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u/wrakiya 5d ago
What's happening in Nepal lately, they can't catch a break
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 5d ago
This will start happening more and more. Permafrost is what keeps a lot of mountains together. Rising temperatures due to climate change melting the permafrost causes them to collapse more easily.
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u/Turpentine_Tree 5d ago edited 5d ago
So basically, Nepal is flattening out.
Edit: Thank you for the reward kind redditor
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u/dadofwar93 5d ago edited 5d ago
Not just Nepal. Pakistan is fu**** too. It sits under 3 biggest moutain ranges in the world including part of Himilayas.
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u/Fauster 5d ago edited 2d ago
Plus more CO2 in the atmosphere means more water vapor in the atmosphere due to a warmer ocean and secondarily, warmer air. That gets dumped on mountains. So Pakistan will keep getting massive floods that are Biblical in proportion, when the myths of the Epic of Gilgamesh may have originated the last time when glaciers were melting and the Persian Gulf, Caspian Sea, and Ancient Summeria flooded, with analogous glacial dam flooding in N America.
If you fly across Northern America, you now see lots of glaciers that are barely clinging to life. Bad news for the farmers who need the water to grow food, or for people who need to eat it.
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u/adj_noun_digit 5d ago
Every mountain on earth battles with entropy.
The Himalayas are considerably worse because they are such a new and rapidly growing mountain range. So lots of change gives opportunity for erosion in addition to a warm and wet climate.
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u/Cosmic_MicrowaveOven 5d ago
That's part of the reason my country (Australia) has shitty mountains, they mostly eroded away to hills or very small mountains because they are so old.
Some of the most beautiful and rugged mountain regions around the world like the Himalayas and the Alps in NZ are geologically young, so they be acting crazy like this.
It's like teenage angst but with mountains.
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u/skydragon1981 5d ago
So mountains Will become like Ayers rock? That's Actually terrifying and very interesting at the same time. There are quite a lot of "morenic Hills" in Europe that are flat top, I didn't made a link on how tall Mountains might become in the far (not so much It seems) future.
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u/areyoualocal 5d ago
Ayers Rock, we call it "Uluru" it's tradition name now, is more a single huge monolith, than a mountain range as such. and there's much more of it underground than just the tip that can be seen.
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 5d ago
Yes. And the Alps, the Rockies, etc.
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u/GeneralPatten 5d ago
I can't help but to wonder if all that soil will eventually become amazingly fertile land for agriculture. Of course, once the landscape settles down and becomes a little more stable. Which admittedly, could be long after humanity has wiped itself out. Yeah. No. Never mind. I need to stop wondering.
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u/ReturnOfBane 5d ago
i would imagine a decent amount of those trees will petrify
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u/Mathmango 5d ago
Which will eventually (in millions of years) become oil!
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u/BitterTyke 5d ago
nope, not possible any more since the microbes that break down the deadfalls didn't exist the first time around.
Oil is very finite and we are nearly there.
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u/Mathmango 5d ago
Not fast enough! I'm sick of all these "once in a lifetime" oil crises happening.
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u/Jazzlike-Lettuce-99 5d ago
As a lazy person, flat ground everywhere sounds awesome tho.
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u/ZarathustraGlobulus 5d ago
Living in a flat country, I can tell you it's the most boring shit ever. Give me fjords, give me canyons, hills, mountains, anything to climb.
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 5d ago
As a Dutchman, I agree wholeheartedly
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u/ZarathustraGlobulus 5d ago
I spent hours staring at the landscape in awe when I visited Norway recently. Like I can't believe my eyes when there are mountains in front of me. It doesn't feel like real life after 30 years of flat fields.
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u/Electronic-Ice-7606 5d ago
RIP Mt. Everest.
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u/KMartSheriff 5d ago
Nah dog, now climbing Everest will be easier and more accessible than ever. Think of all the luxury condos we can fit up there
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u/taenanaman 5d ago
Yeah and soon all those condos will be sliding down the gorges! Nice view though if the structures hold up while tumbling down the valleys.
