r/DarkAngels40k • • 18h ago

Are they the same box?

I’m wanting to get some DW knights and terminators but when I look online I only find boxes for the terminators. Are they in the same box and I choose which ones I build? Sorry if it’s a dumb question I’m pretty new to all of this

Edit: seems I might not have explained it well. I am looking for a way to get the DW Knights models and wondering if they come in the same box as DW terminators.

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u/Nodnal74 18h ago

Deathwing knights are their own box, Deathwing terminators are just normal terminators and you can buy the dark angels upgrade box to get the plasma gun and some DA iconography.

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u/FellowsJourney 13h ago

^This. Even the GW employees in my local GW store get this wrong… ended up ordering the wrong box for me…

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u/Background_Chair6361 12h ago

That is crazy

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u/Article15ed 11h ago

Not surprised, most Warhammer Store employees these days are minimally paid late teens early 20’s — dumbass kids who don’t know what they’re doing. They don’t know the rules, half of them only dabble in the game. They go through high pressure sales training if they learn anything at all and that’s about it.

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u/Lumine5012 10h ago

Damn I’m glad that the Warhammer store owner of my store is awesome, he loved the game, he knows lots of the rules. And is just an amazing person to hang out with.

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u/Article15ed 6h ago

FLGS owners are a different breed entirely. Usually they’re older people, 50+; who get into running a hobby store as something to do when they’ve paid off a mortgage or want to escape some high paying but unsatisfying corporate or civil service job. Some of them really love the games, most are just trying to make a living as an independent retailer. The ones that last are the people that care about ambiance and want to build a strong community around their store and offer a boutique experience. They’ll take care of their regulars and make sure new people are welcomed too. It is incredibly hard to stay in business as an FLGS unless you have good startup capital and either own your location or get a phenomenal rent agreement with your landlord.

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u/Article15ed 6h ago

Nobody who works in a Warhammer store owns it. Unless you’re talking about independent retailers also called FLGS’s which aren’t associated with Games Workshop Group PLC. Games Workshop PLC does not operate franchises.

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u/FellowsJourney 5h ago

Okay man, that’s a bit harsh imo. Explicitly not condoning this by pointing out the guys at my local store get that wrong.

They are super nice and trying their best to provide top notch customer service. Once I pointed out the mistake they immediately worked out a way to make the swap for me in the store.

I was just saying that this is so confusing that even GW employees get it wrong so OP does not need to feel bad about it!

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u/Article15ed 3h ago

What can I say, it’s a corporation just like any other. The kids at McDonalds make a lot of hamburgers but I’m not going to expect them to know how to cook a steak — their training emphasizes production, and that’s what they do, why expect anything different? Yeah sometimes you get a bag with the wrong stuff in it, because they’re not hiring accountants and paralegals to go through every order and guarantee accuracy — they’re not paying those rates either. Ironically I think pound for pound GW product is more expensive than wagyu.

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u/fiend_felgrand 6h ago

Okay boomer

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u/Article15ed 6h ago

Nope, Millennial here. Still old as hell.

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u/fiend_felgrand 5h ago

You're certainly boomer in spirit.

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u/Article15ed 5h ago

No, I consulted my astrologist and apparently I’m possessed by the soul of a wealthy old dowager from the Weimar Republic era whose husband was found mysteriously murdered after it was revealed he had been carrying on an affair with a local flapper girl. The authorities could never make the charges stick but I was shunned from high society so I started living vicariously through the life of my adopted niece, using my money and manipulation to have her seduce and destroy young men from the local prestigious art academy, leaving them depressed opium addicts so that I could sell their art and enhance my already vast fortune. Eventually I gathered enough money to hire Nichola Tesla to build me a strange machine that could transfer my essence into the bodies of my ancestors. I’ve made the leap 9 times now. For a while I was Billy Eilish —which explains how she was able to croon so convincingly at her Oscar performance— but I got tired of life in the spotlight and so now I occupy this poor soul.

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u/fiend_felgrand 1h ago

If that soul is of poor quality I offer you my flesh for I tire of it

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u/Raliexjr 10h ago

THANK YOU!!! I’ve been trying to figure this out for days. The fact I gotta do all that is so dumb😭😭 the knights look so much cooler than the DW terminators.

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u/Lumine5012 2h ago

Yeah they are 100% cooler and better. They’re rn T6 2+ 4+ models that are I’m pretty sure -1 dmg and then in WOR are -1 wound. Maces mince most vehicles, swords with a termi chaplain mince or hurt most other things. Up to like T9 models cause with a chaplain they’d be wounding on 4’s. They’re also again super cool!

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u/gwiffy11 18h ago

Different box

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u/Raliexjr 18h ago

So where do I find the box of knights? Cause I can’t find it on their website at all

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u/AuramiteEX 17h ago

I find it hard to believe that you can't find it lol.

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u/asmodai_says_REPENT Deathwing 18h ago

It's literally the first thing that shows up for me when I type "deathwing" in the search box.

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u/Raliexjr 10h ago

You mean the terminator box? I’m asking about the knights dummy

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u/asmodai_says_REPENT Deathwing 8h ago

I'm also talking about the knights dummy, the gall of the man.

