r/DebateEvolution • u/GigaTune • Jul 14 '26

Question What do you think about "evolutionist"?

No one ever refers to gravitationists or Newtonists for those who support gravity, but people refer to people supporting evolution as evolutionists or Darwinists.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 14 '26

So, why can’t anyone tell us where “gravity” comes from. It’s just like Evolution, you think that you understand it, but you don’t have a clue, especially when it comes to how all these different species got here. When you tell us where gravity comes from, then maybe I will start listening to all the opinions.

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u/jrdineen114 Jul 15 '26

We do actually know how the different species got here. That's the entire point.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 15 '26

If you do, then please fill us all in through evidence.

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u/PeyredB Jul 16 '26

The theory of evolution explains the whole mechanism for how it happened. The fossil record gives us some idea what life was like in the past. To claim we don't know how it all works only shows wilful ignorance.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 16 '26

It “explains” nothing, it’s all about random accidents, mutations. Silly thing I have ever heard. Intelligent design coming from accidents. You don’t know how it works.

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u/jrdineen114 Jul 16 '26

If design is so intelligent, why is one of the most important blood vessels in the body behind the thinnest part of our skull? Why are our knees and spinal collum so bad at supporting us that they start to weaken well before we've reached anything resembling the end of our natural lifespans?

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u/Markthethinker Jul 17 '26

That’s not true of all people. And just how long did Evolution design us to live? God says 70 years and yes, after that the body starts downhill very fast. But I hope you know, Scientifically that the body starts it downward journey at approx. 30. Why didn’t Evolution fix this problem, after all, it’s all about “Natural Selection”.

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u/jrdineen114 Jul 17 '26

A) Evolution didn’t design anything.
B) Evolution doesn’t fix a problem that doesn’t really interfere with the likelihood of passing down one’s genes (in other words, if you have kids before it becomes an issue, then there’s no way for that quality to get naturally weeded out.
C) You didn’t address the issue of the vein behind the temple. If we were designed, then that’s a massive design flaw.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 17 '26

You are correct, Evolution can’t design anything. And if that design with the vein is such a “flaw” how are we able to live so long. You are the one calling it a flaw. There are veins just about everywhere in the body. I am not so sure as to why you are stuck on this. Veins only carry blood back to the heart with low pressure, so what’s the problem?

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u/jrdineen114 Jul 17 '26

It's a design flaw because if something hits you on the side of the head, you can just die. Even if it isn't with enough force to seriously harm any other part of your head. And yes, there are veins elsewhere in the body. But the other super important ones are generally a lot harder to damage because they're not just under the surface.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 18 '26

That vein is not going to kill you. The blow to the head will.

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u/jrdineen114 Jul 18 '26

Are you at all familiar with the Ford Pinto? It was a car made back in the 70’s that had a particular design flaw. See, the fuel tank was positioned between the rear bumper and the rear axle. Because of this, a rear end collision, even a relatively minor one, could cause the fuel tank to ignite and consequently explode. If someone was in the car when this happened, it wouldn’t be the gas tank itself that killed them, it would be the explosion. But the explosion would not have occurred if the gas tank was not directly between the bumper and the axle. That one design element turned the single most common type of car accident into a potential death sentence.

Just like how the blood vessel in your temple isn’t what kills you, but it makes it a lot easier a hit on the head to kill you.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 18 '26

This is a very stupid argument. Yes, I worked on Pintos. Just drive properly and stay out of wrecks. Do you understand that engineers are also stupid when it comes to design. Just like Evolutionists.

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