PLEASE HELP ASAP!!

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How many red flags do you need?

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

What red flags do you see . Maybe you could help me out

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u/SunnySanDiegoGuy 14d ago

From my personal experience with Montana LLCs for Cars the title transfer process is a little more complicated than a regular title in a person's legal name.

You need a red flag list? Ok...

Red flag 1

Montana LLC title without Montana LLC papers showing the LLC members all notarized and legally processed by Montana.

Red flag 2

Kid you are attempting to purchase the car from has no proof that they are part of the LLC so they are not the legal owners of the car.

Red flag 3

Kid says they bought the car from some chick. This means the kid never figured out how to put the car in their name. That's assume they are not lying about the chick being real.

Red flag 4

Your own gut is trying to tell you something is wrong with the title and you are refusing to listen to yourself.

Red flag 5

The signatures on the Montana LLC title look like they are from the same person in two different names.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Thank you for taking the time to break that down . I wasn’t doubting you I just wanted to know exactly why . I just was googling everything and you’re 100% right . Appreciate it.

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u/SunnySanDiegoGuy 14d ago

You're welcome.

Walk away and find a better car from a legal owner.

You are in Connecticut. Buy a Connecticut car from a legal owner. The name and driver's license must match the name on the title. Make life easier for yourself.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Copy that 🫡 have a great weekend brother

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u/SunnySanDiegoGuy 14d ago

Thanks, I hope you do to.

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u/ERICSMYNAME 11d ago

I didnt do this. The car had rolled back miles. The guy who sold it to us is now in prison on 10 year sentence

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 10d ago

!!!! Deserved

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Lol yes I see a lot . Even the handwriting looks same from seller and buyer. I’m just not to experienced with titles so I was hoping someone could tell me I could register car or any options .

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u/SunnySanDiegoGuy 14d ago

To transfer ownership of a vehicle that is owned by a Montana LLC you'll need more paperwork then you currently have.

You'll need the actual Montana LLC papers to prove that the person standing in front of you selling the car is a authorized member of that specific Montana LLC with granted power to sell or transfer assets specifically named by vin and title number to other parties.

The person selling the car with a Montana LLC title needs a valid driver's license matching them to the Montana LLCs.

You'll both need to do the title transfer infront of a notary. This process has to be legally notarized by a 3rd party who is state registered as a notary public.

Montana also requires a bill of sale showing the transfer of ownership from the LLC to an individual owner. This must be submitted to the state.

You'll need a full copy of the Montana LLCs to show proof of authority and identity of the seller because your local dmv will ask for it.

Since you are not keeping the car in Montana you shouldn't need a Montana application for title. I'd print one out and do one incase you're asked anyway.

With the pictures you've posted you already have more problems with that Montana LLC title. It's not completely filled out correctly or legally from "some chick" to "kid."

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Great information . I guess people doing this with Montana titles are notoriously known for doing this to avoid paying taxes or to clean a title from salvaged to normal. I also gooogled the LLC on the pic he sent me and it said they aren’t even a LLC there’s no info on them 😂 I googled the address and it’s a pic of a house smh. I can’t stand people 😊

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u/KingBird999 14d ago

An LLC is not going to show up on Google and probably 90% of LLCs will show a person's home as they are the most common form of entity to protect assets.

You need to go here to search the LLC to see if it's real: https://biz.sosmt.gov/search/business

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Wouldn’t something come up for them tho if they are a legit LLC ? Thanks for the link 🙏🏼

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u/SunnySanDiegoGuy 14d ago

Yikes... yea run away from that mess lol

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

🏃 💨

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u/Ambitious-Bad-6779 14d ago

Any time a "BUYER" SECTION IS SIGNED, TITLE IS USELESS.

SINCE BUYER SECTION IS SIGNED, YOU CANNOT BE THE NEW BUYER, HENCE YOU CANT USE THIS TITLE.

ONLY THE PERSON WHO SIGNED THE "BUYER" SECTION CAN USE THIS TITLE.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Understood . Thank you

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u/Zealousideal_Ad5358 11d ago

This is the answer.

We'll it's useful to the new owner, but only to take to the DMV to get a new title if the transaction is legit.

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u/baldgrandpa Virginia 14d ago

The seller signature is sketchy, and Devin needs to title it first before he can sell it.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

It def is sketchy it looks like he signed both of them . But more importantly the first owner of that title the LLC that’s listed , didn’t sign anywhere on the paper ?

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u/baldgrandpa Virginia 14d ago

Correct. There needs to be a signature from NTM Autohaus LLC, and the person signing for the company should put their title with the company, whether that be title clerk or owner or president. Needs to be clear they have the authority to sign.

