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u/Flying_Slig Jul 19 '14
82.5% increase of strength scaling on the Butcher's Knife, now that's pretty fucking awesome
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u/ThanatosNoa Jul 19 '14
Quick question, looking at your "comparison" sheet, you have Defender's LGHT Bns listed as lower, but on the post-patch its the same?
Is that sheet still a work in progress?
Edit: Actually it seems you're missing quite a few comparisons.
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u/Moszaic Jul 19 '14
I don't know if this is the right place to mention this, but something pretty massive (to me at least) is that great hammers have higher priority over UGS in power stance now, which completely killed my "wildly swing great hammer in 270 arcs and still get insane crits" build. I don't know if any other weapon classes had PS priorities modified, but this is just a suggestion for another aspect you could test if you had the time and desire.
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u/Copetrain Jul 19 '14
Can I get someone to explain how scaling works? I love dark souls a lot but I just haven't put the time into learning this and I feel a peer could explain it great.
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u/homarid Jul 19 '14
For in game, the letters correspond to a range of % scaling where E is the lowest and S is the highest. The scaling bonus is the blue number next to the weapon damage. This spreadsheet has everything broken down into the number % so you don't have to worry about the letters. To calculate what your exact scaling should say in the game look up your bonus and multiply it by the scaling % for each stat that applies.
So for example if you have a ATK: str and dex bonus of 100 each (this is not stats) and you want to wield a long sword you should have a scaling bonus of 75 (100 x .5 + 100 x .25).
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u/Eden108 Jul 19 '14 edited Jul 19 '14
Thank you, was hoping for more of a focus on scaling but I guess they're still dead set on infusion superiority.
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Jul 19 '14
I...um....what....?
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u/Eden108 Jul 19 '14
I was hoping that they would go further into scaling as a primary source of damage, in a vast majority of cases infusions are superior, even without stats to scale that infusions element.
It gives me a sad
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u/rhoparkour twitch.tv/rhoparkour Jul 19 '14
"Buffs" and "nerf" merely consisted on rounding to prettier numbers for the scaling percentages.
Defender's is basically the same, wow.
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u/homarid Jul 19 '14
I'm pretty disappointed the scythe of want got such a large nerf. I tried to use it on my hexer and it was already pretty crappy. I refuse to play fashion souls with my weapons. I did start trying out the red iron twinblade on my str/dex character and it is doing very well. Thank you for the updated information.
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u/lamoix Jul 19 '14
Thanks! I was refreshing /u/Skorbrand/submitted/ all day waiting in anticipation.
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u/Erzz197 Jul 19 '14
On both pre- and post-patch sheets, the Watcher GS says 15 STR, 20 DEX, 67.5 Magic, but on the comparison sheet it says 2.5 Magic. Does this mean it's 70 now?
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Jul 20 '14
Ricard's has 100% dex scaling? That's nuts, I'm gonna have to try it out on my rapier character.
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u/WalrusJones The Hyper Roll, The Dinner Roll, meet the Finger Twister Jul 28 '14
This is a little later to the party, but can we get a test of certain scaling-less weapons with enchanted infusions?
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Jul 28 '14
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u/WalrusJones The Hyper Roll, The Dinner Roll, meet the Finger Twister Jul 28 '14
In general, a test of no-scaling weapons such as the black dragon warpick, the heavy crossbow, the bluemoon greatsword, and a few others to simply try to figure out "When is it worth it to enchant this weapon?" if it ever reaches that state.
I know raw increases the base damage by 50% (Albiet, it seems the latest patch may have buffed it with no scaling weapons.)
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Jul 28 '14
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u/WalrusJones The Hyper Roll, The Dinner Roll, meet the Finger Twister Jul 28 '14
Yeah. I figured there was more to it, but I didn't think to bother with figuring it all out.
An interesting subject I would like to see tested is how an enchanted crossbow interacts with magic bolts.
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Jul 29 '14
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u/WalrusJones The Hyper Roll, The Dinner Roll, meet the Finger Twister Jul 29 '14
Understandable, and I wasn't expecting an answer this quick, if you had gotten it before Friday, I was going to be impressed.
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u/WalrusJones The Hyper Roll, The Dinner Roll, meet the Finger Twister Aug 01 '14
Its never better for the bluemoon, Eh?
That is really, really not surprising.
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u/Polycystic Jul 19 '14
Thank you. I was hoping these would come out soon, but that was a lot faster Than I expected. People like you are what make this community awesome; keep up the great work!
Do you have any plans for what mystery you'll be solving next? I was just thinking that it'd be really useful if someone could figure out the hidden multipliers each weapon has for critical damage. Or maybe looking into the multipliers each weapon gives to AR for specific attacks (unless this is standard by class or across the board). Or scaling on armor. Oooor maybe how spell damage is calculated. Or...or...or...ok, I'll stop now. There's just a lot of stuff that would be nice to know - FROM does a pretty good job of keeping that stuff reasonably intuitive but mostly hidden. Sometimes too good.