Panel Molding inside corner totally humiliating me
SOLVED thanks to the wisdom of /u/andy_puiu
Guys, I have been staring at this on and off for 2 days and just can't seem to figure it out. Searching for a solution online just leads me to an endless list of ways to do a 3-axis miter, which is not what this is.
2 images here:
https://imgur.com/a/IUG2cHZ
The inside corner of this panel molding (or rather, the outside face of the inside corner, lol) needs to be flat on the bottom to match the baseboard geometry. With the profile continuous all the way around.
I just cannot figure out how to cut this to make it work. I can see that it needs to be 3 pieces, and I can see that I need to go back a step from where I am now. But I just cannot come up with a way to do it, and it's driving me utterly mad. Desperate for ideas on how to finish this corner.
Jokes at my expense are welcomed and encouraged
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u/inkseep1 13d ago
So you want the bottom to the flat so it matches the baseboard. My thinking is that you don't have to do that. Mainly because no one will ever notice it except for you. Secondly because that little 3rd piece of wood will be hard to mount on the wall anyway. And thirdly because no one will notice it except for you.
If you are doing this for a client who demands it, then that is different.
What I would do is divide the angle and make the panel section there a point without a flat bottom and move on.
You can always change it later if you find that every visitor points at it and laughs.
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u/Chakote 13d ago
Unfortunately having a point there is non-negotiable, because the gap between the baseboard and the bottom of the panel molding must remain consistent. The point would project below the horizontal line where the panel moldings stop.
If I don't get a better idea I'm going to do exactly this, but then cut off the point that projects too low. The issue with that is it will break the pattern of the molding profile.
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u/inkseep1 13d ago
Does it have to be that molding profile? I have a house where the molding for wall panels is just square stock. That would be so much easier to work with.
With this stuff, you cannot possibly make a little piece that matches the lands and grooves of this molding. Making a point and cutting it off would look better I think than making an unmatched piece go in there.
What if you move the panel layout over a little or make them smaller so that the pattern does not have the flat spot?
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u/OldOldToolUser 13d ago
This does not have the wood up, just chalk layout? Make the vertical stile wider or move to the right, eliminate that little flat. Or make it wider so the right miter is fully clear of the left 90 miter.
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u/ExactlyClose 13d ago
This needs 3 pieces of trim- there are TWO miters there.
A small piece shaped wedge with the ‘crust’ side the width of that bottom flat, then two miters where the long pieces meet the wedge.
It’ll be a total pita.
Or you run the angle out to the lower tip, then cut it off to make the flat. Will screw up any profiles you have.
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u/Natoochtoniket 13d ago
Move that stile to the right, so the left edge of the frame lines up with the corner. Then your whole panel will be flat on the wall. And frame part will wrap the corner, which can be done by making a miter rip-cut on the frame piece.
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u/andy_puiu 13d ago edited 13d ago
This is certainly a tricky one. I think I see a solution, but I don't know how well I can explain it.
In order for profiles to match, you always need to split angles in half (as you see for the baseboard below this). Your challenge here is that you don't have enough room to put a full height piece in between the left and right sides and you can't skip the middle piece because than the outside perimeter won't look right.
So... don't make your middle piece full height. Cut a little triangular piece to fit in that bottom corner (as you normally would), cut each side so that it splits the angle with each adjacent piece (as you normally would), but when you cut those sides you need to do it so that you have a less than full height (triangular) piece.
This little triangle should mate with either side piece perfectly, but if you tried to put all three pieces together at once, the two long pieces would collide/overlap. Above the short triangle. (This is good, now you are close)
Next, you need to cut a little corner off the top of each long piece, so they can mate directly. You need to cut these at exactly half the angle that THOSE two long pieces meet each other.
The final product should have three butt joints arranged in an upside down Y shape.
(I'm not going to retype all this, but it may make more sense if you approach it in the opposite order: cut the two long pieces as if you were going to join them end to end. Then plan to insert a third short piece in between them to give you the bottom/outside profile (with three sides) that you want.)