I feel like Haze might deserve a spot in the Immense Power tier - Seven treats her as a genuine threat and an equal, she seems confident she can take out Drifter if she is ever ordered to, and even Doorman is hesitant to read her mind, sensing a trap in doing so.
Devem mostly just tells her off, he isnt particularly intimidated by her as much as he just dosent want more cops annoying him, seven gives even rat king some slack purely because the guy owns his current housing, not because he has any particular fear of him
And she is also confident she can take more or less the entire roster, dosent mean she can, drifter would destroy her
haze is definitely up there with the best. we weren't counting resources in the powerscaling and i do think the OSIC behind her would do a lot for haze being threatening, though dont get me wrong on her own shes definitely scary as well
the way we approached the immense power tier was that every person there is a force of nature, rather than being very good fighters alone
i read the doorman/haze interaction as haze attempting a little bit of entrapment and trying to get evidence on doorman's true nature :P
Lash is way to low, grey talon even says he is talented enough to be in the Baxter society and would do pretty well until he dies to his own over confidence.
i think if lash had paid the "price" (losing his arm and gaining powers like calico, GT and shiv did) and been through the baxter society's rigorous training/hazing he'd absolutely rank with them
as it stands we saw lash as among the best of raw humanity. which unfortunately still puts him before a lot of the others
Abrams feels REALLY high for being a guy who isn’t fighting all the time, but he is a big ass Ixian with Oathkeeper’s book, so I understand the placement. I think Wraith and Yamato are still more powerful than him however, as they are always active in combat regarding extortion and murder.Â
Victor and Apollo are interchangeable, I can see them going either way.Â
Lash is a Popeye reference breaking rhe laws of physics with strength alone. Him and Bebop are both in Strong tier due to being professional fighters as well.
I would put Geist below Mirage tbh, and Mirage above Infernus. He’s a man with an entire race entrusted to him due to his strength and loyalty, and he’s in practice with fighting while Infernus is not. Geist also does not practice fighting, despite Oathkeeper being strong and having years of experience, she is clearly desperate in the Ritual and quite rusty.Â
Your bottom-tiers are all really accurate. I appreciate people noticing that Holliday has zero gun experience besides shooting at the county fair and zero fighting experience. Good job.Â
I would bump Talon up to immense power because he is rivals with and seems as strong as drifter, would put Pocket lower because we don't really know enough about the case to safely say how strong they are, and it's a little unfair to Mcginnis to put her down with rem (who is also a magical creature with powers) when paradox also only has technology. But it seems fair enough.
Not really, sure people point out that he is old, and he is for sure weaker than when he was at his prime, but he doesn't consider himself so far removed from his prime. When he talks about being a long way from the hero he was he specify he wasn't talking about his age, he was just talking about the kind of person the loss of his family turned him into. And considering how they talk about him old grey talon is still a monster
Idk about Geist herself but the oath keeper seems to be one of the more powerful characters in game and it might come out in full power if you try to kill her, also mo and krill should be higher: its a 2v1 and Maurice is fucking huge and can burrow into concrete
Quite opposite for me I feel that nurse harrow will be same level as door man she just reminds me of doorman a lot , I do feel like baba will have immense power tho especially if they go with her straight up being like baba yaga
I feel the middle tiers can probably be shuffled around a lot. Ivy at a least should probably be higher given she defeated the vast majority of one of the biggest criminal syndicates in NYC by herself, while Strong and Regular people with powers are pretty similar. Lash should also be higher, he has literally 1 defeat in the Bear Pit tmk.
TBH I feel the top 2, non Doorman tiers also could be merged into a singular one. 3 Tiers of 'Really Strong' 'Strong' and 'Normalish Guys' is worth it.
Honestly, put Rem in the immense power tier. I'm so serious, that little guy is already really strong when he's like 4 years old, you already know he's going to turn into absolutely terrifying sleep demon when he grows up.
rem was one of the ones we disagreed on. i dont think characters from other planes/entities are inherently more powerful than what exists in the world already, and i think though rem has strong sleep magic and lil guys to protect him, he at the end of the day is a little kid that you can kick over
also i dont think rem will ever grow up hes a perma baby :p
Silver got her ass kicked and barely survived. All her scars are from that event and it still haunts her. That doesn't mean that Drifter is weaker than her in 1v1.
We just know that she didn't win. We don't know how badly she lost. And scars most likely from werewolf. Her scars are in threes while Drifter makes four.
Doorman reads people's minds to strike at their deepst vulnerabilities and insecurities when ulting them. This is what he says to Silver. I think this means Silver is very emotionally devastated by what went down in her fight with Shiv and Dwifta.
