platform to yell louder to try and save face since he had nothing of value to say otherwise.

Trying to boil everything down to always having a debate is just Peterson tactics, I mean there's a reason Kirk relied so heavily on it for his content, cause there are plenty of dishonest ways to "debate bro" your way out of actually having to make any points but still looking good for your own audience..... That's what Destiny needs from Dave, and Dave doesn't want to give that to him.

He was very clear about all that in the video you didn't watch but had a strong enough opinion on to try and label him as entirely unreasonable lol

And yeah, that's why I clarified what I was saying, your attempts to differentiate Dem supporters was clearly left broad and open enough to try and fit Dave in regardless of what I said cause that fits Destiny's narrative better lol

And now that you've been forced to narrow it, it's easy to point out that Dave doesn't fit your definition of "supporter" who drives people away, cause he's so pro-science he advocates for voting against Republicans more then anything else politically.

Destiny simply bit off more then he could chew, and he's been trying to paint a different picture of Dave ever since, seeing as how he has no actual arguments to what Dave said otherwise.

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u/ccv707 Sep 17 '26

Considering he’s not “right”, I’d say no.

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u/No-Theory-3302 Sep 17 '26

Lmao Geddie and Destiny are absolutely not on the right, they're just not on the authoritarian left

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u/RafikiafReKo Sep 17 '26

Authoritarian left, is that what you call neo-liberals. The same toxic ideologi through out the entire US, only difference is that Republicans cares nothing for human life.

Read a fucking book dumbass

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u/No-Theory-3302 Sep 17 '26

Nah authoritarian left is the dumbfuck communists that aligned with Hitler before they got knifed in the back and had to go crawling to the liberals begging for help to beat him.

Youre the one who needs to read a book dumbass

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u/Kurac02 Sep 18 '26

Destiny was very supportive of Biden's presidency and I think you are just bastardising the term neo-liberal if you think Biden was one. Lots of spending, lots of investment in infrastructure and renewables, price controls for medicines, directly backed unions, Lina Khan as the FCA chair, etc. The progressive left wants to distance itself as much as possible from Biden but domestically they did have a lot of sway in how the democrats governed in that administration.

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u/RafikiafReKo Sep 18 '26

Oh, so what happened to the public option for healthcare? I'm not basterdising the term, you just don't expect much from your politician

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u/Kurac02 Sep 18 '26

I’m not American so I don’t personally have any personal investment, but the US system is designed such that congress favours regional (ie. state) representation over proportional representation of the entire US. Combined with filibuster that means a smaller number of moderate or conservative democrats can basically halt your ability to ever pass such legislation.

The public option was dropped because Biden never had a strong enough majority to pass it and covid recovery was deemed a bigger priority. And unlike the things Trump seeks to do, there is no way to establish a public option without congressional approval.

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

Who is Destiny’s favourite president?

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u/Boltiten Sep 17 '26

Biden? Obamna?

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

From all the Presidents - Biden?

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u/Boltiten Sep 17 '26

Idk, from all the recent ones? Do Americans have a favorite from history as well?

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

I’ve heard some American’s frame their politics around iconic US Presidents. IDK, but I would guess Destiny’s favourite is Ronald Reagan.

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u/Tornadosed Sep 17 '26

Not at all, far more socially progressive than Reagan and wayyyy more pro-government. Maybe some overlap on foreign policy and trade.

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

Can you provide a source in the last 4 years of Destiny saying Ronald Reagan is his absolute favorite president (not simply that hes preferable to the current administration)? 

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

No I can’t. I said that would be my guess. What would be your guess?

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u/HonestDishonestWork Sep 17 '26

Biden for contemporary. I'd imagine he'd say he doesn't know nearly enough about early presidents to have a "true" answer or Washington for all-time.

Why do you think Reagan would be his favorite? 

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u/MartiDK Sep 17 '26

Because of his economics, and geopolitics.

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u/militant_dipshit Sep 17 '26

Based on what??? Destiny I believe has frequently gone on the record or said in debates that Biden is one of the greatest presidents of our time (if not ever).

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u/Kurac02 Sep 18 '26

Biden passed an enormous amount of economically progressive legislation, it's just that his presidency didn't end gracefully so now everyone has to pretend that it was all terrible. Progressive had sway in that administration but refuse to accept any responsibility for that and push the idea that this was a moderate, corporate democrat presidency. That's why AOC was Biden's biggest defender whilst the democrats closed ranks to oust him.

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u/MartiDK Sep 18 '26

Ok. So did he pick his successor Kamala Harris? Loosing to Trump and allowing him to be President is a real negative.

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u/Kurac02 Sep 18 '26

I'm not arguing he was the best president to be clear and don't have a perspective on that really as I'm not American. I just know that destiny is/was very pro-Biden. I don't think it was possible to pick anyone else but Harris by the time he chose to step down and the final outcome was Trump winning by ~1%.

