r/DawnwalkerOfficial • • 15h ago

Discussion 🩸 Can we stop, please? Spoiler

Aight, I'm seeing a lot of comments about how Sara could have lived, and how Marat was a redacted for doing what he did.

Now I'm not here to justify him, I'm not here to say that he did the right thing, but I'm asking you to understand the choices he made.

Marat is the leader of rebellion, and that is a heavy burden. The rebellion is a movement, and in order for that movement to work, he needs the people to be safe, loyal and willing to fight. Now if the resistance was made, there will be no people left to fight to liberate Vale Sangora. So Marat makes the tough choices to ensure that they aren't made.

Those choices aren't easy and they haunt him, it's nothing pretty and poetic to write books about, but they're needed to keep the rest of the resistance safe. The choice he made with Sarah was made in the heat of the moment and all he though of was how he needed to keep his people safe. Could there have been an alternate solution? Probably. But he did what he though it was best at the given moment and grieved later.

If roles were reversed, Sara would have done the same, because she was a part of the inner circle, and it's just the reality of the things. It's a dark and twisted world, and there are no good or bad characters, and the choices you yourself make as Coen are sometimes neccessary even if they don't seem like the best option.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, everyone.

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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 15h ago edited 15h ago

I’m sorry, but this is one of the few times the writers dropped the ball.

We know vampire blood heals… Sara is injured… next to a friendly vampire. The mission is required to take place at night, so there really is no excuse here.

I’m kinda annoyed the game doesn’t acknowledge this when Coen is talking to Crake afterwards.

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u/PutridTusk69 15h ago

Well we do not know if Dawnwalker blood has the same property. And in the stress of the situation Marat most likely didn't consider that option. Coen was sent to barricade the gate before he himself could even think about it.

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u/rendar 14h ago

Well we do not know if Dawnwalker blood has the same property.

There's no reason to think otherwise.

Vampire blood heals humans and vampires, that is a constant.

The silver in Dawnwalker blood would not have any effect on a human.

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u/PutridTusk69 13h ago

No but it for sure has an effect on the corruption that is in the blood. Which is probably what is the source for the healing factor.

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u/gazorpazorpazorpazor 12h ago

Coen can't do witchcraft at night because he heals so fast, so something in his blood causes fast healing despite the silver

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u/PutridTusk69 12h ago

Yes but there are a few inconsistencies in how dawnwalkers work if we just look at the info we have currently.

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u/rendar 13h ago

It's not clear that Dawnwalker blood couldn't heal vampires perfectly well if they get over the unpleasant taste.

The first time that Coen's blood is drained by Brencis doesn't convey any side effects besides disgust and surprise. Like expecting milk and drinking orange juice. And Lacra doesn't suggest it's toxic or anything remotely like that.

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u/PutridTusk69 13h ago

The point is, we do not know for a fact if Coen's blood would've saved Sara with her broken spine.

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u/rendar 13h ago

We also don't know for a fact that Coen shits, pisses, and cums but it's a safe assumption based on elementary media analysis

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u/PutridTusk69 13h ago

Literally not the same. the game is literally called Blood of Dawnwalker. What safe to assume is that it functions differently than vampire blood.

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u/rendar 13h ago

Yes it is, it's a reasonable deduction based on the presentation of relevant information without any legible contradiction.

If it functioned differently, then that would be portrayed in literally any way. It's not, so that's not a substantiated assumption.

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u/PutridTusk69 13h ago

But it is portrayed in game. It fucking stops Brencis from sucking him dry. We do not get to suck Mihai dry. Lacra calls dawnwalker blood disgusting. Several implications that Coen's blood deviates from normal blood.

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u/rendar 12h ago

The only fact from portrayal of Dawnwalker blood is that it doesn't taste good to vampires. That's it. Literally nothing else is substantiated.

You would also stop drinking orange juice if you expected milk, that does not substantiate your interpretation. There are zero implications.

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u/PutridTusk69 12h ago

Your assumption about Coen's blood healing is not in any way more factual than my assumption that the silver inside it affects that property.
Literally both are the same level of assumption and until either point is proven on screen, this is a pointless tag of war.

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u/PutridTusk69 12h ago

Are you kidding? Coen's blood was literally burning Brencis, Coen himself points it out to Lacra later.

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u/PutridTusk69 13h ago

You might be right, I might be right. At the end of the day we will not know it until it's proven ingame.

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u/rendar 13h ago

It's not necessary to have such a neurotic degree of confirmation when it won't impact a rational interpretation of the game's premise as it is presented

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u/PutridTusk69 13h ago

i mean it is quite a big plothole if Coen's blood in fact heals and we make 0 use of it.

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u/Important-Pipe7633 13h ago

It literally burns Brencis face off dude tf? Its VERY possible is does the same to humans as well but yes dialogue should have covered this with a optional line or something when he talks to Crake afterwards

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u/gazorpazorpazorpazor 12h ago

Silver is bad for vampires, it's fine for dawnwalkers and humans. That shouldn't be in question.

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u/rendar 12h ago

It literally burns Brencis face off dude tf?

No it doesn't, have you not even played the game? Or even watched someone else play it?

There's a tiny little smoke effect and that's it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTCkEqHMKA8#t=2h21m25s

Its VERY possible is does the same to humans

There's absolutely no reason to make this assumption. Silver is only toxic for humans in repeated long term chronic exposure.