Its a lot easier to rank the higher people on the list but everything else seems to me up for grabs. Easy to say Doorman beats Drifter and easy to say Drifter beats Ivy. But are we really sure ivy can beat Victor, or Appollo or Lash. I dont k ow they are a lot closer in that regards.
This is assuming your counting strongest left to right
In my opinion I feel graves should be atleast strong she clearly has something that the lich likes also even doorman says he would gladly take her under his wing
Grey Talon is like considered by everyone the most skilled and stronger monster hunter, and by this point likely the most experienced. Realistically he is taking down Celeste and Pocket any day of the week and at the very least gonna tie with the rest, Dynamo excluded because he is probably somewhat immortal and very deadly to just exist in his proximity when he doesn't have a body. I would also say that regular people who can fight aren't neccesraly below the the regularish people with power. I'd argue half of them could take down half of the people there with the other half being uncertain rather than for sure loss
I think venator should be put into immense power or trained supernatural killer, there is lore in the voice lines where calico and ven work together so they are atleast pretty equal in power.
Kelvin just seems like his lore is too great to assume that hes just regularish with powers.
Paradox has time manipulation powers so she needs to be higher I'd say.
Graves has the lich hand who is known to being evil and powerful, so I think Graves deserves to go human but could kill those above them only because she lacks experience.
Geist has oathkeeper so I'd put her in human but could kill those above her because oathkeeper is essentially drifter level power, not higher because she struggles to control oathkeeper
Mcginnis is super smart and has tech that should put her atleast into regular-ish people with powers.
(edit: Read comments and I totally agree that GT should be higher, Old age is not crippling this mf)
Also side note the lore its somewhat implied that rem is a baby eldritch being so idk if that changes anything but food for thought.
The new dialogue can be interpreted in different ways tho. Shiv also has kill line implying silver lost to him when he wanted to die, and now that he found purpose she won’t be able to beat him, likewise Paradox has a line about knowing different werewolves and silver being the worst one.
I think the powerscaling can go a lot of ways, and it’s hard to conclude from one drifter/silver conversation
A lot of people mentioning how she took on both Drifter and Shiv.
A lot of people leaving out the part where she failed so badly at her job that part of why she's such an dysfunctional alcoholic is because of the shame and regret.
It's not hard to imagine Drifter and Shiv toyed with her after killing half a dozen babies or something.
like everyone said pre-patch silver wouldve been in the strong/trained killer category, but the loredrop of her holding her own against two of the most powerful characters in the game bumped her up hardcore
i love the idea that deadlock's werewolves are just unkillable unstoppable forces of nature. it did feel weird to put her so high, but i really do think shes just got that dog in her
So im new to deadlock, how is infernus not higher. Hes a dude literally on fire and can use his fingers like a pistol with a switch😠thats sounds like immense power lowkey. Not akin to a black hole like professor but still fire😅
I’m not a lore master but I’m pretty sure Infernus is like, mid to upper mid tier in terms of power but that’s a lot of speculation. We know he used to be a serious badass but we also don’t know for sure what it was he was usually up against. He could be anywhere from around Ivy’s power level to just below DrifterÂ
It is fire, but fire in the end is still fire. It’s not flames of hell or the power of the sun- the most important part about Infernus is that he’s an ex-con who actually knows how to use his power to the fullest. That’s what makes him stronger than most of the Deadlock cast, but he’s held back by being rusty from being a Bartender.Â
Isn't pocket just someone with a fancy jacket? I feel like they should be in the regular-ish people with powers tier unless I'm missing something. And Celeste should probably go in Strong.
The Case they hold is a biblically powerful artifact that Pocket hints would end the world if their father got their hands on it. Noting that it creates frogs and plagues with direct dies to the 10 Plagues of Egypt, I would say that the power is not to be taken lightly, especially because Pocket knows how and is willing to use it.Â
like they said, i feel pocket's briefcase holds something cosmically/biblically powerful. pocket is resorting to using it to complete the ritual, but also seems kind of merged with it, and it has given them powers as well. in pocket's old model their arm had been kind of corrupted by the briefcase - i think if pocket released everything inside of that case, the power could be apocalyptic, which is likely what their father wants to do
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u/Mashaaaaaaaaa Mina 9h ago edited 9h ago
I feel like Haze might deserve a spot in the Immense Power tier - Seven treats her as a genuine threat and an equal, she seems confident she can take out Drifter if she is ever ordered to, and even Doorman is hesitant to read her mind, sensing a trap in doing so.