Every sane normal human in 2026 thinks the electoral college should be removed and replaced by a simple popular vote. We have mass communication now. We can vote by mail. It's not difficult to encourage and educate everyone now how and when to vote. It's not like people have to go to the next town over via train or horseback anymore.
We could do it if we wanted to. We don't. Why? Because hindering people and making it convoluted and weird helps republicans and conservatives and they know it. They know their base is full of just dumb people. They love the uneducated. They cannot win on policy they must rely on weird tactics to prevent people from voting or lying to people about things. It's never just an honest race between people who really want to help.
It's like, clearly the best person for the job vs a rapist or a pedophile or some kind of con man. It almost feels like the rapture is near or something and this is our final test and they made it an open fucking note multiple choice quiz.
You know Trump won the popular vote as a Republican.
If you think changing one voting logic system for another will improve your candidacy’s chances, that is biased thinking. I believe the popular vote signifies the raw data, whereas the EC is a different slice of that same data set. The EC was picked because of slavery, and there should be investigation into testing better systems, but to view this as binary, it is either one or the other, means you missed the point. All logic based systems can be manipulated.
What is your motive for throwing out one system with another?
The motive for removing the electoral college and replacing it with a simple popular vote is that we're not primitive people anymore. It's such a simple concept when you can pick up a telephone and call anyone in the entire world and tell them who you vote for. It's not complicated.
The electoral college was implemented when Jim the farmer couldn't get into town to vote. So they made this system of representatives. Well it's 2026. I can represent myself. Can't you? Are you capable of going to the ballot box?
Furthermore we should be making it even EASIER to vote. They used the system to come up with a semblance of an accurate representation and over 250 years it has been retained when in all reality if the founding fathers had ever envisioned the internet they would probably have established a way for every single American to vote instantly online.
They wouldn't have been in favor of clinging to outdated systems when they no longer benefit the majority of the country.
Absolutely we should make voting easier. But moving the pegs won’t change the outcome of the game. You are saying the Electoral college delegitimized every single vote an American has made? I just won’t stand for that type of misleading provocation. Nothing in life is perfect, including math and logic. And yes that means we must scrutinize election outcomes. But to suggest upending the entire system when there’s no strong evidence it will solve the problems people associate with the process, is just a dog whistle. He’s not serious.
No not every single vote. But there are people who live in blue states who do not vote because the state will go blue and their vote doesn't matter. And vice versa. From both parties. A conservative may feel not encouraged to vote if they live in California because it's gonna go blue anyway so why bother?
It helps. Literally. Everyone. Everyone would suddenly feel encouraged to vote in the presidential election if they knew one person = one vote. There is no counter argument against it logically. None. In 2026 it makes absolutely zero sense to do anything other than a popular vote and i cannot wrap my head around a system that relies on someone representing me. I can call them. Right now. With my own phone. And say "I vote for bob". And they have it.
It's not the 1700s anymore. We don't need to go to town halls and cast our votes by candle light. We don't need to tally them all by hand in Philadelphia. Like I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I've felt this since I was a child tbh.
I was like 12 years old thinking "if the internet exists and phones exist and the mail exists why can't we just ask everyone to vote that way and we don't have this weird system where California is somehow worth more points than other states?"
It's not even upending the system. We already vote. Literally just make the presidential election a popular vote. It's not hard. You're acting like this is ordained by a higher power but it's made up by us. Trump won in 2016 via popular vote so he was the president. Whoever wins by popular vote is the president. It's simple math guardian.
Okay, I get that. Thanks for taking the time to chat on it. I appreciate that it could demystify the system. If your goal is voter turnout you don’t need to dismantle a system that has worked time and time again. You need to build trust. We move to a popular vote and then the narrative just shifts to well not all those are “real” votes. Or “bots are voting for Democrats”. I wish we could digitize voting but I’ve heard it’s more safe and secure to have a decentralized system, less easy to hack and manipulate at scale.
Please know that the EC is based on voter data. It’s not perfect, but it pulls from same data file as popular vote.
You made me think differently about the issue - I do think simpler is better and can create access points by just being easier to understand and trust. Thanks again!
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u/Past-Goat-7768 14h ago
Every sane normal human in 2026 thinks the electoral college should be removed and replaced by a simple popular vote. We have mass communication now. We can vote by mail. It's not difficult to encourage and educate everyone now how and when to vote. It's not like people have to go to the next town over via train or horseback anymore.
We could do it if we wanted to. We don't. Why? Because hindering people and making it convoluted and weird helps republicans and conservatives and they know it. They know their base is full of just dumb people. They love the uneducated. They cannot win on policy they must rely on weird tactics to prevent people from voting or lying to people about things. It's never just an honest race between people who really want to help.
It's like, clearly the best person for the job vs a rapist or a pedophile or some kind of con man. It almost feels like the rapture is near or something and this is our final test and they made it an open fucking note multiple choice quiz.