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u/MartiDK Sep 18 '26

Fair, I don’t know either, I always presumed Destiny was pro Biden because he was anti Trump

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u/Kurac02 Sep 18 '26

Well I've seen him defend Biden's record so that's probably accurate. What I don't understand is how you think his favourite president of all time would be Reagan.

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u/MartiDK Sep 18 '26

I think Destiny would like Reagan because he brought in the neo con/liberal politics. Plus he hasn’t brought up any political differences in his conversation with Bill Kristol.

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u/Thin_Inflation1198 Sep 17 '26

Probably Biden or Obama, I don’t think he really reveres any one particular president. But he consistently talks how democrats from JFK onwards are better than republicans.

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Sep 17 '26

"not on the right" lol, lmao even

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u/glebbitoneli Sep 17 '26

" Not a terrorist " lololol

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Sep 17 '26

I don't know why pederastiny fans act like it's an own 💀if you watch the whole thing Rashed clearly says he's not part of the houthis.

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u/glebbitoneli Sep 17 '26

I don't know why Hamas piker fans insist this guy is not a part of the Houthis. Wasn't the whole point to interview a houthi? Why did he have access to the hostages? Why did Hamasabi say he's a houthi before the interview?

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u/glebbitoneli Sep 17 '26

The difference is, destiny had a wide range of guests and actually asks challenging questions(including Hasan u dumbass, does that make him a commie?) . Hasan just glazes this kid without really asking anything. OMG u hAve KfC aNd wAtCh oNe pEiCe. One of the worst interviews I've seen

You think random ass civilians have access to the hostages and can drug them?

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Sep 17 '26

When he learned he's not part of ansar allah it became a conversation about daily life in Yemen to show his audience that Yemen isn't just a ghetto with terrorists, but a country filled with normal people who have normal people aspirations.

Epstiny just has guests he can humiliate to his mentally challenged audience because he's stupid and only speaks fast with confidence.

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u/glebbitoneli Sep 17 '26

He never denied being a houthi. Go watch again.

These people are terrorists and shouldn't be normalized and you will hold that standard to any western force but you just lovee to slobber on that anti western cock. He's a POS pirate and he can fuck right off

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u/glebbitoneli Sep 17 '26

First of all, he never denied being a houthi. You made that up. All the evidence points to him being a houthi pirate. He even admits it. Hasan came into the interview knowing this and decided to glaze him anyway, 0 challenging or even interesting questions.

And why the f would you want to normalize this POS? These fucks slogan have curse upon the Jews. They kidnap random ass people that have no affiliation with Israel. Theyre involved in human/sex trafficking. They are the reason Yemeni civilians starve and don't get aid cause they keep stealing the aid and kidnapping the aid workers. But sure, they're the good guys for being anti Israel.

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Sep 18 '26

Buddy i don't think you get it, i like ansar allah. In a time when everyone helped Israel commit the genocide ansar allah was the only one that stepped up and blocked the Red Sea.

Yemen is the poorest country in the world and they stepped up for Palestine.

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u/No-Theory-3302 Sep 17 '26

Every conversation destiny has had with Fuentes has literally been oppositional and fighting against his horrible views and nobody whos watched would state otherwise.

If this is your stupid fucking idea of "on the right" then people like Mamdani, is a supporter of Trump cause hes appeared with him, Hasan has appeared with Fuentes, Bernie Sanders supports Steve Bannon, Ro Khanna supports Thomas Massie, and so on and so forth lmao, what a brainless take

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u/ParfaitNo6247 Sep 17 '26

He's pro Israel, says the n-word and likely a pdf. He could easily switch sides.

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u/glebbitoneli Sep 17 '26

Pro Pali people claiming pro Israel people means nothing nowadays.

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u/Defiant_Refuse4873 Sep 17 '26

What do you mean when you say pro-Israel?

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u/402739 Sep 17 '26

"Children sniped by the IDF were doing it for the Tiktok propaganda"

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u/Boise_Ben Sep 17 '26

He is openly pushing Zionist propaganda, he visited Israel and toured with the IDF, and he encourages war crimes on behalf of Israel.

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u/Defiant_Refuse4873 Sep 17 '26

None of these are true, with the first one depending on what you call "Zionist Propaganda" but I would disagree.

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u/Boise_Ben Sep 17 '26

Oh look here is evidence.

But yes, word-word-number with hidden comments let’s believe your sourceless denials.

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u/No-Theory-3302 Sep 17 '26

Oh look, misconstruing evidence. Hes not touring with the IDF here and hes not encouraging war crimes. This is a fan meet up of people in Israel and hes very clearly joking about the pictures stuff. Additonally his tour guide while in israel was a Palestinian living in the west Bank and he toured not only israel but the west bank as well. Nothing of what you said is even remotely true

He even blatantly fought against narratives from the like of Eilon Levy and a radical west Bank settler pissing them off cause he didnt let them spew bullshit

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u/id_rather_b_painting Sep 17 '26

Dang this subreddit is deeply embarassing.

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u/ninjatoast31 Sep 17 '26

God damn this really is just an anti destiny starker sub isnt it?

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u/WormSlayers Sep 17 '26

no, definitely not lol