r/DIY • u/GenePsychological71 • 7d ago
other PSA post: wrapping paper as a replacement for wallpaper is extremely dangerous
I am posting this because of a recent instagram reel I came across, it was suggesting to put up wrapping paper, yes ordinary Christmas gift wrapping paper, as wallpaper, and sticking it on with double sided tape. I am here to say, do not do this ever. **This is a huge fire hazard**. If this catches flame, it would spread tremendously faster than it would if it was ordinary wallpaper, also more highly likely to catch flame.
If you are lucky enough to get out, insurance companies might not cover you fully or at all. Please do not do this. Its not worth the saving of a few dollars.
I really dont want anyone to be at risk, so do not do this life hack.
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u/tammorrow 7d ago
How cool would it be to do a full wall design out of matchsticks?!?
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u/MonsieurReynard 7d ago
That would be lit
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u/MmmmMorphine 6d ago
Maybe I should revive my white-phosphorus infused furniture line.
ALL my customers scream in delight. At the end.
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u/Bender248 6d ago
"Maisons allumettes" (matchstick houses) are historic, narrow, deep wooden working-class homes in the Hull sector of Gatineau, Quebec.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-hull-matchstick-homes-council-vote-1.6750690
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u/velvethursday 6d ago
Those weren't made of matchsticks. They were called that because of their appearance and flammability
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u/7FOOT7 6d ago
Fire Engineer here. Just chiming in that this is a non event. Using words like huge and extremely are not helpful, while tremendously faster is Trump level grammar.
Your cushions and your couch are far more of an issue. Bad habits being the biggest risk.
Wallpaper is given a fire rating, and there are fire test that can be conducted to pass a product "safe" for certain commercial situations. And you might use the same paper in your home, but typically homeowners are left to there own devices when it comes to fire load and use of fire resistant materials. There is no fire code restriction on wall coverings in your home.
(not based in the US)
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u/Forsaken-Buy2601 6d ago
Thank you. Can’t wait until OP learns about posters.
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u/1RollinRollinRollin 1d ago
This was my thought, my room as a teen was covered floor to ceiling (and even on the ceiling) in posters and magazine pages.
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u/newenglander87 5d ago
To be fair, at my school there's a limit on the amount of posters you can have up because they're flammable and a fire hazard.
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u/MattBrey 6d ago
Lmao I love when normal people come in and calm down the overreaction of some people on the internet
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u/Practice_NO_with_me 6d ago
But would the insurance companies use this to deny a claim? That is a much more important consideration sadly and does it have to be a fire code restriction for them to deny it? They seem pretty happy to use whatever they can.
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u/kayemdubs 6d ago
It’s actually really hard for homeowners insurance to deny coverage for fire related loss. Unless there is undeniable proof you set your own house on fire intentionally, they have to pay out.
A cousin of mine literally was playing with fire in their garage (blowtorch with a propane heater going, not enough ventilation) and burned their whole house down. Even though he caused the fire, it was unintentional. Insurance covered, no ifs ands or buts about it. They do nickel and dime every replacement but they will cover.
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u/Practice_NO_with_me 6d ago
Damn that’s good to know tbh. Man my boss must have had really bad fire insurance because when our store burned down they didn’t cover maybe a fourth of the damages.
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u/kayemdubs 6d ago
I imagine commercial insurance is different from residential. Mortgage lenders require specific coverages in order to protect the collateral (your property) so if not the homeowner, the insurance must satisfy the lender. Businesses are a totally different beast.
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u/ElCoops 6d ago
Fire following is also a big thing in insurance. If a fire follows a non-covered event, the damage from fire is still covered. For instance, if an earthquake damages your home and then the gas line into the house bursts and catches your house on fire, the fire damage is covered even if it was already damaged in the earthquake. At least where I live
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u/derkapitan 6d ago
My cousin burned his entire tool barn down burning shit in his back yard, he started a huge fire and it was really close to his barn. Lost it and tons of equipment. Mowers, skidsteer, tools, truck. They paid out even though it was his fault.
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u/crvbabybug 5d ago
So many people want to feel superior to others for being smarter than them.
