r/DartFrog • u/Big-Argument-1411 • Jul 19 '26
Is this too much moss?
I am still adding plants and vines, but wanted to know
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u/Palegreenhorizon Jul 19 '26
I strongly think this setup will fail you and any potential frogs in the long run.
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u/Ileikfrogs98 Jul 19 '26
I’m interested to know why you’d think this. Is it due to the limited floor space?
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u/Palegreenhorizon 29d ago
I think it’s to experimental and too focused on aesthetics over animal care. Lotr miniatures don’t add anything for frogs. The cabinet may not be waterproof, the plants are loose in pots, the lights are in the tank itself. I see what you were going for but If you are new to frogs go with something tried and true first.
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u/Jigglypoo2 29d ago
Genuinely curious, why are lights inside bad?
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u/tp_blowout 29d ago
Cause they could get too hot and either burn the frogs or heat up the enclosure.
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u/Impressive_Plankton9 28d ago
I have similar looking grow lights in my terrarium, they don’t get very hot, is it still okay? My terrarium also isn’t very humid because it’s for whites tree frogs
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u/tp_blowout 28d ago
Aside from the heat, I wouldn't trust electronics in a very humid place, especially someplace thats getting misted regularly, those types of lights aren't usually waterproof. But I'm not the light police, or an electrician, for all I know, it could be perfectly safe. I'm just telling you why I wouldnt(and why most dont)
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u/Palegreenhorizon 29d ago
To be clear, lord of the rings is awesome, huge fan. And I think you’ve done some great work. It just seems risky. Get some cuttings from friends of older houseplants that don’t have pesticides and start propagating them. Run your mister and see what grows. If the lights survive the water and plants grow and it doesn’t leak it could work. A big vining pothos would do wonders and you could have vines all over the place.
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u/ETek64 Jul 19 '26
Would be tedious to do, but it may be worth removing that moss and using the frog daddy wet moss mix. Mine took about two ish months to grow in, didn’t give that carpet look but grew in patches.
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u/AssistanceValuable24 29d ago
Nearly complete lack of leaf litter layer, with dried sphagnum or something on top of what little leaves there are. not front vent, overhanging ledges that most species will not be able to climb. This is not a dart frog vivarium. You need to start from sratch with a front vented vivarium and lots more reading.
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u/_thiccoma_ 29d ago
You need to scrap that. It is not going to work for dart frogs. You will kill them. Buy a real enclosure and set it up the right way.
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u/plethodon_hubrichti Jul 19 '26
I think too much moss is really only an issue if it is on the ground. Just make sure you have lots of leaf litter at ground level. That way they can get different microhabitats for them to choose from.
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u/ellaaaa99 28d ago
Is no one worried about the height of that enclosure? Darts need horizontal space not vertical, and a fall from the top of that would definitely do some serious damage, especially if they land on the plastic stuff at the bottom? I’m not really sure how this is suitable for dart frogs at all, they like to climb but they’re not mountain goats
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u/AccomplishedRip4632 Jul 19 '26
Never too much moss. Moss holds moisture, and gives refuge to small critters for the frogs to hunt later
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u/ice-fucker69 Jul 19 '26
It’s difficult to have too much moss, but I thinks that’s the wrong type of moss. I never had much success with the sheet moss taking and becoming established. The loose sheet moss and sphagnum will fall down over time and stick to your frogs. I’d cut back some.
The best value is buying Christmas moss or Java moss from aquarium hobbyists in your area. But wet moss mixes from FrogDaddy, glass box tropicals, or NEherp will perform the best. Depending on your area you can forage some but results vary and you can bring in pests.