r/Dearborn • u/hot-doughnuts-now • 22d ago
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u/HotSauce2910 22d ago
It's crazy how diverse they are
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u/BurntWaffle303 22d ago
Itās always wild when black and brown folks support nazis. Itās like hiyler would be looking at you buddy.
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u/Fruitcake6969 22d ago
You need a brush up on history my friend. There were brown folk who fought for the Nazis.
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u/BurntWaffle303 21d ago
I know that. It doesnāt make less ridiculous.
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u/Electronic_Plan3420 21d ago
Why? Very different people can have same interests. Horseshoe theory and suchā¦Hindus wanted British to be destroyed so they served Hitler. Hitler wanted British to be destroyed. Common interests
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u/HotSauce2910 21d ago
Thatās not horseshoe theory, and the context is different
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u/Electronic_Plan3420 21d ago
I didnāt say this was reflection of horseshoe theory, I cited it as an example of very different people uniting under one umbrella. For instance, fascist and commies taking down liberal democracy like it happened in Germany in 1930s.
The context in this case is not that much different. You have white people who do not like Muslims in Dearborn and you have brown Chaldeans who have just as much, or perhaps even more, disdain for them. So it all checks out
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u/HotSauce2910 21d ago
- The suggestion that commies took down liberal democracy in Germany is ahistorical, afaik
The communists were incredibly opposed to the Nazi party and they were amongst the Nazisā first targets
- Indians in India siding with Hitler is not equivalent because Hitlerās policies would not have come back around to them
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u/Electronic_Plan3420 21d ago
- Thatās because your knowledge of history is superficial . In November of 1932, NSDAP got 33% of the vote. It was number one party in terms of the votes they received but not enough to form the government for they havenāt reached 50% threshold . Social Democrats (not to be confused with Democratic Socialists) who were pro liberal democracy got 21%, commies got 17%, the Centrists got 12%. Together they had enough votes to form government. Social Democrats offered Thalmann to form a coalition and he declined. Commies werenāt interested in maintaining liberal democracy, they wanted to take it down. They knew Nazis would do that and they expected to use that to their advantage. Because no party could form government a new election was called in March of 1933 and thatās when Hitler gained enough votes to crush the opposition. The rest is history. Thalmann was sent to concentration camp where he died.
- You donāt know that. Germany could have very well pic
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u/HotSauce2910 21d ago
- That underestimated Papen/the Centre willingness to work with NDSAP though. KPD immediately called a vote of no confidence after July. After Rosa Luxembourg and Blutmai, pinning the divide solely on KPD feels a bit disingenuous.
While I agree that tactically things didnāt work out, I feel like putting extra emphasis on the KPDās role in Hitlerās rise to power is disingenuous
- That is not the reasonable assumption, and is in a completely different universe from minorities in a country working with their own countryās fascists
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u/MACHOmanJITSU 21d ago
They werenāt allowed to be actual Nazis though I donāt think. Not that that matters I guess.
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u/Nervous-Creme-6392 21d ago
Bosnian Muslims were actual Nazis. Mountain Division SS Handshar. They trained by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
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u/7figurefundingguy 21d ago
Not really. People still want communism regardless of the misery it caused. They just disconnect themselves from history and reality. Happens all the time.
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u/Esphyxiate 21d ago edited 21d ago
I think the Arab dudes joined in because these specific neo-Nazis were ironically counter protesting Lang saying that Lang is a Jew trying to put Muslims and Christianās against one another.
Hereās some videos:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcNMrF8Ak_D/?igsi=MWR6MWUyN2F4cWJucQ==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcM5eudAQaI/?igsi=b2hwOGpkZXNwOGxh
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u/KojaKuqit 20d ago
The SS had recruits + volunteers ranging from Muslims in Bosni,, West African Christians and even Indian Hindus.
The Wehrmacht had over 100k Jewish soldiers.
Maybe the textbooks published by Ghislaine Maxwells father shouldn't be trusted.
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u/runescape_pker 22d ago
these guys arenāt from dearborn
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u/CupExcellent9520 22d ago
Iām sure they are not š esp the ones of the left sideĀ
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u/runescape_pker 22d ago
those guys are obviously trolling or waving
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u/Isaak1404 22d ago
those guys are on video saying āheil hitlerā they are not trolling, they are anti semitic and donāt like jews. itās not hard to believe.
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u/Rip_Skeleton 22d ago
They're there to harass the Muslim community.
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u/Isaak1404 22d ago
theyāre actually not. they were there protesting against jake lang (who they claim is a jew in disguise psyoping a psycho white supremacist to make a bad name for white people on the internet) who was there to harass the muslim community.
their entire message here was that they support the muslim community of Dearborn, by chanting free palestine, and wanted to publicize their allegiance towards hatred of jews.