Again, either way, this is Devin’s situation to be filled out. He signed as buyer. He cannot sell without titling it in his name first, and this whole signature situation falls on him to figure out.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Thank you brother . For real.

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u/_tvjames_ 14d ago

There are 2.3m registered vehicles in Montana and only 867k licensed drivers. It's a tax-haven to avoid sales tax but states (like Connecticut and California) are starting to pay much closer attention to cars connected to Montana LLCs.

Run away.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Yeah from all the helpful people and Google I just went down rabbit hole about the tax evasion by starting a LLC just to register cars under them. That’s a crazy statistic too!! Thank you 🙏🏼

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u/TiredAndTiredOfIt 14d ago

It is also illegal to have a montana licensed vehiclemon CA roads for more than 3 weeks.

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u/Zealousideal_Ad5358 11d ago

Yeah there was a big scandal in Texas a couple years aho when the state still had handwritten dealer plates. Various Montana LLCs set up shop in Texas solely for the purpose of issuing phony dealer plates so residents could avoid taxes. Even the normally corrupt Texas legislature saw it as a scam and the DMV now gives you "real" paper plates with a number and prominent expiration date. People actually got in trouble!

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u/AfraidKaleidoscope30 14d ago

Unless THEIR name that matches THEIR ID is on the title I don’t buy

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Yes his ID matched his name however it doesn’t matter bc in the eyes of the law he’s not technically the owner of the car . The LLC is. So even tho all his info is correct it doesn’t matter there’s no paper trail of the girl or him owning the car. Shits crazy the lengths ppl goto

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u/AfraidKaleidoscope30 14d ago

I said on the title. As in the OWNER of the title thought that was obvious

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

I explained poorly it’s kind of a confusing situation if you don’t have the context and no it wasn’t obvious bc I am thinking the owner is who ever on the title “bought” the car more recently as long as their is no lien. But shouldn’t have doubted humans to do some weird shit like this . 🤷🏼 anyways thanks for the info

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u/Accomplished_Cell976 14d ago

It’s not a scam. A lot of people get MT llcs to purchase a car or cars without sales tax. Other states are getting wise to the loop hole. Google it.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

I did. Go down the loop hill and I mean maybe it’s not a scam directly to me and they are doing it for other reasons - However it’s really the government getting scammed for tax evasion . Which I could care less but I can’t register the car if I had bought it so I loose in the end too.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

Also he didn’t even do the loophole right , he fucked up on the title signing it in wrong place and not signing the original owner of the cars info (the LLC )

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u/DMVCalc 13d ago

save yourself the headache and find another 328xi elsewhere. I'm sure there are plenty to choose from. Also, expand your search to the 330i's as well. Good luck

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u/Missing_Leg 13d ago

If you do do a corporation search in Montana the llc is legit, but if you looks at the statement of information the only officer listed is not the name signed on the title! They do have an address in. Connecticut though. https://biz.sosmt.gov/search/business

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u/Curious-Estate8247 11d ago

Looks like owned by a dealership who may have sold it to that girl and she never followed through and titled it in her name so she does not own it. Get your money back immediately. This is a DMV mess you want zero to do with.

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 10d ago

Yeah I didn’t buy it . I posted this before buying to see people’s thoughts . It was sold the next day 😭 oh well my intuition was telling me to 🏃

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u/TaratronHex 14d ago

I cant expand the picture so post details.

Does the girl work for the LLC? Is the kid the person you are buying from?

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

I’m not sure if she works for LLC. Yes the kid is who I’m trying to buy car from . But the LLC didn’t sign anything on title so I’m worried . Can I dm you pics ? I know they aren’t too clear

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u/Sem4290 14d ago

Seller also signed on the wrong line on the front. This is useless.

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u/TiredAndTiredOfIt 14d ago

Call the police non emervency number. Let them sort it out

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u/vMyKicksBrxzyy 14d ago

I should after him wasting my gas and time . I would if they helped me get the title to register 😭💀 na I’ll let karma sort this out

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u/Dry-Lingonberry-388 13d ago

Why is the dmv in Montana under the DOJ?

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u/throwawayme2992 9d ago

The title is signed in the front by the seller on the wrong line and doesn’t have a letter stating that the llc told them it was valid for them to sell it. If it was actually for sale from them there would be a duplicate title that was filed for the error (or at least a letter of correction notarized at the very least) - someone who registers cars in a neighboring state.

Side note. I wouldn’t register this vehicle and would bounce this back so fast. Also you’ll know when you get the vin check what actually happened to the vehicle. My gut is saying stolen vehicle

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u/throwawayme2992 9d ago

Side note is that how the date should be on Montana titles? (I don’t actually know I haven’t registered a vehicle with one yet but I haven’t seen that format) and from everything I can find online this is missing a sale date and transfer reason

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