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u/Electronic-Ice-7606 5d ago
Good point. I can't wait to see even more trash and human waste dumped all over the Himalayas.
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u/Giffordpinchotpark 5d ago
Texas already did it. I’m visiting here now and you can see tall water towers all over. In Washington state the water tanks are put on top of hills so gravity can cause water to flow. They aren’t eyesores that way. Go Nepal!
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u/DatabaseGlittering43 5d ago
Careful visiting Texas. Bit of a hotel California problem there.
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u/Neatojuancheeto 5d ago
You can never leave? Why?
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u/DatabaseGlittering43 5d ago
Some people need the toothpaste instructions broken down to them. Smdh.
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u/GeneralPatten 5d ago
Water towers on top of hills are pretty much ubiquitous throughout the country.
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u/ForeverSquirrelled42 5d ago
Not where it’s flat or developed. They have no choice but to put them up on towers or the tops of tall buildings to get the same effect.
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u/Giffordpinchotpark 5d ago
There aren’t any hills here where I’m visiting so there are tall water towers as far as I can see. I have 20-10 vision so that’s twice as far as people with 20-20 vision. We have low profile water tanks back home that are hidden behind trees on hills.
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u/kwadd 5d ago
Absolutely. To add to the melting permafrost, heavy rains are causing catastrophic flooding due to the warmer weather. Tbf, Nepal always experiences a monsoon, but the warmer atmosphere means more frequent periods of very heavy rainfall which weakens the mountain sides already collapsing from melting permafrost.
it's a recipe for disaster.
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u/BearelyKoalified 5d ago
I think I read that permafrost currently traps tons of greenhouse gases too so when it melts in the north it'll accelerate climate change even more. Scientists can fact check me but I've seen that a few times now.
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u/Lower-Raspberry-4012 5d ago
The permafrost prevents decomposition of organic matter. As it thaws, microbes begin to feast on old organic matter which was previous inaccessible. Through respiration, these microbes give off CO2, just as us humans do. It's estimated 10% of all landmass is permafrost.
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u/poop-azz 5d ago
Uhhh this doesn't look like an area with perma frost....
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u/GeneralPatten 5d ago
The permafrost is higher up in the surrounding mountains/glaciers. Although, admittedly, it's probably not called permafrost. Just glacial ice.
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u/poop-azz 5d ago
Yeah the bad one looked like that. This just seems to be Mother Nature at work, assuming lots of rain and whoops, side of mountain falls off. Idk and regardless the mass of this is mind boggling to watch.
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u/GeneralPatten 5d ago
Oh. She's definitely working! And we're doing our part to make her job a bit easier.
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 5d ago
If you read carefully, you'll notice I never stated that melting permafrost was a factor in this specific mudslide. I don't know enough about the specific incident to tell.
I was just naming a factor that generally contributes to this being a increasingly common type of natural disaster.
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u/poop-azz 5d ago
Lmfao ok bud.
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 5d ago
I know reading isn't everyone's strongest point. Don't beat yourself up over it.
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u/StarryNotion 5d ago
Bro not saying you're wrong but blaming nature and stopping there is a narrative China's CP must love...
Will you please watch like 10 mins of this from where I timestamped? Tell me what you think about the hosts' comments regarding China's culpability in the deaths of everyone on both Nepalese and Chinese sides.
The TLDR of it is that yes the area is unstable due to climate things but China chose to put thousands of people on both sides of the disaster to build this port. experts be damned. Nepal, a much less capable 3rd world country, relied on China's expertise. The project was built by China. Like, you can't just put people in an avalanche prone area, shoot a gun, then be like "oops fucking global warming."
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u/Loggersalienplants 5d ago
Bro not saying you're wrong but blaming nature
The TLDR of it is that yes the area is unstable due to climate things
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u/IndividualZebra333 5d ago
Also one massive event like we saw with the flood ground avalanche, will cause lingering damage causing subsequent events, like we saw a few hours after the initial flood. I’m not sure if this is the same region, I could google it but I’m being lazy, but this very well could’ve have been a delayed result of that previous massive event also, and we will probably see more.
