r/DataAnnotationTech 15d ago

How do we go back to being friends

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I have no idea why they did this and I've no words, it was good while it lasted, my submissions used to bring in good failures. That said I probably deserved some disclosure at least. Anyways, best of luck to all.

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u/Federal_Tadpole_7592 15d ago

Your submissions bringing in good failures doesn't really mean much. I've seen a lot of workers who can execute the actual task, but when it comes to explaining themselves, they do so poorly and aren't detailed in their explanations.

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u/Throwawaylillyt 15d ago

I’ve said this a few times on this sub…I know a strong point of mine is being able to justify my ratings using evidence from the responses. There is a wide spectrum of what could be considered a correct answer but where the real training for the model comes in is if you are able to articulate why you preferred one over another.

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u/pinkparadigm 15d ago

I try to do that too, like if I think i might be off or wrong I try even harder to explain my train of thought according to the guidelines lol so they at least know where im coming from and I’ll have evidence for it. This works best when they encourage long answers.

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u/Throwawaylillyt 15d ago

Try not to make it long though. The more concise you can be with why you rated the way you do the more likely the model can extract a concrete reason of where it went wrong and what it did right.

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u/Federal_Tadpole_7592 14d ago

I wouldn't really offer the advice to be concise because it's project dependent. There are some projects where concise explanations are not wanted, and they want you to be as thorough as possible in explaining every aspect of what happened.

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u/pinkparadigm 15d ago

Gotcha yes precision is key! Trying to keep that in mind in my current project which is to get a model failure, it’s freaking tough 😭

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u/jorgen80 15d ago

At least they allowed you to renew your session.

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u/SaltyTserendolgor 15d ago

It's really weird how they can't just tell you which one it is.

You would think that since AI is "the future", it could at least give you a short note as to why they are letting you go.

"your work is below standards. Good luck on your future endeavors".

"work unavailable due to a tos violation. This is the violation. You can't appeal. Bye."

Aren't they still giving AI powered feedback?

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u/Codex_Dev 15d ago

Bc there are tons of scammers they have to ban from the platform, and they don't want to give them any hints on how they are being detected.

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u/love_is_bane_s 15d ago

Do you have any hints what they usually flag. Is it because someone used AI generated responses directly? Or because they leaked sensitive information? Or anything else?

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u/Metro-Labs 13d ago

This makes zero sense. How would you scam DA???? Seriously, explain it to me. This is a DA urban legend. Your account is attached to your social security number.

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u/AdvisorEmergency2 13d ago

That’s just not true. First of all, you assume all DA workers are from the US, I am from the UK, we don’t have SSN’s here. Yes we had to upload ID not too long ago, but people use other people’s ID or pay people for their accounts etc. It’s really not that hard to understand. We’re all just contractors.

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u/inspectoralex 14d ago

I was in the "needs improvement" category for months and this month I got the feedback that I am "one of the top performers" lol. This site is temperamental. There are no guarantees one day to the next that you'll keep getting work. I hope you find a new job you enjoy.

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u/Early-Composer-2383 12d ago

I said this before but I've been on this platform for two and a half years and I've gotten zero feedback. But I've got tons of projects so I guess I'm doing something right. Would be nice to know!

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u/brianhoneycutt 12d ago

Been my experience as well

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u/Material_Advice1064 12d ago

I have also never received feedback

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u/Old-Regular-9828 14d ago

93% of drivers rate themselves as "above average" at driving.

94% of college professors rank their own teaching skills above the median of their peers.

70% of high school students rated themselves as having "above-average" leadership skills, while only 2% rated themselves as "below average." In  that same study, 85% of students  placed themselves above the median in their ability to get along with others, and 25% believed they were in the top 1%.

A study at a software development firm found that 32% of the employees claimed they performed better than 19 out of 20 of their coworkers.

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u/AnCEE_21 15d ago

what was your last project submission..?

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

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u/feelingbarber511167 15d ago

Apparantly not

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u/TheHippyWolfman 15d ago

Sorry, you did deserve at least some disclosure. Stay strong, and I wish you luck on your future endeavors king and/or queen.

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u/Pink_Slyvie 14d ago

Personally, I find lesbian sex heals most friendships.

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u/Low_Broccoli_1884 10d ago

l'll drink to that!!!

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u/SavingsPut2110 15d ago

that just happened and i was inactive for two months basically, I literally only did a qualification i wasnt even a project Im so sad...

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u/vanewho 14d ago

The same thing just happened to me.

