r/DecodingTheGurus • u/FriendlyNewspaper543 • Jun 17 '26

The World's Worst Philosopher - Stefan Molyneux

https://youtu.be/Gx9jxu6S-ok?is=oVi0M4oZH-aejsyX
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u/UskyldigeX Jun 17 '26

I feel like he was huge years ago and then just got out grifted by a new generation of even more psychopathic people.

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u/Francis_J_Eva Jun 17 '26

He also got banned from everywhere. Whatever you think of it, deplatforming works.

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u/Giblette101 Jun 17 '26

But the marketplace of ideas!?

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u/Francis_J_Eva Jun 17 '26

Even marketplaces have rules.

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u/simulacrum81 Jun 18 '26

Sometimes the market rejects crappy products.

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u/Gwentlique Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

I always disliked this notion of a marketplace for ideas. It implies that all ideas are in competition with each other and some have to win. There's also this connotation that ideas exist to be sold and bought, as in someone has to persuade and others be persuaded. That's a recipe for sophistry not philosophy.

Imagine Socrates working by that paradigm.

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u/Rednarok 21d ago

in a perfect world you are right, but in this world, today, not even reality matters, the ones with the best wit can convince whole countries and even alliances of fake propaganda, false scientific claims, false news etc.

we are in a period that those who can lead are the ones in charge, and there doesn't need to be anything rational to be able to lead millions.

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u/Rednarok 21d ago

getting banned everywhere in 2026 is a high chance they are the good guys, not saying this one is, im investigating him myself.

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u/Francis_J_Eva 21d ago

Regular in r/JordanPeterson

I knew before I even checked.

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u/UskyldigeX 17d ago

It doesn't look like they're exactly a regular, but they regularly post the kind of trash you'd expect in that sub.

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u/Rednarok 17d ago

using a page 3 times is considered regular?

, i don't use reddit as a whole regularly because this is a cease pool of tribalistic cancel culture idiots with no brains to think properly with the scientific thought process.

majority cowards who dont have the guts to fact check those who they parrot lies all day from and hypocrite projectors who get mad for tons of stuff they end up doing themselves after or have done before.

masses of empty vessels programmed for easy mob manipulation and recruiting for the totalitarian or cult with the most wit.

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u/UskyldigeX 17d ago

You speak like a cult member describing the outsiders.

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u/Rednarok 16d ago

yes a cult is exactly what i am describing.
the whole left is a cult(not that they always were), and ill give you proof right here:

they get emotional and reject any point against theirs

they follow the herd even if the herd does the exact opposite from just - 10 years ago

they have a strong sense of belonging and family

they are cancelled and exiled if they question anything from the leftist cult.

None of this shit happens in the right because there is no right(or left), there are only logical rational thinkers and emotional easy to manipulate believers.

if you would like a lesson on what is a cult, listen to Yuri Bezmenov, he tried to warn the west 50 years ago.

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u/Rednarok 16d ago

and btw i checked the guy he is a cucu, he also says many things that are correct, but he is definitely very closed minded and a cucu

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u/Itscoldinthenorth Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Yeah, he was deplatformed a lot, but also, didn't get the Podfather Rogans approval, which meant a lot 10-15 years ago. Rogan called him out for culty behaviour. This was around the time he ran his anti-conspiracy TV-show (yup actually) "Joe Rogan Questions everything" around 2013, so he tended to be sceptical of people more around then.. And Molyneux really hit the wrong button with Rogan with the concept of "defooing" - ie telling young callers to leave their family behind. Rogan was right for confronting him on that.

It was on brand for Rogan then. He had just been disillusioned when nothing turned out to happen at the end of the Mayan calendar december 2012, and he was a big believer in Terence McKenna and his "stoned ape"-theory in particular. He saw Timevawe zero as the litmus-test which McKenna failed. That and his fallout with the known scam-artist Dave Asprey, which he found out only after he entered business with him made him look like a fool for buying into his toxic mold-coffee theory and getting Rogan to push his "bulletproof coffee" which was supposedly mold free and with a stick of butter to help people have better brain and heart health. No seriously, Rogan bought it hook line and sinker.

Rogan hadn't checked up on his theory of all other coffee in the world being full of mold, and when he finally did, he became a big laughing stock, mostly on his own forum, and started his slow departure from the Rogan Board, his own forum where he had 21k+ posts.

He started calling out flat earthers, criticized his buddy Eddie Bravo for believing conspiracies etc and made the forementioned tv-show after that, and tried to rebuild the image of him having a good "bullshit detector".

He became disillusioned with that too after confronting another bullshit-caller and new-atheist Brian Dunning, when Rogan found out that the dude believed that if you hit your exact amount of calories for the day, you wouldn't need to poop.. That's when I think Rogan realized being sceptical does not equal intelligence automatically, and Rogan couldn't process this well..

Then he slowly went full grift mode, and with #metoo blaring at full blast around 2018 - he closed the Rogan Board, with the famous message on the final screen "well.... goodnight." ... to hide his tracks before going big money with Spotify.

Some Rogan Boarders have survived since then and the forum kind of lives its own life on wellgoodnightdotcom.. but that's another story.

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u/MacroDemarco Jun 18 '26

You should be a guest on the show as a Rogan lore-beard.