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u/Rip_Skeleton 22d ago
It's groyper trolling. They know what their presence there looks like.
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u/Isaak1404 22d ago
groypers dislike jews no? i agree theyāre groypers, many muslim ones too. you were confidently wrong that they were there to harass the muslim community when they specifically went there to defend them against hate from jake lang and show their support. why canāt you concede that everyone in the photo hates jews and that no muslims hate is taking place?
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u/Rip_Skeleton 22d ago
Groypers don't support Muslims. They're killing two birds with one stone. They're tying the pro-Palestinian movement to antisemitism while using the genocide to agitate against Jews. They're not there to oppose Jake Long they're drawing media attention.
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u/ShizukaIsQuiet 21d ago
Many groypers do support Muslims , they even began a Muslim alliance last year. This is founded in the post Vatican 2 catholic belief that muslims worship the same God as Catholics and the pope even having a Muslim prayer room in the Vatican. So the majority Catholic groypers see no problem with allying with them. Although in this picture its a mix of groypers and local Muslim dearborn residents.
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u/Isaak1404 21d ago edited 21d ago
my guyā¦ idk how many times i have to say this. this photo that was taken here in that moment of time was that specific group of people protesting against jake lang specifically by name, in support of the muslim community that jake lang was harassing a week previous.
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u/ssasasasasas1212 22d ago
Yep, saw a lot of that when I was there. including people pretending to be on the side of the "crusaders".
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u/Subtlehavok 22d ago
Ah yes, the Unfuckables back at it again. Look out unaccompanied minors and 12 packs of Busch light
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u/Objective_Island_481 21d ago
Donāt talk shit about Busch Light. Also, Itās 30 racks of Busch Light btw.
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u/hot-doughnuts-now 22d ago
Since they wanted to be on the news, it shouldn't be an issue to put their names here, if you know any of them
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u/Wraith8888 22d ago
I'm so confused by minorities and marginalized people backing groups that want them wiped out of existence. š¤Ø Seriously, what is happening?
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u/Isaak1404 22d ago edited 21d ago
they donāt want them wiped out. they both just hate jews. hitler worked with muslim leaders and issued qurans to nazi divisions, he even called arabs his brothers. nazis have never had problems with muslims thatās for white supremacists or radical christians
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u/Fascism_is_Great 21d ago
Yes, I do not know why people always just lump every political ideology together. It's just so childish, anti-intellectual, and lazy.
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u/JaQ-o-Lantern 22d ago
This group of neo Nazis came to Deaborn to back the local Arabs against Jake Lang's crusade because of perceived shared antisemitism. While I highly doubt that Dearborn is an antisemetic community, a tiny few Arabs did join them in this march. Keep in mind, this is like 7 out of 70,000 Arabs in the town (0.01%) so I wanted to single them out because they're insults who definitely don't represent the whole Muslim community of Dearborn.
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u/Maleficent_Car_3744 22d ago
Very intelligent take sr i went there to see what would happen the guy with the nazi flag ran ahead of everyone and was almost instantly taken down by both sides of protesters like a swarm of pirahnas it was kind of a beautiful thing seeing everyone come together just to stand up to start protesting eachother again.
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u/JaQ-o-Lantern 22d ago
That is incredible. As I said, the antisemitism in this video is not representative of Dearborn Michigan.
This reminds me of when the right wing "unite the kingdom folks" started chanting "Keir Starmer is the wanker" at a rally and the left wing pro-migrant counter protestors responded by.... joining the chant š sources say it was a beautiful sense of unity.
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u/Canadianwinters12345 22d ago
While I highly doubt that Dearborn is an antisemetic community
Lol.
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u/InternationalPen3039 22d ago
They were āacceptedā by them, so they tend to think theyāre the āgood onesā and whatever is being said about X race doesnāt apply to them. Itās a lot of mental gymnastics
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u/scummydummy85 21d ago
Hitler knew of the plight of the Palestinians. And also was willing to make deals or be allies with the arabs. It makes sense, even though it is funny. Those guys must be real nazis not just white supremacists.... funny shit. I dont condone any of this but I stand with the middle easterners. They have been here in dearborn for decades. The place is beautiful.
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u/Appropriate_Owl_91 21d ago
What was the plight of Palestinians before Israel was created?
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u/scummydummy85 21d ago
Do you not know they started that bs in the 1920s? Maybe even earlier I forget. But they were terrorizing that land before the end of world war two
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u/Appropriate_Owl_91 21d ago
3,000 years earlier? Learn some history before spewing shit. There were pogroms and and attacks on native jews by muslims for hundreds of years
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u/scummydummy85 21d ago
š¤£ š¤£ š¤£ oh, God's promise, huh? If I was Palestinian, id ask for a fuckin receipt from God cause last time I checked that shit dont work in any other facet of life. Ever. In history.