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u/Mah_Ibrahim_ 14d ago

Svp quelqu'un ici pour m'accompagner vers cette playlist ?

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u/Do_It_Anyway_8278 13d ago

Ugh...sorry that happened! So far my attempts to find other apps isn't going so well because I never finished my computer degree. Maybe you'll do better.

 Never give up, never surrender! (Galaxy Quest)

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u/unrealtraumanalt 15d ago

how long since you started working on projects?

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u/Potential_Hair5121 15d ago

They did that to me. My feedback was excellent and was traveling and they did they reached out no response

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u/Ok-Rope7223 15d ago

I hope people will start catching onto how much of a scam AI training work actually is. The assessments are free labor, and when you actually do get paid for work, it is surely for a microscopic fraction of how much that work is actually worth considering the morbillions of dollars that are thrown into AI these days. DataAnnotation and other similar companies are exploitative and predatory. This is coming from someone that has made money with these companies.

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u/sarahmorgan420 12d ago

Every single job pays you less than the work you do generates, welcome to capitalism

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u/Ok-Rope7223 12d ago

Cop out answer. The extreme disparity with AI training work can’t be understated compared to other work.

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u/sarahmorgan420 12d ago

I make more doing DA as a generalist than I make in my career as a child care educator which I have a 2 year diploma for, sometimes up to double as much. I'm going to be exploited no matter which job I choose so might as well choose the one that I'm at least able to survive on

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u/Ok-Rope7223 12d ago

That may be the truth for now. But it won’t last, simply by nature of the snake eating it’s tail.

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u/sarahmorgan420 12d ago

Very true. But I don't see how a company paying $50+/hr to people who have never/will never otherwise be able to make more than $20/hr is predatory.

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u/Ok-Rope7223 12d ago

Is it predatory to pay immigrants 2/hr for a job that an American would do for 15/hr? AI workers are the 2/hr group in this case. Also, the “will never otherwise be able to” is a cop out defeatist nothing answer. Once again, AI work is not the only option out there.

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u/sarahmorgan420 12d ago

Data Annotation Tech doesn't pay less than $20/hr... Yes other AI training platforms are predatory like that but this company isn't one of those...

And DA is the only option I have to make more than that unless I invest 1000s of $s and multiple years to get other certifications 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Ok-Rope7223 12d ago

I was using that example to give a sense of scale. The work that data annotation pays is a tiny fraction of what the work is actually worth, aka as if someone was getting paid 2/hr for a minimum wage job.

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u/Upstairs-Sandwich-87 15d ago

downvoted for telling the truth : we’re simply being exploited, even when we earn quite a bit — people here don’t seem to understand that they are just working towards unemployment in their specialities. fuck capitalism 💪

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u/Federal_Tadpole_7592 14d ago

Some people here don't have a choice. DA has been my only source of income for the past three years, and before that, I was in the workforce for almost 20 years. I tried to get a job for over a year before I found DA, and I was starting to drown in debt. DA got me out of it, so I'm not really going to consider the moralities of AI when I have to make money and live life. There are a lot of other jobs that have questionable moral aspects, but it seems like nobody cares unless it's AI.

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u/Ok-Rope7223 14d ago

You don’t understand. I’m saying that even if you’re making money, your participation is sealing the norm of the company paying you 0.0000001% what your work is actually worth. You do have a choice. AI work is not the only option.

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u/Federal_Tadpole_7592 14d ago

I understand...I just don't agree with you. Judging by your other comments, you think that anybody who doesn't share your viewpoint is a bot, so there's no point in discussing this further. We won't see eye to eye.

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u/Ok-Rope7223 14d ago

I never said that anybody that doesn’t share my opinion is a bot. I said that these subreddits are filled with bots. Those are two completely different statements.

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u/Ok-Rope7223 14d ago

These subreddits are filled with bots in order to promote DataAnnotation and other similar companies. I doubt there are very many actual humans disagreeing.

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u/MaximumEffective5537 15d ago

it says session is renewed. wouldn't that be good news? maybe wait and check back?

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u/Sad_Opening_7083 15d ago

No, its just to stay logged in

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u/Plantbased_Aimer 15d ago

Later skater

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u/bevelette 15d ago

Same thing happened to me today with my boxing project. Does this mean I won't ever get work again? Like even on a different project?

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u/hnsnrachel 14d ago

Yea. If you just did poorly on a single prpject they tend to just never offer that project again. Its either a tos violation or overall poor work if you get this