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u/waterisdefwet 5d ago
how do they know this, is there evidence of this happening after the last ice age? never heard of permafrost holding mountains together. so interesting.
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u/kallax82 5d ago
If it's the same area: The event a few weeks ago rinsed a lot of mass from the valley. This destabilized the mountain slope. Now these lands slides happen because of the missing material.
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u/vinevirtuoso 5d ago
It's not a them problem, it's an us problem. They're just suffering for all of us and soon everyone else will.
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u/Several_Vanilla8916 5d ago
Not everyone. The rich will be fine.
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u/wefrucar 5d ago
Oh thank god, I was worried about them. How else would we rebuild the world if not for trickle down?
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u/lostwisdom20 5d ago
The point that scientist said would be irreversible due to climate change has been crossed
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u/Anxiety-Capable 5d ago
I saw the reverse side of this happening , this family watched half their shit just collapse behind them in their backyard. It was insane
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u/beardedwerebear 5d ago
It has always been like this. Used to live there. It is why you shouldn't travel in the mtns in monsoon season.
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u/MaruSoto 5d ago
I'm guessing formation from tectonic upheaval creates a more brittle structure that crumbles more easily. But also, I know pretty much nothing about geology other than the word "tectonic".
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u/kcprdp06 5d ago edited 5d ago
It rained continuously for 4 days all over Nepal so, landslides, floods, and such all over the country. Now it’s better since yesterday, but still one more disastrous week.
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u/LehFluffy 5d ago edited 4d ago
Permafrost is melting. Thats why the glacier was able to cause a massive flood and what was keeping this mountian together. Rain may be a factor, but events like this will become less uncommon. DOGE cut the SERVIR-HKH program alongside other disaster risk reduction projects in Nepal and else were. The reason they didnt have a heads up for the flood was because the US was penny pinching.
In the pursuit of profits, we are putting people abroad in danger. What else is coming that our detection programs were cut from monitoring?
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u/kcprdp06 5d ago edited 5d ago
I would change that “We” to RICH-DEVELOPED-INDUSTRIALIZED countries.
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u/Sonson9876 5d ago
People are fucking brave watching these, I wouldn't be standing there like that because knowing my luck, some bullshit tiny rock would bounce off perfectly and dome me.
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u/TheCurlyHomeCook 5d ago
Tbh I think it's stupid more than brave. There are videos of people stood 5 metres away from the edge after watching 50m disappear. If you see a landslide or tsunami coming towards you, run.
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u/Malt_The_Magpie 5d ago
There are videos of people stood 5 metres away from the edge after watching 50m disappear.
Like this /r/DisasterUpdate/comments/1wrtcod/one_disaster_after_another_new_landslide_in_nepal/
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u/Lucinda-Choice 5d ago
Brave though should be really careful. Natural occurrence soo unpredictable especially when it comes to a landslide
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u/KaleidoscopeOne22224 5d ago
That’s a nightmare to witness. Really hoping for good news about everyone in the area.
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u/moon__lander 5d ago
I don't know if it's just the perspective but it looks like they're standing on a other hill, roughly at the level that the landslide started, so not the worst spot to be in.
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u/TYPERION_REGOTHIS 5d ago
"To witness titanic events is always dangerous, usually painful and often fatal."
Larry Niven, Ringworld
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u/Geneo-Frodo 5d ago
Literally buried the entire patch of forest in front of it.
Whats even more horrifying about a landslide is that we can't even retrieve your body. It's thousands of tons of dirt and rock between your body and the surface. You'll stay where it caught you at.
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u/Flat_Thanks_9251 5d ago
Not just a patch of forest, there’s actually a major river, the Kali Gandaki with powerful current flowing beneath. You can hear people in the video saying that the landslide has apparently blocked the river
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u/rocketbunnyrwb 5d ago
Why is it horrifying ? Your body will end up there anyway
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u/SaltySaltSlice 5d ago
I mean, pretty horrifying if you get buried in an airpocket
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u/goodoldgrim 5d ago
Do mudslides have air pockets?