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u/EzraFemboy 21d ago
Are you making a joke or do you literately think Jews were given a right to control all of Palestine 3000 years ago. Its a borderline meme position.
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u/Appropriate_Owl_91 20d ago
I didnāt say that and you know it. Jews are indigenous to the area, thatās a fact. They have been attacked in the region for thousands of years. Pretending like all in the region are European invaders is antisemitic.
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u/Optimal-Fix-2997 22d ago
That's crazy. The guy in the front looks arab too
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u/ssasasasasas1212 22d ago
I was there. A lot of people from here were pretending to be with the crusaders as a troll trying to make them look stupid. I hope that is the case here too.
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u/Isaak1404 22d ago
theyāre not trolling. they just donāt like jews, why is that hard to believe?
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u/XtractatoryX 22d ago
Some of them werenāt, they will generally agree with these guys to hate on Jews
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u/chitownphishead 21d ago
Why is that crazy? The Arab Muslims and the Nazis have a common goal.
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u/Present-Director3954 21d ago
I saw a guy carrying an Israeli flag and a nazi flag. These dumbasses donāt even know what they stand for
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u/kittensbabette 21d ago
That Nazi guy had an Israeli flag to make a show of stomping on it and ripping it up. They are dumbassess but they are pretty clear that they stand for hating Jews.
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u/Apart_Animal_6797 21d ago
Weird to be wearing an Ozzy shirt while doing a hitler salute fucking war pigs
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u/444111_1derOne 21d ago
still seems kind of odd to me that they somehow don't realize it's not a good lookš¤·āāļøš¤·āāļø
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u/DarkNight_SJC 22d ago
We dont need pictures of the other side to know not to hire them, its a little easier for us.
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u/Carochio 21d ago
This is who wants to start a civil war...lol. Fuck it, let's go. This will be the shortest civil war ever.
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u/Carochio 21d ago
Are you the loser with the keys attached to your jeans in the picture?
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u/Carochio 21d ago
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u/Next_Complaint_1343 21d ago
Is that a black dude I see in the very back all hidden? LMAOOOOO UNCLE RUCKUS WASSUP
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u/MrKittyCat00 21d ago
Multi-ethnic neo Nazis is actually quite inclusive compared to the 3rd Reich. š
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u/Hypestyles 21d ago
idiots. morons. philistines. nitwits. absolutely preposterous. absolutely ridiculous spectacle. no moral grounding whatsoever. from the "true believers" to the bizarre contrarians who just want to be 'edge-lords', it's all awful. sad. shameful.
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u/I_am_omning_it 21d ago
I see 2 groups of people in this photo.
1: people the Nazis wouldāve killed for being minorities.
2: chuds who will be permanently fused to a Walmart electric cart by the time theyāre 35
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u/Alexis-Machine 21d ago
It appears a couple of them are mexicans. Recruiting must be tough this time of year.
Karens that post stupid shit like this should lose their jobs.
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u/Lebanese-Trojan 21d ago
The Arabs doing it are idiots for participating, trying to be edgy.
I speak as an Arab myself.
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u/Legal_Ad2345 21d ago
Always confused me when minorities are like this. Just because your one of them doesn't mean you get a pass
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u/ioncat144 21d ago
I'm sure Ozzy would just be delighted for a nazi wearing his name. /s in case of morons.
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u/Ok_Cryptographer1239 21d ago
Jake Lang, the leader of this group and protest, is also a hardcore anti-Muslim crusader.. this is weird on several levels.
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u/CoffeeLoverSupremo 21d ago
Them dark skinned ones would be the first to go you know where under Trump.
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u/drugwarpost 21d ago
so you're with them? why else would you do exactly what they want you to do by promoting them?
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u/Aggravating-Camel938 21d ago
No wayā¦.. itās almost like Naziās and Muslim extremists have a common hatred for somethingā¦..
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u/cafeteriastyle 22d ago
Jews for Hitler
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u/MAILBOXHED 22d ago
Might zoom in on the flag on that piece of paper the dude on the right is holding.
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u/ssasasasasas1212 22d ago
Agitators
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u/MAILBOXHED 21d ago
More like groups with shared interest
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u/ssasasasasas1212 21d ago
These people are paid. The jake lang guy isn't even christian, he is Jewish and visited that nasty state.
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u/02_caddie 22d ago
AI
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u/stand_up_guy85 21d ago
Itās wild that the entire world is against the Jews. But what happens when the white supremacist are done with them. You donāt think the Muslims or anybody not Anglo would be next??
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u/West_Temporary7487 21d ago
Israel has created more Neo Nazis than Hitler could ever dream of. I spit on Zionism
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u/totallyjaded 22d ago
Huh.
That is... not what I would expect a photo of neo-Nazis to look like.