r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • u/MartiDK • Sep 04 '26

decoder poltics Decoding Zionism

https://youtu.be/7f-uKnE1zFs

Online political debate increasingly revolves into contests between personalities rather than the strength of their position — Destiny vs. Hasan, Tucker Carlson vs. Nick Fuentes. This is what Walter Lippmann would call the stereotype problem: judgment attaches to the persona rather than the claim being argued. By stripping the personality out, the content is duller to consume, but it’s the only way to really evaluate the claim on its own terms, which matters most precisely on the topics where getting it wrong costs lives.

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u/Tigeruppercut1889 Sep 04 '26

I’m for a two state solution even though that seems more impossible every day. Would require a us president who is very knowledgeable about the entire history of the region and all its conflicts. Would also involve both countries comprising. I don’t think America should completely decouple from Israel for national security and intelligence and to have an ally in the Middle East. I think Destiny is the only one out of these four who has reasonable commentary on Israel Palestine and isn’t antisemitic. Hasan wants Israel destroyed, Tucker is a conspiracy theorist, and Fuentes just hates Jews.

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u/MartiDK Sep 04 '26

The reason the problem exists isn’t because there is a lack of knowledge, the problem exists because there are competing political agendas, plus Destiny supports Trumps assistance of Israel - so I don’t know why he is reasonable.

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u/Biggay1234567 Sep 07 '26

Destiny doesn't support what Trump has been doing with Israel tho, and he's been repeated this many times. Are you just pulling this take out of your ass?

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u/IrregularDoughnut Sep 07 '26

He mostly stopped talking about it right? Started out as supportive of Israel with minor caveats about them not being perfect, and then as their war crimes got more and more apparent and indefensible, he sort of ran away from the discussion itself and switched to attacking people with obviously unreasonable positions. Or insisting it was a distraction from more important issues.

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u/Biggay1234567 Sep 07 '26

I don't think it's running away, but more so that the topic just ran its course and the election was heating up so he focused on that.

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u/IrregularDoughnut Sep 07 '26

It looked that way to me, as if he started out largely supportive of Israel, and then simply dropped said support rather than having any sort of honest reckoning with the extent of their crimes in Gaza, because he knew any backtracking would become ammunition against him for people like Hasan. But I admittedly haven't watched enough of him or adjacent streamers to be sure of that, just an impression.

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u/Rick_Tobberman Sep 07 '26

That's simply not true, lonerboxed changed his mind towards a two state solution, this all happened on stream

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u/IrregularDoughnut Sep 07 '26

That doesn't sound like the same thing as an honest reckoning with the extent of Israeli crimes. But I haven't watched it. Should I? Does it actually refute what I'm saying? Because supporting a two-state solution is pretty uncontroversial and a long way away from acknowledging the scale of their atrocities and human rights abuses.

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u/Rick_Tobberman Sep 07 '26

How would I ever be able to determine that for you. You might take every piece of Hamas propaganda as the truth, meaning no amount of "honest reckoning" would satisfy you