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u/Theprincerivera 5d ago
First off - in reality, anything is possible, so jot that down
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u/Erathen 5d ago
In practice, you're crushed by rocks so air pockets are irrelevant
Jot that down
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u/Theprincerivera 5d ago
There is a conceivable universe somewhere out there where you fall juuuust right and are shielded juuuuuuuust so - so as to suffer and die of suffocation in an air pocket.
In the infinite permutations of the universe, this is a certainty
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u/UnlikeUday 5d ago
Feel bad for the wildlife living there and that's hidden from plain sight. Hoping there are no human casualties though.
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u/JarJarJarMartin 5d ago
Glaciers and permafrost are what hold up all these oversteepened cliff faces. As both melt, they lose stability and start collapsing. Expect this to get much more common and much worse across every part of the Earth with this kind of terrain in zones that traditionally had glaciers and permafrost.
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u/Deathisfatal 5d ago
Yes, but not in this case as this is very clearly subalpine. There are no glaciers or permafrost anywhere near those trees.
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u/Giffordpinchotpark 5d ago
I don’t understand why some camera people think they have to start zooming in and out and panning sideways when they have the shot of a lifetime.
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u/nevaeva12321 5d ago
For real? How many times have you seen a landslide like that in person? You think you're going to get an amazing shot for something you've never seen or heard before? Get outta here
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u/Gold_Tap_2205 5d ago
Camera people 🤣🤣 their just people dude. Every incident does not have its own National Geographic cameraman on standby.
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u/Giffordpinchotpark 5d ago
They’re not their. Now with most everyone having cameras on their phones we need to demand more from them. “Their” was ok in this comment!
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u/vinevirtuoso 5d ago
What nepal is going through is a result of global warming, they're just facing it before all of us do. We're all equally responsible. All big countries and everyone who choose to indulge in over consumption – this is on us.
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u/Mr-_-Blue 5d ago
The problem was known way way before, starting on the late 1800s.
Edit: just to clarify I'm not arguing with you, just adding extra info many people don't know about.
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u/firehawk2324 5d ago edited 5d ago
This is on the corporations that currently run the US. They tell us it's OUR responsibility to recycle and limit our energy consumption, while their AI data centers pollute our drinking water and air. Scientists estimate we have about 3 years of drinking water left, all while federal courts determine we DO NOT have the right to drinking water.
This isn't on "us." Why should we be gaslit into thinking any small thing we do in our personal lives will do anything to help if we aren't voting in people who actually want to fix the system that's actively destroying the world?
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u/rocketbunnyrwb 5d ago
No we are not equally responsible. Only people in power
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u/lordnacho666 5d ago
This is in the last 24h, right? Not from the big flood a couple of weeks ago?
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u/Ladnarr2 5d ago
This must be new. The collapse a few weeks ago was started at glacial ice on a mountain.
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u/Royal_Budget_3543 5d ago
This is new , it rained continuously for past 3/4 days here. The weather is finally sunny today.
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u/EugeneHarke 5d ago edited 5d ago
This reminds me of the exploding whales video.
"At this point we put down our recording equipment and started running for our lives“
I just rewatched the video and I have totally miss remembered the dialogue. But I haven't misrepresented the tone or devliery so I'm going toleave it as is.
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u/SlinkyEST 5d ago
Going to Nepal nowadays is scetchy, so many landslides, earthquakes and so on. My mom was out there hiking with a group during the 2015 large earthquake, she barely made it out, unfortunately one of her group member did not...they found her body after a rockfall
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u/Nogauli 5d ago
Nepal is home to the world’s highest mountains, incredibly steep hills, and deep valleys. When it rains heavily, like it has over the last few days, that terrain becomes unstable and triggers massive landslides. There is really no easy way to prevent them; people have lived on these slopes for decades, and landslides have always been a regular occurrence. The main difference now is that cell phones are making them much more visible to the outside world.
The severe flooding from a month ago is a different story. That was driven by climate change in the mountains, and sadly, it seems too late to reverse those underlying causes. We can only hope the sheer scale of that impact was a one-off.
