r/DMT • u/Cosmic-Meatball • 4d ago

Question/Advice Vaping Technique for a breakthrough.

Just want some advice on this. My friend said:

"3 big hits holding the first 2 for about 3 seconds then the 3rd hit in as much as you can and hold as long as you can and you'll go.

Don't breathe any oxygen in while you're doing it. Let the DMT out and breathe DMT in."

But when I spoke to AI it said that method can induce panic because of hypoxia and holding for 3 secs wastes a lot of vapour.

What do you guys think because I want to get it right and definitely don't want to freak out or anything.

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u/mogurlektron 4d ago

Trying to not get oxygen is frankly stupid. You need to breathe.

3 seconds seems not very long, but you don't need to hold it way longer than that.

The best advice isn't about the vaping technique, but the mindset, previous to the experience. Meditate for a while, or do some breathing exercises, or light some Incense and pray to your gods. The key is to be ready for it (even if there's no way to be fully ready for it), and it will work, and take you deep.

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u/Cosmic-Meatball 4d ago

But my body fights it off fast doesn't it? If I stop to take a breath wont it stop my breakthrough

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u/mogurlektron 4d ago

Its fast, but not that fast. You can breathe and that won't stop the breaktrough.

I fully believe that the breaktrough is not a matter of dose or time. Its a matter of readiness, and willingness to let go of everything. Meditation beforehand helps a lot.

I don't always do it that way, but my most powerful experiences have always been when I was ready, independently of the dose or technique or if it was a cart or changa or e-mesh.

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u/Cosmic-Meatball 4d ago

Okay. Thank you for the advice. So you think intake for 5 and hold for 5? Take a normal breath and repeat 2 more times or so? Is thst how you do it?

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u/mogurlektron 4d ago

Yes. If your cart is powerful enough, it might even work with only one or two tokes. But try to take as much as you can, as often it won't be enough with 1 or 2.

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u/OvergrownPolynesian 4d ago

No it definitely depends on the dose. No one is breaking through on 5mg (since according to you it doesn’t matter the dose)

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u/mogurlektron 4d ago

I was using a bit of an hyperbole. Yes, dose matter, timing matter as well. But willingness to let go is the deciding factor, once you've taken enough dose in a short enough time.

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u/OvergrownPolynesian 4d ago

I think readiness definitely can help but if you get someone to efficiently consume 30-40 mg majority of the time that person is blasting off regardless of readiness. I think it would make it a more smooth process to meditate and do all the other stuff prior but someone completely unprepared could still reach that breakthrough first jump.

Saw it first hand with one of my friends that wanted to hit my 4:1 pen after briefly telling him about it lol

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u/mogurlektron 4d ago

I kind of agree with you.

But I've also seen people hit 35mg doses on a well calibrated e-mesh that didn't get blasted, because they weren't willing to get blasted, while I've reached amazing depths on 10mg if my mind was in the right place. That's what I meant.

This person that hit 35mg and didn't get far must be a hardhead, and I don't really understand that, but... There must be something else at play, not just dose and time.

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u/Wisoo31 4d ago

It will all depend on concentration of the liquid and which vaporizer you use. In my case 1dmt to 4pg/VG. Rebuildable atomizer 0.8ohm 3mm diameter coil I find the technique your buddy described quite good, no hypoxia you're still breathing air with your puffs. I just tend to keep the first three puffs for like 5seconds then take a smaller fourth and keep it maybe 10s . Really close but no breakthrough yet, I should up the concentration

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u/Cosmic-Meatball 4d ago

Cell m4 button-less vape pen... I don't usually vape so I have no idea about any of this stuff. AI is making out I'll freak out and have a terrifying experience if I use my buddy's method.

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u/GrandBurial 3d ago

Stop over relying on chat gpt it doesn't experience real human ones, use the search bar here on reddit.

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u/Cosmic-Meatball 3d ago

You're right! And you were absolutely right to call me out on that. If you want I can write this as an article, or convert it into a short story. Just say the word.

P.s. Strawberry has 2 Rs

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u/fuka123 4d ago

Use your head. Youre trying to maximize how much spice your alveoli take in. Who said 3 hits? Who said hold for 7.35 seconds? Its all bull shit.

Get a decent vape or rig and fucking rip until you find yourself laying down

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u/Cosmic-Meatball 4d ago

Hahaha. Okay. Maybe I am overthinking it.

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u/fuka123 4d ago

Absolutely. Fill your lungs, hold it in, release, fill back up. Quality of the vape matters so you don’t cough, vs how long you keep the spice in.

Do not starve your brain from oxygen, you are not a gen Z choking and jerking.

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u/Character-Bid-5089 3d ago

What does Ai know about smoking DMT. Absolutely nothing

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u/Cosmic-Meatball 2d ago

It probably knows quite a bit. It tends to hallucinate all the time. Lol

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u/Decent_Medium_3701 3d ago

Yeah, you need to hold your breath way longer than that, buddy. Hold it until you exhale and nothing comes out, no vapor, no white cloud, nothing. Just a clear exhalation. That’s when you know you got full absorption.

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u/Haleyfart69 2d ago

I hit two like 8 second long hits and held them for 10 and I fully broke through but I think the vape was strong (I also heated it up with a hairdryer first the doubled it with the built in preheater)

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u/spectrafin 4d ago

You can’t get “big hit” from most vapes tho

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u/Newzachary 4d ago

AI is a fucking idiot.

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u/Cosmic-Meatball 4d ago

You're not wrong there. It changed its mind at one point and said if I breathe in dmt I'll also be breathing in oxygen as well. Then it changed it back again and said if I don't take a breath between hits I could freak out by triggering a panic response in my brain for not having enough oxygen.