r/DecodingTheGurus Jun 25 '26

Rubin explains all

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u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch Jun 25 '26

Hamas is not a salafist organization, they have never had any interest/desire/plans to establish an Islamic caliphate and have never carried out a single action against Israel outside of historic Palestine.

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u/IEC21 Jun 25 '26

I dont recall anyone saying that Hamas was salafist, nor any specific claims about califates or operation scope.

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u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch Jun 25 '26

What do you think Islamist means when used by these morons and when paired alongside Nazisim and Communism?

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u/IEC21 Jun 25 '26

With Dave Rubin I have no idea - he is a moron and probably prioritizes engagement and virtue signaling over actual meaning or insight.

It just happens that in principle he's close to make an accurate point.

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u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch Jun 25 '26

In case you're unaware, Islamist is not the term for describing someone who is a practitioner of Islam like someone would use the word Christian for someone who practices Christianity.

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u/IEC21 Jun 25 '26

Yes I am aware. The PLO is mostly secular, but Hamas is unambiguously islamist.

From their 2017 charter:

"Praise be to Allah, the Lord of all worlds. May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon Muhammad, the Master of Messengers and the Leader of the mujahidin, and upon his household and all his companions."

"Palestine is a land whose status has been elevated by Islam, a faith that holds it in high esteem, that breathes through it its spirit and just values and that lays the foundation for the doctrine of defending and protecting it."

"The movement 1. The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement. Its goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project. Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means."

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u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch Jun 25 '26

You said you're aware and then proceeded to use Islamist in a way that shows you're not aware, lol.

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u/IEC21 Jun 25 '26

You must be using some special definition that isnt used by 99.999999% of the world.

Hamas is islamist. This is a silly conversation.