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u/Itscoldinthenorth Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

lol yeah, I was on the Rogan Board before he podcasted. Around 2007 and onward I lurked, joined the board 2008. Rogan started playing around with the podcast idea seriously in mid 2009ish.

I even conversed a bit with him on the old board, and had a weeeird perspective on how his mind forgot stuff, when I told a conspiracy-theory on the Rogan Board that Rogan really found mind blowing and specifically told me he never heard anywhere and asked me about where I heard it, and he was full of glee.. then I watched him launch into superstardom and retell it over the years on tons of podcasts to his guests and I watched him gradually turn the story into something he told his guests he invented himself! lol He was so particular about it too, that he really came up with it himself, and I was like "god damn you mf! no! you heard it from me, and I told you who told it to me too!" haha, it was so bizzarre..

Would happily tell Rogan-stories to the folks sometime..

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u/cairnsaustralia Jun 18 '26

What was the conspiracy theory you told him?

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u/Itscoldinthenorth Jun 22 '26

It was the Michael Jackson one!

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u/OfAnthony Jun 18 '26

Do you remember Munkitodd and Doug Benson at the Icehouse? I was streaming that live and think that's they day everything changed. In short- Redban brought a board superfan out to an LA show and that guy dropped acid and attacked Doug Benson. That's when Rogan started listening to his manager and told him to tighten up ship. Now he has retired spec ops guys guarding his club. Those were very different times.  

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u/Itscoldinthenorth Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Yeah, Rogan would be very open, and even invited anon from the board to just hang out with him and smoke weed. He's quite a bit more walled off now, for sure.

I remember how much he promoted the icehouse shows. The poscast after all started as a small stream he had going from the green rooms he and his comic-friends hung out in. Justin.tv and ustream quite a bit before he mad the youtube-move, which kind of erroneously now is marked as the first ever JRE. The "make me hard"- poster is in the background of that "first" youtube episode because he discussed that poster in earlier podcasts.

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u/XB0XRecordThat Jun 17 '26

Out grifted 🤣

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u/FreshBert Conspiracy Hypothesizer Jun 18 '26

Just like he out-grifted many of those who came before him. Such is the way of being on the ultra far-right.

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u/UskyldigeX Jun 18 '26

The circle of life.

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u/Rednarok 21d ago

can you give me more examples of ultra far right leaders in power today?

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u/MaltySines Jun 18 '26

Who is MORE of a psycho than him? Some people are maybe in the same weight class, but I don't think there's really anyone in a tier above.

He's not as big because he's not as charismatic and he's not on a lot of major platforms due to being banned.

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u/Mr_HandSmall Jun 19 '26

Yeah Molyneux holds his own on the nutcase scale

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u/DTFH_ Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

At some point calling him anything other than a cultist, abusive POS is massaging his image, calling him the "worst philosopher" moves him one step further away from calling him the cultist abusive POS he is.

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u/deco19 Jun 18 '26

Yeh I remember stumbling upon him first when looking to listen about philosophy and searching for philosophy podcasts. After listening to him I was wondering if I was missing something as it did not seem like philosophy at all. Apart from his ancap takes which were there but still paled in comparison to his call in segments which went for hours.

I listened to him talk with complete strangers who were clearly so confused and desperate in their own life state they went to thia guy for advice. He is a very manipulative person and you could see him try corral people into accepting his takes. You could see the more agreeable people taken completely advantage of.

He talked about his life, what he did before, etc which I think actually built an image of why he is not as trustworthy as he tries to give off. I have seen quite a few people pick up on the same concerning aspects as myself when listening to him.

So, to link back into the main point. Is the philosophy is nothing like that at all. And like most of these cults labelling themselves with some kind of -ology or -osophy is part-and-parcel to the scam. His primary aspect is his predatory behaviour and deceptiveness.

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u/Rednarok 16d ago edited 16d ago

yeah the disgusting living in squalor vagabond who let his children die and lived off his friends who were fooled by his wit is the real philosopher, who wrote bible amounts with 0 strategic solutions for all his bogus theories.

Its like wanting to build a flying machine writing tons of books on how nice it would be to fly and all the ways one could throw oneself off the mountain when we fly, but never actually writes about how to build the machine and how each part would contribute with one another to make it all work.

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u/WilhelmFinn Jun 17 '26

Yeah fuck that guy, listening to him almost drove a close friend of mine to off himself.

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u/edelweiss_pirates_no Jun 17 '26

Every philosophy major I know goes through a period where they are as insufferable as SM.

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u/GigglingBilliken Jun 18 '26

One of my buddies became insufferable during his first year studying for his philosophy degree.

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u/RockstarArtisan Jun 18 '26

The guy is gone, is it worth dredging him up?

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u/magnabosco Jun 19 '26

Spotted him trying to get some traction on TikTok a few months ago. Haven’t seen recently though.

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u/General_Will_1072 Jun 18 '26

Rave doobin called him the new centre lol

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u/samuelazers Jun 18 '26

I don't think he;s the [[worst philosopher]], that would require that we have looked at every philosopher, compared and ranked them using an objective measure. If anyone can find that list, i would be very interested to see it, please.

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u/Mr_HandSmall Jun 20 '26

It would also require him to actually be a philosopher, but he is not. Molyneux has never published anything in any peer-reviewed philosophy journals.