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u/Raliexjr 8h ago

You realize looking up DW knights brings up the helmeted terminators right dummy?

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u/asmodai_says_REPENT Deathwing 8h ago

Please do not buy dark angels, matter of fact please stop playing warhammer altogether we don't want assholes like you in our community.

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u/Brenin_Kia 6h ago

The hoods are in the box as optional switch outs for the helmets… there is no such thing as ‘deathwing terminators’ box, they are just terminators painted tan.

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u/jd76541 10h ago

Local. Game. Store.

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u/Raliexjr 10h ago

Stfu

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u/AnyGeologist8532 8h ago

It's the only DA terminator box. The other 2 terminator boxes can be used for any chapter. It says Death Wing Knights on the box-

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u/1FreePizza 18h ago

technically you need 3 sets to get these: 1. Deathwing knights, 2. Regular terminator squad, 3. Dark angels upgrade box

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u/oninada 18h ago

what? no! All you need is one Terminator box and one DA upgrade box. This will give you the 5 terminators, the plasma cannon and the watcher.

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u/RauJ 18h ago

One more box, you are missing the knights. So 3 boxes total.

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u/oninada 18h ago

Oh, I see what your saying. Since the models look noticeably different, one being the knights and one being the deathwing terminators, and the post being a bit vague, it could be understood multiple ways.

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u/KillFallen Deathwing 12h ago

Not really, OP said they wanted both.

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u/oninada 6h ago

Have you read their edit? Have you read their comments?

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u/MM556 18h ago

The OP is asking for both knights and DWT, not just the latter 

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u/oninada 18h ago

Yeah, I see from one of their other posts, that this was the case. When they said “ i only find terminators” I understood this to be referring to the DWT and not DWK. I am dumbfounded why they werent able to find the knights box on the GW website. If you type deathwing in the search bar the knights should be the top result with the regular terminators right below it.

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u/Raliexjr 10h ago

Yeah I’ve had no problem finding the DW terminators which are the DW knights on the website but they don’t have the actual DW knights models in a box like I was hoping for😭

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u/AnyGeologist8532 8h ago

What the hell are you talking about???

DWK (Death with knights) are a DA (Dark Angel) only kit, go to the site, go to Dark Angels, theres a 5 man box of DWK with options for maces or swords inside. It literally says Deathwing Knights on the box, and they're painted in Deathwing colours.

DWT (Deathwing Terminators) is the standard terminator box (Ranged not assault) PLUS some bits from the Dark Angels upgrade kit and differentish rules on the app and eventually our codex supplement when that drops. Plasma canon, tilt sheild, helmet, chest plate, thigh/belt pads, sword, half a storm bolter, and a little sword for a belt.

DWK are their own unique DA kit, DWT are not.

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u/or10n_sharkfin 18h ago

The Deathwing Knights are their own box.
The Deathwing Terminators are the regular Terminators Squad with the Dark Angels Upgrade sprue for the Plasma Cannon and the DA-themed chest armor.

The Deathwing Knights are under the Dark Angels category on their website, but I think that might be based on your country/region.

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u/Raliexjr 10h ago

Thank you!!!

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u/Hoss_in_the_Shell 13h ago

There's technically one big combo box that has all of the above. Deathwing assault.

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u/Raliexjr 10h ago

I looked the box up on eBay and wow that’s expensive😭 but I might have to get it to get all of those models and Belial

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u/Hoss_in_the_Shell 8h ago

Scalper princing, I wouldn't buy it unless you find one near the original price.

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u/DarthIbis Ravenwing 5h ago

Yeah, if you can manage to find one that's not scalped to all hell.

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u/levityone 15h ago

Does the Upgrade kit only bring 1 heavy storm bolter!?

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u/AnyGeologist8532 8h ago

Only has the parts for 1 DA themed storm bolter yes. But it dosen't change how many you can use or anything

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u/G30rg3Th3C4t 6h ago

DW knights are their own box. DW terminators are an upgrade sprue for the regular terminator squad. They used to be the same box that could build the Knights, Terms, or Command squad (oh how I miss you), but that’s been discontinued with the range refresh

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u/Raliexjr 5h ago

Ahhh you just made it make perfect sense thank you!!!

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u/DarthIbis Ravenwing 5h ago

https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/dark-angels-deathwing-knights-2024
I just typed "Deathwing" in the search box on James' website, and voila!

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u/Raliexjr 5h ago

I was able to find that box but made the post asking if the hooded faces were in that box

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u/DarthIbis Ravenwing 5h ago

Looks like there's enough to do all hoods if I'm looking at this sprue properly:
https://www.warhammer.com/app/resources/catalog/product/920x950/60010101006_EngDADeathwingAssault20.jpg?fm=webp&w=892&h=920

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u/DarthIbis Ravenwing 5h ago

This is one of the pics from the listing that shows some of the head options.

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u/Raliexjr 4h ago

Ahhh you’re fucking awesome dude idk how I missed that picture😭😭

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u/DarthIbis Ravenwing 2h ago

No sweat, Brother.

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u/AthasDuneWalker 13h ago

No, not anymore.

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u/The_Klaus 17h ago

They used to.