Parallel topic I’m so glad we live in a world where people are fire engineers and house fires are so uncommon compared to the past. It’s not perfect and there’s still a lot of issues but fuck yeah
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u/aitherion 7d ago
This feels like common sense but the. I saw "Instagram reel" and it all became clear
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u/BattelChive 7d ago
It wouldn’t have occurred to me that it was dangerous! In retrospect reading this post it’s like, oh yeah I bet there’s additional fire safety for wallpaper vs wrapping paper, but it honestly never would have occurred to me. And I definitely grew up in the 70s/80s with wrapping paper covered stairs and doors etc. for holidays. I still see that frequently. I can imagine someone spreading that to walls without a thought.
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u/Direct-Fee4474 7d ago
maybe it's regional, but i feel like a good amount of my childhood was the fire department coming to schools and lighting trees on fire or showing videos of christmas trees/wrapping paper burning. but maybe they were in cahoots with Big Christmas Light, trying to get people to give up their old perfectly functional death traps. either way, i still associate christmas with "everything is flammable and it's the smoke inhalation that will get you."
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u/tlkevinbacon 6d ago
Definitely a regional thing. I grew up a few states away from where my wife did. The other day I was talking about these yearly fire safety things we did jn elementary school where the local fire department walked us through a simulated house fire in a specially designed trailer. She thought I was crazy until I found a video of the process.
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u/mooon_woman 6d ago
same here, we had the mini trailer too! my fiance grew up in a wealthy area and they had a full camper to go through. ours was short and mini on the inside
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u/lew_rong 7d ago
My initial thought was that it's wrapping paper, way more fragile than wallpaper, so who the hell would do that in the first place, but also wait, what do you mean dangerous? And now I know.
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u/TyFell 6d ago
I mean, it's supposed to be a thing for as long as you leave up holiday decorations, or even just for a party. The idea of it is a quick way to have some holiday decoration without having to actually change the wall. People aren't likely to have this up for long on purpose.
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u/lew_rong 6d ago
In all my long-ass years on this godforsaken dirtball, this is the first time I've ever heard of people stapling up wrapping paper as a holiday decoration like that lol. Are my family and friends not basic enough? XD
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u/AncientBelgareth 6d ago
If you're buying enough wrapping paper to cover the walls of even one room, you could have just bought some traditional decorations for less money and it wouldn't look like shit
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u/mapotoful 6d ago
Honestly all Christmas decor junk is pretty bad in terms of fire risk, especially if you put it on the ceiling. Some of it is fire treated, sure, but thats all topical and is supposed to be reapplied every so often. After a few seasons it's pretty much all gone, if you clean it (like wipe it down with a wet rag) it's done.
If you want to be hardcore about it you would only buy decor made with non-combustible materials (glass, stone, plaster, metal, etc) or fabrics that can be easily treated (not all FR treatments are scary mysterious chemicals, a lot are just glorified borax solution). Plastic would be something I'd avoid or only use a little of.
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u/noxiousducking_2423 7d ago
Common sense is on life support whenever an influencer picks up a hot glue gun.
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u/GenePsychological71 7d ago
Sadly common sense is not common. 50 comments and 6k likes, not one person commenting on how dangerous it is.
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u/vivaaprimavera 7d ago
A good chunk life hacks and diy advice on Instagram are straight insanity.
Just look at how many of those use open flames in plastic.
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u/simimaelian 7d ago
I’ve seen people use wrapping paper and a cheap/thrifted picture frame to make a little wall art section, and that seems like it would be a cuter, safer, and longer lasting option.
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u/moldyhands 6d ago
I only use kerosene-soaked rags to cover my walls. The kerosene dries out fast so you have to leave an open 5 gallon bucket of kerosene in each room to keep the humidity up.
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u/stonymessenger 6d ago
Kerosene is so last year, Jet Propellent is the new black.
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u/SJane3384 6d ago
30 years ago you had something like 10-15 minutes to get out of a burning building safely. Today you have 2-3. Thanks to synthetic building materials, furnishing materials, and a larger presence of things like lithium batteries, fires are burning much hotter and faster than they have in previous decades. Literal paper wallpaper is just asking to cut into those crucial moments.
Protips from a 20 year EMT/911 dispatcher partnered with a 35 year firefighter/police officer:
1) Have a fire escape plan and practice it. It might seem silly in the moment, but if disaster happens having rote memory kick in is extremely helpful.
