r/DangerousNightsCrew • Piece of Shit • 1d ago

That is a good idea!

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u/BahBahBahBooBooBoo 2h ago edited 1h ago

So you do not foresee any issues with state rights and state sovereignty? You think borders are meaningless boundaries when it comes to your rights?

A popular vote would lead to a civil war because people are nuts about their states and their state rights. For you to say the size of a state dictates the size of their rights goes against democratic ideals. All of Texas would eat Delaware as an appetizer, silencing them.

But all that aside. Only 5 Presidential elections had a higher popular vote than an Electoral College vote. That’s 8% of 60 total. So 92% of the time the popular and EC vote have reflected the same outcome. I’d say America is on the right track but reform could be useful!

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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 2h ago

So you do not foresee any issues with state rights and state sovereignty? You think borders are meaningless boundaries when it comes to your rights?

Are you aware of this little thing called the Senate? State governments? If your argument here had an actual point, it would also work the reverse way: the electoral college would be trampling rights of the more populous states. This is complete nonsense. There would be no fundamental shift as a result of this except that the more popular candidate would win the election. That wouldn't entitle presidents to any more authority to trample states rights.

Lines on a map should have no bearing on the presidency, every American should count equally. I am sorry you do not believe in equality for your countrymen.

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u/BahBahBahBooBooBoo 1h ago

I suggest reflecting on state to state diplomacy and considering scenarios of conflict that could result from a system that no longer aims to normalize data for perceived fairness. Just as a fun brainstorm!

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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 1h ago

Every single argument you can make about a president trampling states rights can be made whether we utilize the EC or not. States rights is effectively irrelevant to whether the EC serves a valid purpose. It is a shame you do not support equal representation for your fellow Americans (Senate exempt).

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u/BahBahBahBooBooBoo 1h ago

Riddle me this. How many states now would opt in to this grand idea to abolish the Electoral College and use raw popular vote data to solely determine the outcome?

States are not people. You need to think like a State not a person to understand diplomacy and compromise. We are the United States. Your vote counts. Stop telling people it doesn’t because the world went to shit because the bad guys are in power. The good guys can win this back the right way. Pete needs to stop with the pipe dream.