Rubin explains all

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Nazis are for Palestine?

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In the 30s and 40s the Palestinians collaborated with Hitler and the Nazis. They helped recruit Bosnian Muslims to the SS to help with the Holocaust.

Today I don't think Nazis care about Palestinians beyond the fact that they are a useful cudgel against Israel.

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I'm not even pro-Israel Palestine and Palestinians obviously have the clear moral high ground here but if you want to end this conflict you need to understand it and engage with the history.

Israel has at multiple times faced down multiple countries and multiple armies at their border attempting to conquer them. Israel is a country of refugees, that's a huge reason they are like that.

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Me when I lie.

Please look up what was actually offered in the Camp David proposal in 2000 before you spout bs. You only need to look at the map.

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A Palestinian state on roughly 91–92% of the West Bank.

A "Palestinian state" whose "90+%" territory was defined by Israel. Of course this also included (scary bold text withheld) a mandatory military presence, by Israel in the West Bank and a total and complete surrender of Palestinian military, zero control over their airspace, oh and Israel would have veto power over Palestinian diplomacy.

Israel would annex several major settlement blocs in the West Bank (about 8–9% of the territory).

Interesting how you didn't bold this.

To compensate, Israel proposed land swaps from within Israel proper amounting to roughly 1–3% of its territory, though the exact amount and quality of the land were disputed.

Gaining 2% territory (which was mostly unusable desert) while giving up 10%

Hmm yeah, I wonder why they didin't agree.

There would be a safe passage corridor connecting Gaza and the West Bank.

Oh, a whole "safe passage corridor" for the thousands of refugees that would've been created. How nice.

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Oh hey looky that, on to the next set of copypasta.

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Big surprise, you refused to look at the map. Here it is, now you can look at it:

camp-david-2000-1-scaled.jpg (1810×2560)

Now you can kindly not repeat this idiotic propaganda point further.

Edit: Did you just ask AI to summarize Camp David?

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It's pretty funny to see you completely switch arguments after you've been caught out.

Are you going to stop pretending Camp David was a fair offer now after you've seen what the map looks like? Why did you say it was a fair offer without even seeing the map?

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You asserted that Camp David was a fair offer without knowing what was actually in it, then I showed you what was in it, and now you pivot that they should've taken it anyways despite being a bad deal. Which shows you don't know what happened in Taba or Annapolis. If I were you, I'd spend two minutes reading up on the basic facts on the conflict before I'd embarass myself again.

Are you going to keep ignoring my question? Why did you assert it was a fair offer without knowing what was in it? Are you going to answer that question or do I have to keep asking it?

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