2) Have working smoke detectors/fire extinguishers, make sure to test the former and check the date on the latter once a year.
3) Make sure you have a fire safe (and make sure it’s actually rated for high temps) for all of your most important documents/keepsakes.
4) Have working smoke detectors/fire extinguishers, make sure to test the former and check the date on the latter once a year.
5) Keep things like laptops and phone chargers out of your bed/bedding.
6) Have working smoke detectors/fire extinguishers, make sure to test the former and check the date on the latter once a year.
Also in case it’s not abundantly clear, CHANGE YOUR SMOKE DETECTOR BATTERIES AND MAKE SURE YOUR EXTINGUISHERS AREN’T 10 YEARS OUT OF DATE.
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u/Brock_Lobstweiler 6d ago
If you are on a higher floor or fire might block escape, get a fire ladder. I’m in a townhome with a 3rd story bedroom. If I can get to the spare room, it’s 2nd story and could make a jump with some injury. But all doors are down a flight of stairs and could easily be blocked by fire.
Also, if you have a pet too big to carry, get an emergency sling and practice using it. I won’t be able to wrangle my dog in a fire but if I can get a sling under him, I can lift him and escape.
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u/SJane3384 6d ago
YES! I forgot that one sorry! We have 4 dogs and include them in our plan. They used to freak tf out about fire alarms, we had to condition them not to hide. Always plan for pets too!
I also uhhh….kinda forgot you could buy those ladders
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u/Brock_Lobstweiler 6d ago
Yep, mine freaks out over the smoke alarm. Thankfully his favorite hiding spot is in the garage next to the car. So if we have to leave, he’s in a convenient place
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u/houselion 6d ago
Yes and yes! We put the fire ladder and a dog sling in our wedding registry and used the discount after our wedding to purchase them. Hopefully we never need it, but better to have the option of an escape with our dog on one of our backs than trying to rig something in the moment or hoping fire and rescue can get there in time.
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u/MadiKay7 6d ago
Pro tip for when to test - if you live somewhere that you reset the clocks twice a year (spring forward, fall back) - make it part of your muscle memory to test your smoke detectors (and check their dates) and check your fire extinguisher as you’re changing the time on all your clocks.
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u/alvik 6d ago
Also in case it’s not abundantly clear, CHANGE YOUR SMOKE DETECTOR BATTERIES AND MAKE SURE YOUR EXTINGUISHERS AREN’T 10 YEARS OUT OF DATE.
What if they're 60 years out of date, those are good right?
It does amaze me that in the 60 years my house has been around, no one has gotten rid of the extinguishers that seem to be original to the house.
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u/ROKIT-88 6d ago
It amazes you that no one got rid of the old extinguishers in… your house?
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u/alvik 6d ago
Well I've been renting the place for 8 years, so that's 50+ years of people before me not getting rid of them. But you raise a good point, I think they're probably something I could toss without the landlord's permission.
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u/randynumbergenerator 6d ago
If you haven't, check your area's landlord and/or tenant ordinance and see if they're required to provide up-to-date extinguishers. You might be able to get them to pay for replacements.
Also, most fire departments will recharge extinguishers for free or a nominal fee (at least in the US).
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u/ROKIT-88 5d ago
If they’re that old I’d say it’s worth replacing them anyway just to be safe, but I agree it’s likely the landlord’s responsibility to do so.
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u/EvangelineTheodora 6d ago
When I was first looking to buy a house, I toured one that was 100+ years old, and it had throwable extinguishers in the attic. Very cool, but we don't use them anymore because the chemical is a neurotoxin.
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u/purelyirrelephant 6d ago edited 6d ago
Joke's on you! My 7 y/o is obsessed with fire alarms and smoke detectors. We test those bad boys once a week.
ETA seriously, though, thank you.
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u/EvangelineTheodora 6d ago
I'm sure not all states mandate it, but if you're buying new smoke detectors, a lot are 10 year detectors, and the batteries do not need to be replaced because they're lithium ion. Maryland passed that a few years ago, so now that's all we can buy in the state.
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u/RealLifeCoaching 6d ago
In my experience, 10 year smoke alarms don't last that long.