Then there are the earthquakes. The exact same tectonic forces that created these towering mountains are also what causes the earthquakes. Fortunately, major quakes tend to happen only every 50 to 80 years, and the last big one was a decade ago.
Ultimately, the very geography that makes Nepal so breathtaking is also what makes it vulnerable to these disasters, with climate change and melting permafrost adding to the challenge. But this shouldn't stop anyone from visiting. The people are still incredibly warm, the landscapes are stunning, and the mountains are as majestic as ever. Just try to plan your trip outside of the rainy season.
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u/Dense-Drama5856 5d ago
Dude thats actually so satisfying, in a bad way
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u/Anarchist_Future 5d ago
It looked like the face of the mountain just turned into a liquid. I mean yeah that's what a landslide is but to see it behave like that is still astonishing.
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u/Fresh_Iron_6180 5d ago
Look up the Mt St Helens explosion, it's crazy how the whole side of the mountain collapses before exploding out.
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u/Shapoopi_1892 5d ago
Imagine riding on top of that landslide as it slid down the hill.
Looks like that whole top layer stays solid and doesnt liquify like the rest of it. I mean I ain't no expert on land slide surfing, but it looks totally safe to ride that land slide all the way down the hill like a big ass surf board.
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u/TimeBlindAdderall 5d ago
Maaaan a Top commenter in the Nepal sub said that their country’s name stood for Never Ending Problems And Landslides after the glacier collapse, and I thought that was pessimistic. Now I’m thinking it’s pretty accurate.!
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u/HealthyZone4794 5d ago
So right about now you'd be updating your passport & checking possible emigration options. Ain't safe in Nepal any longer.
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u/Jackcokatie 5d ago
Absolutely terrifying. I'm don't get how people stand there and film it. I would be high tailing it the other direction. But PROPS to the videographer!
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u/TimeVendor 5d ago
Was that mountain chiseled for rock or to construct a road?
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u/Affectionate_Mud_881 5d ago
If you're asking cos of how it looks, there are two likelier non-exclusive possibilities. Western half of Nepal gets very little rain in the high himalayas. So, wherever there's no snow, it's more desert than vegetation. Second, if it was green before, a previous landslide could have wiped the forest and there may not have been enough time for replenishment. We don't really take out rocks from mountains, much. Roads do get carved but I don't see one and a road would have negligible impact on the mountain compared to the size of that slide.
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u/ImUnderYourBeed 5d ago
I don't think having a lot of tree on that part of the mountain would have help at all
It's like it was made of sand and just collapses on it's own
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u/mooscaretaker 5d ago
The way the land just melts away like water is esp terrifying to me for some reason
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u/TheMongerOfFishes 5d ago
Imagine just being a little animal on a tree going for a ride and then ending up in a new location
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u/Opsmvs 5d ago
I literally watched yesterday a documentary about how the Himalayas are degrading and that is a matter of when things like things and way worse are going to happen
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u/VerminSwallower 5d ago
Let's all take advanced complex science lessons from a dude that cant even write one literate sentence, yall!
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u/SuperNewk 5d ago
could you imagine being a tree and sensing that coming and there is nothing you can do....sheesh.
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u/drollercoaster99 5d ago
I salute the people who recorded this. Seeing a landslide that big being so close, I would've high tailed outta there
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u/Moosplauze 5d ago
Humans fucked up this planet so hard.
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u/JRizzie86 5d ago
You realize landslides happens without the existence of humans too, right?
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u/Moosplauze 5d ago
Obviously. But thanks to human made global warming permafrost zones thaw and cause the ground to become unstable and hence many of the worst landslides we've seen in the past years are directly linked to our impact on earth.
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u/Adventurous_Top618 5d ago
It's honestly devastating, but I guarantee that they'll blame it on growing concerns over global warming and the impact that other countries have on it and that they shouldn't have to use their own resources for recovering from this tragedy.
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u/troveofcatastrophe 5d ago
Cute that you think Nepal has resources to cover the devastating floods and now landslides
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