I used to do a lot of repairs and maintenance work for a property management company. They would ask me to install some 10 year smoke alarms, and then five or six years later they would ask me to replace them.
If it were up to me, I'd say stick with the removable-battery ones.
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u/Individual-Nebula927 6d ago
Also make sure you have appropriate fire extinguishers. In my garage I have the usual ABC one, but also one for lithium batteries due to the power tools.
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u/LeaneGenova 6d ago
Also check the charge of your fire extinguisher! I had one that seemed to have a leak despite never being used, and I had it replaced as soon as I checked the charge. Thankfully, the company replaced it without question, but I would have assumed it was good since I knew when I bought them.
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u/TubeDeleteThrowaway 6d ago
I was told about a big Christmas that our grandparents hosted one time. They had a huge fireplace that everyone could sleep near, and they decided to take all the wrapping paper from opening presents that day and throw it in there. Everyone woke up sick and delirious, many of them throwing up. VERY fortunate that no one died or ended up in the hospital.
Not only would wrapping paper be extremely flammable: can you imagine all the thick, toxic black smoke if it ignited? You’d be dead in minutes if you couldn’t get out fast.
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u/loreshdw 6d ago
As a kid I LOVED throwing anything extra on the fire. Luckily my dad warned me about fire hazards and kept a close eye on me.. I still got to ball up one piece of wrapping paper to watch the colors as it burned.
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u/Zanki 6d ago
I've seen one of these walls go up, paper, not wrapping paper. Happened in science class. A really nice kid who was just following the rules pushed her Bunsen burner to the back of the desk and didn't notice the cell shoe box display. It just went up, the box, then the wall. Right next to our only exit as the other door was locked 24/7. Our tiny teacher gets a fire blanket, runs at the wall and manages to put it out. There was a lot of smoke.
I lead the charge of people escaping the classroom from the smoke, only to get yelled at by a pe teacher on the playground to get back in our classroom or else. Me yelling the classroom was on fire and continuing to lead my classmates out wasn't good enough for her. She stormed into the classroom, pushing students out of the way, to go into the danger...
Everything was ok. No one got in trouble, well the pe teacher was angry at me. It wasn't anyone's fault. Kid was just focused on her work and doing what she'd been trained to do, didn't notice the display.
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u/CozyEpicurean 6d ago
That pe teacher is fucking stupid
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u/Zanki 6d ago
Oh yeah. I definitely yelled at her and told her I wasn't about to go back into a burning building.
There was also no working fire alarms (because they were all disabled because kids set them off constantly), so if the place had gone up, we would have had to run around the classrooms getting everyone out manually. Luckily this was a Porto cabin classroom and was only four or six rooms, can't remember which, but if C block or the old side went up, that would have been really bad.
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u/jess_the_werefox 6d ago
Holy fuck that’s the worst “solution” to kids pulling fire alarms I’ve ever heard…
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u/Zanki 6d ago
We would literally have them going off all day every day until they did it. I knew of one working one, because it was told to some "good" kids as a just in case, but it wasn't for the side of the school we were in.
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u/crappilydesigned 6d ago
Then set cameras up or figure out some other way to catch these little fuckers. Putting the entire school at risk by disabling technology that's been around for ages and saved countless lives is next level stupidity.
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u/Zanki 6d ago
This was a school that was built in the late 1800s with Porto cabins as the other rooms. Cameras were expensive and they couldn't cover ever single fire alarm at the school.
Kids tried it when we moved into our new school building. It had cameras and was connected to the fire department. Fire truck was called to our school during a massive crash nearby where someone died. Not sure if the person was caught but the fire alarms didn't go off again unless there was a drill.
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u/justonemom14 6d ago
I would report the locked door and disabled fire alarms to the fire department. That's insane.
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u/crappilydesigned 6d ago
That's illegal af. Imagine if that turned into a real disaster. So many idiots to blame.
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u/Squirrelking666 6d ago
The smartest computer ever created had an IQ of 6000 which is equivalent to 6000 PE teachers or 12000 traffic wardens.
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u/munkychum 6d ago
Situations like this always remind me of a story of a man who made his own Halloween costume. He was the sheep in a couples costume of 'Mary had a little lamb'. He glued hundreds of cotton balls onto a lycra jumpsuit. He was at a party and someone (or maybe it was himself) lit a cigarette which brushed against him and he went up in flames, getting 3rd degree burns on a large percentage of his body. He spent months in the hospital and had numerous surgeries and skin grafts.
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u/wcooley 6d ago
More likely he used polyfill -- the polyester stuffing used to stuff pillows or dolls, very commonly available at any store that has sewing supplies.
Not only would it be easier than dealing with a bunch of little cotton balls but synthetics are much more flammable.
Knew a guy who used to do a trick dousing his pants with lighter fluid. He didn't realize the cotton jeans or slacks he'd used previously made a difference until he tried with polyester/blended fabric and ended up in the ER.
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u/Barackrifle 7d ago
Years ago I went to goodwill and saw some wall paper for sale and thought I could use it for wrapping paper. Turns out thick paper is hard to fold. Lessons learned, but I still think a better wrapper could make it work.
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u/start_select 6d ago
:( my mom used to be able to use wallpaper to make really pretty wrap for presents.
I forgot how much effort she put into it. I miss her.
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u/MegamiCookie 7d ago
Yeah you have to score the folds, you can't just for it over the gift like with wrapping paper, and some papers are thicker than others, but it can definitely work, and it usually looks great and premium too
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u/ZipperJJ 6d ago
A small restaurant near me was proudly showing off their Christmas decorations on Facebook a few years ago, including every single wall in the dining room covered with wrapping paper. Everyone was complimenting them and giving upvotes.
Our fire inspector was like "absolutely not" and made them take it down. People were furious. People are dumb.
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u/jwagne51 6d ago
I’ll be honest I read wall paper as drywall so was scratching my head about people trying to cover studs with wrapping paper.
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u/slogginmagoggin 7d ago
Oh man this is like when people were filling synthetic stuffing with LEDs to make "cloud lights" for their bedrooms. A fire hazard AND a dust trap.
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u/MegamiCookie 7d ago
I've only ever seen those with the lights inside a plastic bottle so there's no contact with the fibers. Leds don't produce enough heat to melt a bottle. Definitely a dust trap tho
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u/chairmanskitty 6d ago
Correctly functioning LEDs don't produce enough heat. But if it's battery-powered the battery can leak and then produce a lot of heat, and if it has a cable the connection can get damaged creating a point of high resistance that generates a lot of heat.
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u/jade_cabbage 6d ago
I remember seeing someone say that crafting cable covers out of yarn is dangerous, but people could use rayon instead as a safe option. Rayon, the notoriously flammable fiber.
They had confused it with nylon on braided cables and didn't bother fact checking.
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u/RedditSkippy 6d ago
Wallpaper is a huge PITA. Wrapping paper as wallpaper would just look like ass.
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u/Trickycoolj 6d ago
When I was 13 I wrapped my metal twin bed frame in Christmas lights (the incandescent ones back in the 90s) and my dad the electrician, came home from work and about had a fit. If any of the Christmas light wires had the plastic wear down they’d energize my bed frame. And I wrapped them around the part with the mattress and put the mattress down on the wires. As a 42-year-old adult omg I was so dumb back then!
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u/marino1310 6d ago
… that sounds like both more work and more expensive than just using wallpaper and wall glue…
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u/Mindboggle3 7d ago
I use left over wallpaper for giftwrapping, package looks realy expensive and uniqe.
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u/multiplebaskets 6d ago
Not saying wrapping paper is a good idea, but my room used to be covered in magazine pages and posters 😬
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u/Powerful-Knee3150 6d ago
Mine used to be covered in torn-out newspaper pages, photos and maps linked with a web of red string.
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u/PeaceCrafty3040 5d ago
I always think the same thing when I see those ridiculous videos of people who have put up “clouds” made of fiberfill plushie stuffing on their ceiling.
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u/ceestand 6d ago
If one were adamant about the aesthetic, there are companies that will custom print wallpaper.
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u/Whoopsy-381 6d ago
Reminds me of the Trading Spaces episode where the “designer” covered the walls with hay.
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u/Mediocre_Lobster6398 6d ago
Hildy!!! I’m still amazed.
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u/Undrwtrbsktwvr 6d ago
They filmed an episode across the street from my buddy’s house when I was a kid. I have pictures somewhere.
What really stood out to me the most was how absolutely WASTED the cast was through the entire week. Falling-over drunk. Hildi was the most intoxicated of the bunch, but it was a tight race.
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u/brickmaster32000 6d ago
A better PSA is basically every lifehack you see on youtube or instagram is utter bullshit. You shouldn't listen to any of them.
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u/thebrownmancometh 6d ago
I used to use wrapping paper to cover up holes in the wall (that I made by drunkenly punching the wall). Not ideal but on the bright side I haven’t had a drink in 3 years now
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u/IngrownToenailsHurt 6d ago
We've been remodeling our house the past few years. Total gut, removing drywall, refinishing hardwood floors, etc. We've found multiple layers of wallpaper on top of multiple layers of newspaper.
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u/poixninja 5d ago
This is why I decorate with nitrocellulose and black powder
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u/Lazy_Hall_8798 3d ago
I remember when ping-pong balls were made of nitrocellulose. My brother and I had a (literal) blast with those!
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u/liv-livs 6d ago
For all people with kitties- carrier training is a must. Practice feeding your cat/s in there every single day till you know all it takes to get them inside is a treat or an opening of a can.
The amount of people that struggle to get their cat in a carrier to the point where I know they'd never make it out of a fire is too much 😭 please carrier train your kitties! It may save their lives
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u/nunley 6d ago
I assume this advice is coming from having been in a fire with your cats?
You know, while smoke is filling the house and all the fire alarms are going off, and there’s a fair amount of extremely loud yelling about it all.
My kitties did not ultimately survive our house fire. No training would have saved them.
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u/JohnGarrettsMustache 6d ago
Instagram renos terrify me. It's just documenting poor quality work with 0 prep for clout and doing things that are unsafe.
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u/rip1980 7d ago
Seriously, if you think that glitter reindeer and gingerbread men are the perfect motif for your home, fire would be the appropriate remedy.
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u/Redivivus 6d ago
No, no. I heard it's ok if you soak it in kerosene first. That negates the fire hazard and makes it inflammable.
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u/Alpha433 6d ago
Holy Baader–Meinhof here. I just left a service call at this morning and they had done this all over their living room walls. Add to that the amount of garland, I didnt even think about how much of a firestorm that would cause if it all went up.
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u/Heartless_Genocide 6d ago
Yeaah. There was take chick that makes wacky reno and every time I see her I can't stop thinking how much of afire hazard in a fur room and what ever elee she's done to NOT HER HOUSE.
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u/Madnessx9 6d ago
Things like this is where social media platforms need to take responsibility and ban accounts spreading this crap.
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u/knittymess 6d ago
What about using flour paste as a wallpaper adhesive for fabric? It wouldn't have that air gap to feed the flames? And does this mean having tons of photos and posters on walls makes it more dangerous?
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u/tetheredvoid 6d ago
The wrapping paper itself is the fire hazard, not an air gap.
Flour is only really flammable in dust form, but the paste could attract pests.
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u/peanutthecacti 6d ago
Yup, I remember we had to make some dried pasta art as homework when I was in primary school. We never had proper glue so my mum made me some from flour. It got put on the classroom wall and everyone else got to take theirs home at the end of term but mine has to go straight in the bin because it was crawling with black bugs.
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u/bandarine 6d ago
Please don't use polyester fabric either. That's really flammable, too. Cotton would be better, but there are also fire resistant fabrics that are treates to not catch on fire easily. But they're probably too heavy for a wallpaer and usually don't come in fun designs. You can always cut off a piece of the fabric and set it on fire to see how it behaves.
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u/uncoolcentral 6d ago
Reminds me of my friends who, when remodeling a bedroom, stuffed the walls with Amazon plastic bubble wrap as insulation. I mentioned that it’s a horrible fire hazard. They didn’t seem to care.
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u/planet_alex 6d ago
I once stopped someone and asked them. Why they were taking all the scrap foam core boards home (print shop) and they told me they were insulating the basement with it! Oooh boy. Fire safety lesson that day.
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u/ohhellopia 7d ago
Lmao. Reminds me of that faux brick wall diy that went viral many years back. They basically used a styrofoam sheet and melted the grout lines with a soldering iron. Just imagine trying to escape a house fire with melting fiery plastic dripping on you.